Worst WoW Elitists?

[Lord Revan]

Btw I won't name any names, but has anyone ran in this kind players.

We used to have this hunter in our guild, who had pretty decent gear, but a)insisted that we'd go to instances we're there drops he wanted and he wouldn't go anywhere else b)had so bad DPS that both me (a holy(aka healer) Pally) and our guild Main Tank (a protection warrior) could out dps him while doing our normal duties (meaning we didn't even try to out dps him) c) had no control over his pet and/or traps.

[Molyneux]

Btw I won't name any names, but has anyone ran in this kind players.

We used to have this hunter in our guild, who had pretty decent gear, but a)insisted that we'd go to instances we're there drops he wanted and he wouldn't go anywhere else b)had so bad DPS that both me (a holy(aka healer) Pally) and our guild Main Tank (a protection warrior) could out dps him while doing our normal duties (meaning we didn't even try to out dps him) c) had no control over his pet and/or traps.

Old gaming saying: "When the healer is out-DPSing the DD, get out of the instance."

...well, maybe it's not that old. But it is true!

[Ghost Rider]

Btw I won't name any names, but has anyone ran in this kind players.

We used to have this hunter in our guild, who had pretty decent gear, but a)insisted that we'd go to instances we're there drops he wanted and he wouldn't go anywhere else b)had so bad DPS that both me (a holy(aka healer) Pally) and our guild Main Tank (a protection warrior) could out dps him while doing our normal duties (meaning we didn't even try to out dps him) c) had no control over his pet and/or traps.

Ahhhhh, a true huntard.

I love kicking them out right at the looting stage.

[Lord Revan]

Btw I won't name any names, but has anyone ran in this kind players.

We used to have this hunter in our guild, who had pretty decent gear, but a)insisted that we'd go to instances we're there drops he wanted and he wouldn't go anywhere else b)had so bad DPS that both me (a holy(aka healer) Pally) and our guild Main Tank (a protection warrior) could out dps him while doing our normal duties (meaning we didn't even try to out dps him) c) had no control over his pet and/or traps.

Old gaming saying: "When the healer is out-DPSing the DD, get out of the instance."

...well, maybe it's not that old. But it is true!

or better "get a new Damage Dealer"

[PainRack]

Btw I won't name any names, but has anyone ran in this kind players.

We used to have this hunter in our guild, who had pretty decent gear, but a)insisted that we'd go to instances we're there drops he wanted and he wouldn't go anywhere else b)had so bad DPS that both me (a holy(aka healer) Pally) and our guild Main Tank (a protection warrior) could out dps him while doing our normal duties (meaning we didn't even try to out dps him) c) had no control over his pet and/or traps.

I had my healer quit right after the first boss of RFD< because it didn't drop the armour he wanted, does that count? His entire purpose in raiding that instance was to farm that item, didn't get it, quit and go again..
And as a healer, he virtually never healed us in combat, the only time he did so was for that specific boss fight.

Luckily, we had an OT paladin who picked up the slack and the 4 of us shortcut our way to the boss. Almost got wiped a couple of times but survived by pure sheer luck

When I related that incident to my friend, his reply was "Aren't you the one who's supposed to quit? You only want that plate armour..."

I don't know whether this count as elitist or not, but here goes. I'm a newb at WOW, I try to compensate for it as much as possible by reading up on instances or quests and the like. I'm not asking the veterans to slow down to match my pace(although that would be nice), but it would be nice when I ask a question or ask for feedback to improve my tanking, no snide remarks are inserted. Yes, I'm asking for your advice, and yes, you giving it for free, but please, no scarasm or disdain.

[Lord Revan]

Did the Healer act like he was on vacation apart from that one boss fight?

and IMHO dropping out after you get or don't get a single item especially early in an instance is elitism (unless you specifically came for that item (like lvl 70s helping a lowbie alt get a quest item)) as it basically assumes the rest of the party came there for the sole purpose of getting you what you want (and this rarely is the case with parties where everyone is more or less the same level).

EDIT:the forums and guilds are normally the best to get advice as people there don't normally act like total morons

[Kuja]

Btw I won't name any names, but has anyone ran in this kind players.

