Gundam 00: The Stupid, It Burns

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2007-10-14 09:33pm

Sidewinder wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:So what do you guys think about the Mary Reed idea?
I'd love to see a female mecha pilot who does NOT fall in love with some loser and then suddenly transform from a badass to the damsel in distress.

Uh, Emma Sheen?

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2007-10-14 09:35pm

VF5SS wrote:
Sidewinder wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:So what do you guys think about the Mary Reed idea?
I'd love to see a female mecha pilot who does NOT fall in love with some loser and then suddenly transform from a badass to the damsel in distress.
Uh, Emma Sheen?

Who's Emma Sheen?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2007-10-14 09:38pm

VF5SS wrote:
Sidewinder wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:So what do you guys think about the Mary Reed idea?
I'd love to see a female mecha pilot who does NOT fall in love with some loser and then suddenly transform from a badass to the damsel in distress.
Uh, Emma Sheen?

yes, but was she originally introduced as an androgynus male, but was later determined to still be a woman. aor a reverse trap.

or acting just like Mary Reed originally did abord a pirate ship.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2007-10-14 09:42pm

Sidewinder wrote:
VF5SS wrote:
Sidewinder wrote: I'd love to see a female mecha pilot who does NOT fall in love with some loser and then suddenly transform from a badass to the damsel in distress.
Uh, Emma Sheen?
Who's Emma Sheen?

apparently someone from \zeta gundam

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-10-14 09:45pm

Emma was a damn fine character.

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2007-10-14 09:47pm

Never mind, I found out who Emma Sheen is on Wikipedia. However...

Emma is almost immediately pitted in a duel with former AEUG friend, Reccoa Londe, who defected to join Paptimus Scirocco on the side of the Titans. In the ensuing duel, Emma manages to stab Reccoa's Pallas Athene with Mk-II's beam sword, disabling it. After abandoning her heavily damaged mobile suit, to check on Reccoa, Yazan attacks yet again. This time, he fires on the ruined Pallas Athene, destroying it and killing Reccoa. Emma is caught in the explosion and fatally injured by a shrapnel. Emma would soon be retrieved by Kamille, but she soon dies in his arms.

That's it? She expresses concern for an enemy pilot's safety, and then dies in the arms of a damn kid? Man, the Japanese-- at least, Japanese men-- have a real hatred towards women warriors, don't they?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-10-14 09:55pm

First, that "damn kid" was Kamille Bidan, one of the best Gundam pilots in the AEUG.

Second, it plays out a lot better and more dramtically in the show than it reads in a Wikipedia character entry.

Third, everyone dies in Zeta.

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2007-10-14 10:01pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Third, everyone dies in Zeta.

I guess that's one reason NOT to watch 'Zeta Gundam'. (I like happy endings.)

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-10-14 10:03pm

Well that's a damn shame, because not only is Zeta the very pinnacle of the Gundam franchise--before and after--it also has one of the best unhappy endings...

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2007-10-14 10:05pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Well that's a damn shame, because not only is Zeta the very pinnacle of the Gundam franchise--before and after--it also has one of the best unhappy endings...

ZOOM!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-10-14 10:07pm

VF5SS wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Well that's a damn shame, because not only is Zeta the very pinnacle of the Gundam franchise--before and after--it also has one of the best unhappy endings...
ZOOM!

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2007-10-14 10:17pm

You know, I'd like to see Sidewinder actually watch something and stop masturbating to the Major from Ghost in the Shell.

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2007-10-14 10:24pm

VF5SS wrote:You know, I'd like to see Sidewinder actually watch something and stop masturbating to the Major from Ghost in the Shell.

I watched the 'Mobile Suit Gundam' movies, and I didn't like them-- no empathetic characters. I watched two of the 'Mobile Suit Gundam SEED' movies and 34 episodes of 'Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny'-- they had empathetic characters, but the stories were full of bullshit.

Then I watched 'Full Metal Panic'-- that was entertaining, and for once, the hero isn't a damn pacifist who hypocritically fights for peace.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2007-10-14 10:30pm

Well Gundam 00 is directed by the guy who did Full Metal Panic. Go watch it. Or get a BRIGHT SLAP!

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2007-10-14 10:32pm

lol

hey I'm working on a story where everyone dies, and somepeople die more than once...

