Lame characters from the EU

[Havok]

Dash Rendar. I hate him just for the name. Such an obvious try at Han Solo and falling WAY short.

[Pelranius]

KJA still takes the prize in my book. He's foisted us with Daala, Durron, Qwi Xux, Zekk and the rest of the lot. The only good thing he did was the stuff about the Daragon siblings and Naga Sadow.

[Lazarus]

The whole NJO Fondor debacle almost made me scream at the book. Jacen actually prevents Anakin from firing the weapon and destroying the YV fleet - which is about to kill untold billions - because of some fucked up logic which makes no sense whatsoever. Yes, of course, it's entirely logical that standing by while the Vong slaughter billions when you have it in your power to prevent them is 'the Jedi way'. 'Killing is wrong' is such a massive concentration of bullshit that I'm sure the Vong fleet could smell it all the way from Fondor - the Jedi have been shown time and again to justify killing if it is the only way to prevent a greater evil, and yet fucktard Jacen decides otherwise.

So no, it isn't Sal Solo's fault that the Hapan fleet got ass raped, it's Jacens. If Sal Solo had done nothing, Fondor would probably have been destroyed, and a much larger proportion of the Hapan fleet along with it. He really is the hero of the piece, because he did the best he could in that situation. Jacen is directly responsible for the Hapan losses, and should have been locked up for it, but apparently a vigilante retard Jedi wandering about the galaxy fucking things up is required under New Republic law.

[Dark Flame]

The whole NJO Fondor debacle almost made me scream at the book. Jacen actually prevents Anakin from firing the weapon and destroying the YV fleet - which is about to kill untold billions - because of some fucked up logic which makes no sense whatsoever. Yes, of course, it's entirely logical that standing by while the Vong slaughter billions when you have it in your power to prevent them is 'the Jedi way'. 'Killing is wrong' is such a massive concentration of bullshit that I'm sure the Vong fleet could smell it all the way from Fondor - the Jedi have been shown time and again to justify killing if it is the only way to prevent a greater evil, and yet fucktard Jacen decides otherwise.

Which fits in perfectly with his whole retarded "abandon the Force" shit, until of course, his idiocy endangers somebody that he knows and cares about. Great example of a Jedi.

Not to mention that this whole thing happened because of his fear of the dark side. So what happens? A few years later he tries to be a fucking Sith!

I'd have to also nominate everyone in Tales of the Bounty Hunters. It took every single one of them, and turned them into uber-hunters who have all these deep emotions and morals. Killed any liking I had towards any of them.

[Grandmaster Jogurt]

The only really two-dimensional warlord that I recall was Allston's Zsinj, who, upon discovering he still had a chance to recover Razor's Kiss, actually thought something along the lines of "I guess good things really do happen to good people," which struck me as so remarkable because he was the only villain up to that point who actually, explicitely thought he was doing the right thing.

Now to me, that actually represents the opposite of the usual two-dimensional, "I'm an evil warlord, watch me be evil, gosh aren't I evil, herr, herr, herr" rubbish.

I think he meant "two-dimensional" as opposed to one-dimensional villains whose only facet is that they are villains.

[Lord Pounder]

I kinda liked Warlord Zsinj. His interactions with General Melvar(sp?) mirrored General Solos interactions with Wedge. I think Allison done a good job redeeming him after Stackpole and Dave Wolferton(sp?) did such a half assed job.

[Thanas]

I think we do KJA a dis-service these days. Sure his books where craptacular but compared to the drivel that Travis and Denning are currently putting out Anderson is on the higher end of shite. Personally a Hutt with a Superlaser is genious compared to hive minded Jedi, Jacen "Sith Lite" Solo and rehashes of the prequal trilogy.

A sad day if KJA is no longer worst, but a step above the rest.

Denning - one of the bigger disappointments. What a letdown after Tatooine Ghost. KT on the other hand has been an idiot ever since the numbers debacle.