We used to have this hunter in our guild, who had pretty decent gear, but a)insisted that we'd go to instances we're there drops he wanted and he wouldn't go anywhere else b)had so bad DPS that both me (a holy(aka healer) Pally) and our guild Main Tank (a protection warrior) could out dps him while doing our normal duties (meaning we didn't even try to out dps him) c) had no control over his pet and/or traps.

He needs to reroll rogue.

I've run into quite a few hunters that I've learned to hate over time, the fact that they're the most-played class in all of WoW ensures that. Hunters who can't control their pets, can't control their traps, can't control their shot rotation, go melee, etc. can fuck an instance group completely. It's a class that supercicially looks easy to play - you send in the pet and start mashing the trigger. But when more is required, like aggro or crowd control, that's the true test of a hunter, and a lot of them fail it. Even somthing as simple as turning off your pet's taunt before an instance run.

I had my healer quit right after the first boss of RFD< because it didn't drop the armour he wanted, does that count? His entire purpose in raiding that instance was to farm that item, didn't get it, quit and go again..

Selfish scum like that should never be grouped with. Ever.

[Quadlok]

and then there's the mages who pull with Frostbolt (or if fire Pyroblast) and expect me to get aggro the moment I make my first swing at the target (even if said swing misses)

Heh, I do that on my Mage, but only because he's still only 37 (anyone else notice the amazing disparity of 'elite' mobs from early/mid game to late game?) and because I feel I've earned it from all the times DPSers pull that sort of shit on me when I'm tanking Slabs or another actually half difficult instance.

I'm surprised nobody has brought up twinks yet. Honestly, just because you had a thousand gold to blow on rockin enchants and blues/purples for your alt doesn't mean you can play worth shit. I've sunk all of 10g, mostly on engineering mats, into my 19 hunter, who only has the pvp blues, and I can consistently get top 3 (often first) in WSG, all while, you know, actually protecting the flag/flag carrier, even though almost everyone else in there theoretically has me badly outclassed.

[Lord Revan]

well something that most people don't seem to understand (including Arthura who was/is the Hunter I talked about) is that no matter how good your gear is you still need skill (this comes more apperent in longer fights), since due to the game mechanics there's always the chance that a blow might miss or spell get resisted and so on.

[GuppyShark]

I'm surprised nobody has brought up twinks yet.

What I find weirdest about this thread is nobody has complained about the actual WoW 'elitists' (you suck if you don't spend half your week farming for mats and grinding your rep up to Exalted with everyone). Just bad players.

[haas mark]

I'm surprised nobody has brought up twinks yet.

What I find weirdest about this thread is nobody has complained about the actual WoW 'elitists' (you suck if you don't spend half your week farming for mats and grinding your rep up to Exalted with everyone). Just bad players.

Funny, that, yes.

As far as twinks go, the level 10-19 ones are worse. I got told to leave a battleground because I went into a bg with my (at the time) lv10 warrior and didn't have 3k hp. *shrugs*

EDIT- on the plus side, I had some people defend me when I went into Alterac Valley the first time the other day, when I was level 51. They were mad because Horde had more warlocks, and Horde wasn't getting feared enough. Well, if they, you know, helped out the clothies a little bit, maybe the clothies could fear a little more...

[haas mark]

Umm ... that's because they can't use Healthstones or Health/Mana pots while in bear form (or cat form), so it would actually cause a wipe if they had to get to the point where they shifted out of Bear form, wearing only +Stamina leather gear, hardly any agility so no dodge, and promptly get killed.

Unaware of this, but the problem being that they don't even call for a heal half the time. Yes, there are idiots to that degree on Runetotem. I wouldn't have a problem with them if they didn't act like morons.

Also I take issue with this;

My personal bane are feral druids. Anytime one of them has to tank, I tend to leave the group early on. I say I need mana, I get in responce, "Life tap!" or "Well, we'd slow down if you were a mage." Life tap and dark pact are not the solution to all a warlock's mana problems, but feral druids do not seem to understand this.

If you, as an Affliction Warlock are not finishing the trash mob pulls at around 80% + health and mana, you are doing something wrong. I don't know how else to phrase it, there is a difference in boss fights I agree, but on trash, I can't understand how you're not siting on 80%+ on either health or mana.

I usually am the last to die in a wipe, until everyone ditches me on the skull mark and goes after x instead, actually. Regardless of it being a boss fight. It's rare I pull aggro unless I'm the one pulling with Siphon Life/Curse of Agony/etc., except on a mob, and I usually just dot up the tank's or tanks' targets. Occasionally, though, they'll switch targets on me and I die because of that idiocy, but that's normally not a problem. Also rare is it that I finish an instance with less than 75% durability.