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2007-10-14 10:43pm

VF5SS wrote:Well Gundam 00 is directed by the guy who did Full Metal Panic. Go watch it. Or get a BRIGHT SLAP!

According to Wikipedia, Mizushima Seiji directed 'Fullmetal Alchemist', NOT 'Full Metal Panic'. (I love Arakawa Hiromu's manga, but the anime series and the movie...)

Peptuck · Post by **Peptuck** » 2007-10-15 12:00am

VF5SS wrote:Well Gundam 00 is directed by the guy who did Full Metal Panic. Go watch it. Or get a BRIGHT SLAP!

I have heard absolutely nothing else about this new Gundam series, but I am SOLD.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2007-10-15 01:36am

Well the protagonists of Gundam 00 are only pacifistic in their ultimate goals.. of course their plan seems to be 'lets piss in everybody's coffee so much they put aside their differences to kick the shit out of us'.

Zor · Post by **Zor** » 2007-10-15 02:57am

I shall wait to see it before passing judgement on the show, but even so that dude with the glasses looks like Tedd from El Goonish Shive.

Zor

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » 2007-10-15 03:18am

Zor wrote:I shall wait to see it before passing judgement on the show, but even so that dude with the glasses looks like Tedd from El Goonish Shive.

Zor

You know, now that I think about it ... the purple hair, the glasses, looks like a girl. Holy shit.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2007-10-15 02:38pm

SylasGaunt wrote:Well the protagonists of Gundam 00 are only pacifistic in their ultimate goals.. of course their plan seems to be 'lets piss in everybody's coffee so much they put aside their differences to kick the shit out of us'.

That's what I'm getting. It's very Gundam Wing and the whole "WAR IS BAD!" shtick is getting a tad old. Probably as old as the "ZOMG!!1! IT'S A GUNDAAAAM!" thing. You just never shout that unless you want to die.

I shall give this a few more episodes. So far I'm thinking so-so, if only because, bar the calendar change and hilarious geo-politics, it's still reeking of every other series too much for me to care.

And really, that bishie scared me. I was also almost thinking "Wow, another Maj. Kusanag- HOLY SHIT IT'S A GUY?!".

Shinn Langley Soryu · Post by **Shinn Langley Soryu** » 2007-10-15 11:29pm

SylasGaunt wrote:Well the protagonists of Gundam 00 are only pacifistic in their ultimate goals.. of course their plan seems to be 'lets piss in everybody's coffee so much they put aside their differences to kick the shit out of us'.

That would make a nice twist ending, actually. Celestial Being pisses off everyone to the point that the Union, HRF, and AEU are more than willing to join together and smash those pesky bishounen into dust with superior numbers and firepower.

They'll get their peace, and they'll pay for it with their very lives. I hope that's how Gundam 00 ends.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2007-10-15 11:40pm

lol

I am now picturing Gundam 300!

Dark Hellion · Post by **Dark Hellion** » 2007-10-16 04:55am

I have been some what disappointed with the first two episodes, however the most disappointing first episodes I watched in a gundam series have turned out to be tied for my favorite (turn A). Starting bad seems to be a good thing for a gundam series of 50 episodes, because if you start good you become gundam seed destiny (I loved the first 7 episodes, I still don't know why I watched the other 43) or you become Gundam X and get canceled early (Gundam X is my other favorite).

All I hope for this series is that it doesn't do what gundam seed did. I watched from episode 30 of Seed all the way through destiny for one reason. Dearka deserved to get laid. If Kira can get some pussy, then Dearka definitely deserved it, that man macked on whatsherface harder than any gundam character has macked before, and not a moment of loving came. My god, even Judau gets 2 implied fuck buddies in the Kiddy series of gundam, why oh why can't we get one of the few deserving characters a little action.

Commander 598 · Post by **Commander 598** » 2007-10-16 12:14pm

I watched the 'Mobile Suit Gundam' movies, and I didn't like them-- no empathetic characters. I watched two of the 'Mobile Suit Gundam SEED' movies and 34 episodes of 'Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny'-- they had empathetic characters, but the stories were full of bullshit.

To be fair, First Gundam is older than most of Star Wars and SEED sucks. You have to physically make yourself look past horribly thought out mechanical designs, that have since been retconned, in MSG to watch it. Though, you should have found some empathetic characters there...

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