This Cold (HD) War Just Got Hot

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2007-10-20 07:55pm

Microsoft to give away 5 HD-DVD titles with every new purchase of the HD add-on peripheral to the Xbox 360.

Wonder how much longer Sony will keep harping on about that lead they have with Blu-ray.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2007-10-20 08:38pm

Nevermind that HD-DVD players go for like $200-250 at Circuit City, while BD-ROM is $500 or so.

The only reason BDROM has a lead is because sony made it part of the PS3.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2007-10-20 08:43pm

I'm going to say that this brings the weeklies from 70/30 to 65/35 at most, for at most 3 weeks.

DaveJB · Post by **DaveJB** » 2007-10-20 09:13pm

I was thinking about getting the HD-DVD gizmo for Christmas anyway; as soon as I know that the titles on offer aren't ones that are crap/that I already own, I'm in!

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2007-10-20 09:26pm

MKSheppard wrote:Nevermind that HD-DVD players go for like $200-250 at Circuit City, while BD-ROM is $500 or so.

The only reason BDROM has a lead is because sony made it part of the PS3.

Which, given the PS3's massive success, makes this even more dire for MS then, really. BD-ROM is a good one to back because of data density, so if one has to die, it needs to be HD-DVD so we don't get a half step forward, but a whole one. Though I still doubt this whole HD format war will end with a real victor like Beta vs. VHS. And in that case, the inferior VHS won instead.

Starglider · Post by **Starglider** » 2007-10-20 09:43pm

DaveJB wrote:I was thinking about getting the HD-DVD gizmo for Christmas anyway; as soon as I know that the titles on offer aren't ones that are crap/that I already own, I'm in!

Ditto; I have to buy a 360 anyway to play Ace Combat 6 and GTA4.

Admiral Valdemar wrote:BD-ROM is a good one to back because of data density, so if one has to die, it needs to be HD-DVD so we don't get a half step forward, but a whole one.

Hopefully Toshiba will get those tri-layer discs into production next year.

Medic · Post by **Medic** » 2007-10-20 11:15pm

Don't forget in the whole hi-def war that HD-DVD's at least can be played on DVD players too. (they're double-sided

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Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-10-21 01:44am

Only the specifically-made HD-DVD Combo format discs can, and there appears to be a real quality control issue with those.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2007-10-21 10:39am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Only the specifically-made HD-DVD Combo format discs can, and there appears to be a real quality control issue with those.

I thought, given dual sided discs were the first kind before DVD9, that this wouldn't be an issue. Have one side Blu-ray, one side HD-DVD. Voila, end of format war nonsense.

Sephirius · Post by **Sephirius** » 2007-10-21 06:05pm

Starglider wrote:
DaveJB wrote:I was thinking about getting the HD-DVD gizmo for Christmas anyway; as soon as I know that the titles on offer aren't ones that are crap/that I already own, I'm in!
Ditto; I have to buy a 360 anyway to play Ace Combat 6 and GTA4.

Both will be available on PS3.

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2007-10-21 06:26pm

GTA4 will be. Ace Combat 6 not so much.

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » 2007-10-21 06:36pm

Vendetta wrote:GTA4 will be. Ace Combat 6 not so much.

It's supposed to come out for it at some point according to IGN.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2007-10-21 07:12pm

While it's been up and down, the cheaper format has always been the winner in the past, so I don't like BD's long term prospects. I can't see BD surviving long when HD-DVD players are $99 and BD players are still $200 or more.

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » 2007-10-21 09:05pm

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:While it's been up and down, the cheaper format has always been the winner in the past, so I don't like BD's long term prospects. I can't see BD surviving long when HD-DVD players are $99 and BD players are still $200 or more.

Except that both HDDVD's and BD's cost the same amount of money. And this hasn't even entered the stage where people who aren't willing to spend $500 for bleeding edge technology are purchasing the players in any great numbers.

I don't think there will be a clear winner unless one side throws in the towel. What's going to happen is we'll start seeing hybrid players.

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2007-10-22 04:37pm

Flagg wrote:
Vendetta wrote:GTA4 will be. Ace Combat 6 not so much.
It's supposed to come out for it at some point according to IGN.

Namco haven't ruled it out, but they apparently aren't currently working on a PS3 version.

I'd expect AC7 to be multiplatform, unless the PS3 is looking like even more of a bad bet by then, but AC6 not so much.

Starglider · Post by **Starglider** » 2007-10-22 07:45pm

Sephirius wrote:
Starglider wrote:Ditto; I have to buy a 360 anyway to play Ace Combat 6 and GTA4.
Both will be available on PS3.

Even if AC6 does eventually come out for the PS3, I can get them both considerably cheaper (and for the later, sooner) on a 360, and the PS3 has no exclusives that I actually want (fortunately the next Soul Calibur game is multiplatform as well). OTOH I may have to get a Wii just for the new Mario Kart game, if I am to maintain my current status as party play champion.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2007-10-23 12:26pm

Starglider wrote:
Sephirius wrote:
Starglider wrote:Ditto; I have to buy a 360 anyway to play Ace Combat 6 and GTA4.
Both will be available on PS3.
Even if AC6 does eventually come out for the PS3, I can get them both considerably cheaper (and for the later, sooner) on a 360

All new HD console games are $59.99, unless you mean you don't even have the hardware yet. Even then, it's not like every 360 SKU is cheaper than every PS3 SKU.

Starglider · Post by **Starglider** » 2007-10-23 01:01pm

Xisiqomelir wrote:Even then, it's not like every 360 SKU is cheaper than every PS3 SKU.

Let me guess, you're from the Sony Defense Force?

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2007-10-23 01:19pm

Starglider wrote:
Xisiqomelir wrote:Even then, it's not like every 360 SKU is cheaper than every PS3 SKU.
Let me guess, you're from the Sony Defense Force?

I post at the same board as Razoric and m0dus, if that counts.

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2007-10-23 02:45pm

Xisiqomelir wrote:All new HD console games are $59.99, unless you mean you don't even have the hardware yet. Even then, it's not like every 360 SKU is cheaper than every PS3 SKU.

Did you even read the message you quoted? The one that says "I still have to buy a 360"?

Also, not all new games are the same price here. For example, Conan is £40 on the Xbox but £45 on the PS3. And, for the kicker, Amazon.co.uk is selling the Xbox 360 Elite for 1p cheaper than the 40 GB PS3.

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2007-10-23 04:06pm

Vendetta wrote:Also, not all new games are the same price here. For example, Conan is £40 on the Xbox but £45 on the PS3. And, for the kicker, Amazon.co.uk is selling the Xbox 360 Elite for 1p cheaper than the 40 GB PS3.

How very odd. Ignorantia juris non excusat, sorry for the misinformation.

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