Surely you've spec'd 2/2 in Improved Drain Soul right? You know you get 14% of your mana back by using Drain Soul just as the mob dies right? Surely you also know that Drain Soul is not a DPS spell, and that using Rank 1 Drain Soul (55 mana) gives the same results as using whatever the highest rank of Drain Soul you have, right?

Learn something new every day, but yes to answer the spec question. Granted this can pose an inventory problem at times, because I forget very easily this also creates soul shards in the midst of battle.

Seriously, I've played pretty much every class there is (to at least level 40, and have a 70 Warlock), you should always be tapping your foot waiting for the other mana users if you're Affliction. Simple as that.

Generally, I am, but there are times when I've had idiot healers, too, and have life tapped/dark pacted myself until I can't anymore. And still have heard, "Well, just life tap!" Of course, if I'm getting free waters, I'm never opposed to taking the mana break, myself.

[Skgoa]

The most annoying elitists are those who think they get to decide what hybrids can and can not roll on. Its extremely stupid because I not only do not actually get more or better gear, but since I have to fill three roles I have to run every instance three times the amount of runs every non-hybrid has to do.

[Ghost Rider]

The most annoying elitists are those who think they get to decide what hybrids can and can not roll on. Its extremely stupid because I not only do not actually get more or better gear, but since I have to fill three roles I have to run every instance three times the amount of runs every non-hybrid has to do.

Yeah, but there is a point where you rolling on one tree equipment over a character who only has one role. Had enough problems telling Druids to shove it when they see some leather a rogue needs. If you're Feral, go ahead. If you're Balance or Resto, it goes to the rogue first.

For me, I want the hybrid to figure out what they are sticking to, not deciding what flavor they want to be.

[GuppyShark]

The most annoying elitists are those who think they get to decide what hybrids can and can not roll on. Its extremely stupid because I not only do not actually get more or better gear, but since I have to fill three roles I have to run every instance three times the amount of runs every non-hybrid has to do.

If you roll on every piece of gear you can use you will walk out of the instance with more gear than those who only have one role. Basic probability.

[Skgoa]

On Gorgonnash(DE) its customary to get one "need" per run. I allways thought it was the same on all servers. Even if every boss drops something I want, I simply can't get more than one of them if anyone else wants them. In the case that no one else wants it no one has a problem with me getting the item.
And its not like I roll on everything I CAN use either, I just roll on Items that increase my usefullness to the group. (as a Shaman that means I need both damage and healing clothes and lets not forget resistances...)

I have grouped with Huntarz who rolled on absolutely everything and I don't want to say that its good to do that. But I am equally as angry with people who say "you don't get meele items, you are a healer!" "you don't get heal items, you are an 'offensive hybrid'!" etc. Note that those allways come from people who want to have the item that they say I can't have...

[Skgoa]

Oh, just noticed that:

For me, I want the hybrid to figure out what they are sticking to, not deciding what flavor they want to be.

As a hybrid I often wish I could. But its just not possible - at least for a Shaman.

[Lord Revan]

Hybrids can be a pain for drops sometimes (my main is a pally) especially on the higher levels, but it's best to pick a build and roll for items mainly for that (my main (I have 2 pallies) is holy so I roll mainly on healer items), but if there's a nice items for other uses and no-one else truly needs it you shouldn't let it be sharded if you want it.

some people just don't seem to get that Hybrid means you'll be a mix, true that via talents builds hybrids become better in some areas at cost of the others but are still capable of those if need be (my elemental shaman can heal well enough to be an off healer).

oh and it's possible to stick to a role with a hybrid, in 99% of the runs I've done my paladin has been a healer and in the latest runs my shaman has been mainly a offensive caster, that said I've had to do other roles as well but it's really not that hard (the paladin in question is level 70 and a
shaman level 61 though)

EDIT: look at these 2 hybrids a pally, a shaman and tell me if you think those aren't role specific builds.

[Ghost Rider]

Oh, just noticed that:

For me, I want the hybrid to figure out what they are sticking to, not deciding what flavor they want to be.

As a hybrid I often wish I could. But its just not possible - at least for a Shaman.