[Shadowtraveler]

Thracken Sal-Solo. How many times has he been imprisoned and yet come out on top?

[Crazedwraith]

So no, it isn't Sal Solo's fault that the Hapan fleet got ass raped,

Yes it fucking is. He fired the shot. He's directly responsible. Jacen is indirectly responsible in that he allowed Sal-Solo to take the shot. And that is all.

it's Jacens. If Sal Solo had done nothing, Fondor would probably have been destroyed, and a much larger proportion of the Hapan fleet along with it. He really is the hero of the piece, because he did the best he could in that situation. Jacen is directly responsible for the Hapan losses, and should have been locked up for it, but apparently a vigilante retard Jedi wandering about the galaxy fucking things up is required under New Republic law.

So what crime has Jacen committed? He prevented a civillian from using a weapon of mass destruction. That's not a crime. Would you want in the real world some random techican who'd activated a nuclear silo to be allowed to fire off nukes on nothing but his own authority?

[TC Pilot]

The Battle of Fondor should have been a collosal victory, perhaps the begining of the end of the Yuuzhan Vong invasion.

Yes, it is Sal-Solo's fault for firing Centerpoint and he was regarded as a hero for it, as he should have been.

Jacen deserves nothing but scorn and mockery for his effort to pollute Anakin with his moronic thought process. This is a person who apparently values the lives of a billion war criminals and murderers over those of a trillion innocent civilians. There should be absolutely no question that Sal-Solo was entirely in the right, and Jacen as wrong as one can be.

[Crazedwraith]

The Battle of Fondor should have been a collosal victory, perhaps the begining of the end of the Yuuzhan Vong invasion.

Yes, it is Sal-Solo's fault for firing Centerpoint and he was regarded as a hero for it, as he should have been.

Yes, because killing 3/4 of a friendly fleet to kill half the enemy is such a good thing to do.

[TC Pilot]

There are no precise numbers to compare Hapan and Yuuzhan Vong losses, only that the Yuuzhan Vong likely lost more ships.

Of course, if Jacen hadn't meddled, none of the Hapan fleet would have been lost.

[Crazedwraith]

There are no precise numbers to compare Hapan and Yuuzhan Vong losses, only that the Yuuzhan Vong likely lost more ships.

Of course, if Jacen hadn't meddled, none of the Hapan fleet would have been lost.

Maybe, maybe not. Accurate assessment of his own abilities wasn't exactly Anakin's strong point.

[Dark Flame]

So what crime has Jacen committed? He prevented a civillian from using a weapon of mass destruction. That's not a crime. Would you want in the real world some random techican who'd activated a nuclear silo to be allowed to fire off nukes on nothing but his own authority?

I don't know about committing a crime, but I certainly wouldn't put Anakin Solo in the same class as a regular civilian. Certainly his technical, military, and Force abilities make him a better person to control a WMD than the Average Corellian Joe.

I haven't read the Corellian Trilogy or wherever Centerpoint is used as a weapon, but isn't it Anakin the person that re-enabled it? He shouldn't be considered a "random technician." If a "random technician" had enabled a weapon and it had molded itself to him, then he should certainly take the shot in that situation.

[TC Pilot]

It has something to do with how the firing mechanism will only respond to Anakin, by virtue of the peculiar nature of the station, hence why Centerpoint's accuracy was off and it shut down again after firing.

Essentially, trillions of lives would have been saved if Anakin had been the one to use Centerpoint.

[RogueIce]

I think Allison done a good job redeeming him after Stackpole and Dave Wolferton(sp?) did such a half assed job.

To be fair, Stackpole didn't really do anything with Zsinj. He bombarded some stuff and then tried to set up Rogue Squadron for the loss of the bacta convoy, but that was about it.

[Battlehymn Republic]

Another bad character model- Isard's Cruella de Ville hair. I mean, that's just dumb-looking.