Don't bullshit me. Unless you are some pre-60. A shaman has clear fucking choices.

You are either a spellcaster or a fucking Melee. And if you're spell you're either a main healer or an off healer/offensive.

Your posts made me literally think you not only group with idiots, but you're just fucking bitching because someone doesn't want to support you half assed build.

[Crown]

Surely you've spec'd 2/2 in Improved Drain Soul right? You know you get 14% of your mana back by using Drain Soul just as the mob dies right? Surely you also know that Drain Soul is not a DPS spell, and that using Rank 1 Drain Soul (55 mana) gives the same results as using whatever the highest rank of Drain Soul you have, right?

Learn something new every day, but yes to answer the spec question. Granted this can pose an inventory problem at times, because I forget very easily this also creates soul shards in the midst of battle.

Pfft. Kids these days. I was rolling a Lock before soulshard bags, back in the bleak old days of being a Warlock. There will be a few options for addons, but Necrosis can handle excess shards for you easily; it just automatically deletes them when you have as much as you need (you set the number). And you can save a few buttons on you interface if you get it; Healthstone/Soul Stone/Firestone (lol)/Spellstone, so it's a nice addon you can customise (rather easily) the rest of it so you don't have the whole package working if you don't want it to.

But seriously; you just have to learn your groups DPS style on trash. As an Affliction Lock don't be too concerned with getting insane DPS on trash, it won't happen, you're DoT's won't run their course, you're there to pwn the boss fight ( ). Learn what you need to do to be affective and helpful on trash, but don't worry about doing 'too much'.


EDIT :: By the way, does this make me a 'WoW Elitist'?

[D.Turtle]

If you want to be effective as a hybrid you have to choose one spec on which to focus (as a Shaman either melee, caster, oder healer).

When you go into instance you get to roll on stuff that helps the role you are playing at that time (if you are the healer, you get to roll on healer stuff, etc). If nobody needs something, but you can use it for one of the other two specs, then you get to roll on it. Quite simple really.

People who think they can fulfill several roles at once are delusional. WoW is simply not built in a way to allow that (though 2.3 might change that a tiny little bit for Shamans), because it is so item dependent. Yes, as a hybrid you can jump in and help in an emergency (by casting a few heals or doing a little damage), but to equip/talent yourself in way that supports multiple specs will result in you being useless at all of them.

As a hybrid I often wish I could. But its just not possible - at least for a Shaman.

If you want to heal as a shaman you need to put >45-50 points in the Restoration Tree (most have 0/5/56). If you want to DPS you have to have at least 40/41 point in the respective Tree. Anything less means you can't fulfill the role you are supposed to play. If you put that many points in one tree, you can't get deep enough in any other tree to be effective (you need the -1 second cast time as an elemental, dual wield as a melee, and Earth Shield as a healer).

[Stormin]

The worst are the ones that come to my game, buy all the plat and think they should win fights just because they have the best gear and outnumber the people in most fights 3 to 1 then whine and quit when they get spanked.
Sadly its an ever increasing trend lately with Warhammer just around the corner so many "elite" bads rolling here and rage quitting.

[The Yosemite Bear]

well...

I was recalling one time I was waiting for someone to show up and raid the Difias mines, and someone pinged me on local defense if I had seen the hoard group spotted in the area. I responded (yeah my rogue is flirting with them, as they just pulled a bunch of Chen's baddies off my ass)

The rest of Westvale chat wanted to know why I was emoting hoard.

[PainRack]

Did the Healer act like he was on vacation apart from that one boss fight?

Look at it this way, we only saw him cast a spell once, at no time was his mana bar used. Granted, RFD is a simple dungeon to play healer wise and with a charging paladin, you don't really need a dedicated healer.

EDIT:the forums and guilds are normally the best to get advice as people there don't normally act like total morons

Well, unless my guildmate is running a dungeon with me, I can't very well ask for feedback on my tanking from total strangers.

[Stormin]

well...

I was recalling one time I was waiting for someone to show up and raid the Difias mines, and someone pinged me on local defense if I had seen the hoard group spotted in the area. I responded (yeah my rogue is flirting with them, as they just pulled a bunch of Chen's baddies off my ass)

The rest of Westvale chat wanted to know why I was emoting hoard.

Try being in a 1v1, having a realm mate jump in to steal your kill and you pull off and let the leech die. Bet you get the same response I do