28 Months Later...

Post by **weemadando** » 2007-10-23 03:23am

So, Danny Boyle has hinted (more than hinted) at a third movie to create the trilogy, and that he'd want it set in Russia (apparently).

So. Assuming that an infection spread in France as suggested at the end of 28 Weeks Later, with the next 18 months or so for it to spread across Europe - what would people want to see in the third one?

Do we want to see "cleanse it nuclear hellfire" or massive use of non-persistant chemical agents?

Do we want to see a big "keep out" wall built across Eastern Europe to keep out any infected on the ground?

Or do you you think that we'll just see BS that ignores the fact that the goddamn infected aren't zombies and tend to die of starvation?

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2007-10-23 03:43am

Atleast Danny Boyle is directing the bloody thing. From what I hear, 28WL wasn't exactly up to 28DL's standards, heh. Bloody Sunshine....

Post by **weemadando** » 2007-10-23 03:49am

To be honest, 28WL completely blew. They took a great premise and some good ideas and shoved it into a blender with some poorly written high-school satire on Iraq, then force-fed it to a cat with impacted anal glands, then smeared the outcome onto some celluloid.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2007-10-23 06:35am

Warning: weemadando contains hyperbole. It wasn't as good as the first, but completely blew? It was a generally servicable zombie film with a bit of standard retardation and depressing scenes for the hell of it, but "completely blew" is bullshit. For one, the cinematography was fine, the general story had its faults but was still better than most zombie films, there were scary parts and horrific parts.

hongi · Post by **hongi** » 2007-10-23 07:50am

I hope 28ML is set early into the virus' arrival at Russia. Focusing again on the personal stories, preferably a refugee family (or brother/sister if the family angle has been overdone). Emphasise the absolute panic in populace and government, the harsh military crackdowns, the massive movements of people fleeing from the cities. Maybe an outbreak in a refugee camp?

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-10-23 08:01am

The story was insane nonsense. The movie was rubbish.

Really, I'd like to see more actual drama not related to retarded zombie bullshit, like the first movie. Mass unprovisioned exodus across huge distances, as in Russia, would be a goldmine of non-zombie nonsense drama.

Instead we'll doubtless get 'lolz teh running zombiez look out everyone is retarded' and 'the zombies can also teleport and fire lasers from their eyes'.

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2007-10-23 08:03am

As usual, the movie will probably portray Russian as Americans with funny accents, and therefore will be completely unwatchable for someone who actually comes from Eastern Europe

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2007-10-23 09:15am

I'm probably in the vast minority on this, but I'd love to see it not end with all the main characters dead, dying or zombified.

Sure, kill off all the nameless people, just don't end it trapped with zombies on a fscking island! Goddamn "Blair Witch" endings...

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2007-10-23 09:52am

28WL was trash, it was a make a quick buck film using the premise of the previous one. The opening had such promise, the mood was right, the setting, the premise. When Carlysle leaves his wife to the infected - a stunningly human and starkly real decision in a mainstream film - I thought "Gee, here's a movie with balls."

Then the rest of it unfolded and I thought "Gee, I wasted 2 hours of my life."

Everything from the laughably absurd series of coincidences and lapses of logic to the characters no one gives a shit about to the monotonously looped reuses of the main riff from the previous film made this painful to sit through.

I'm expected to believe that Carlyle's wife survived the attack of the infected and wandered through the infected infested countryside and found herself in London weeks later without any harm to her? I mean did you see how many infected were running around that open field by the house? She walked through that? If you believed as I did initially that her immunity also made her somehow invisible to the infected - using the logic that she had been bitten and thus sensed by the infected as one of them - then it was stretching credibility but OK. But then it became painfully obvious that she is not invisible to the infected when Carlyle kills her after becoming infected then I had to throw up my hands in frustration.

I'm expected to believe that Carlyle can just waltz into a highly secure medical wing to see someone who might be infected and magically no guards are even at the door. Yes, one of the greatest weaknesses of a zombie film is that the military must drop 100 IQ points and act completely contrary to any standards of normal security so we can let the plot contrivances fly. The more painful part here is that the first 20-30 minutes establishes that the military is smart, prepared and has things under control and then when the threat is introduced they become blithering blood thirsty morons for the rest of the film.

I'm expected to believe that after watching 20-30 minutes of how good US security is in the complex that their emergency evacuation plan consists of jamming people like cattle into a basement with a back door that can be forced open by a single man?? The plot contrivances were beyond belief at this point. But wait. There's more.

Infected Carlyle survives the initial snipering and machinegunning of infected, survives a carpet bombing strike and somehow finds his wayward children in the London underground??? Is he superinfected? Is London the size of three city blocks? No, he's a really annoying plot contrivance.

Did anyone give a shit about the kids? I sure as hell didn't. The daughter was hot as shit but if either one got grabbed and killed I wouldn't have batted an eye. My sympathies lay with our sniper buddy who promptly gets immolated. After that I was praying for the ending.

I get it. The safety zone is the Green Zone. The US is occupying just like it was Iraq. Yes the infected are the insurgents. Yes, your hamhanded relevant social commentary has all the subtlety of a rage infected elephant. Thanks George Romero wannabe director for being edgy and relevant. UGH.

And the "twist" ending worthy of M Night shamalamadingdong was yawn inducing and made me think we deserve as a species to die if we're as dumb as the 28 X Later series portrays us.

So yes, indeed this movie sucked ass and I will not be catching the 28 months later bullshit unless it's free on cable.

tim31 · Post by **tim31** » 2007-10-23 12:01pm

Stravo wrote:Yes, your hamhanded relevant social commentary has all the subtlety of a rage infected elephant.

Ooooh, don't get my hopes up!

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2007-10-23 12:02pm

Never saw the first film, saw the second, but didn't really care for it. So, I really don't care about another installment in this franchise.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2007-10-23 12:34pm

The first film is greatly superior. Watch it, JME2. It's rather great.

speaker-to-trolls · Post by **speaker-to-trolls** » 2007-10-23 02:29pm

The first film is greatly superior. Watch it, JME2. It's rather great.

He speaks the truth, the first film is very good.

Stravo, thankyou for that review, it seems you've saved me two hours that might have gone totally to waste.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2007-10-23 03:19pm

I will only see it if it features the Russian army setting quarantine and beating back any attempt by the rage infected to infiltrate. "LOL ZOMBIES LOOK OUT" is not a legitimate tactic which can do anything against a modern army. I want to see 155mm field guns dropping canisters of Novichok nerve agents to sanitize concentrations of the rage-infected.

NeoGoomba · Post by **NeoGoomba** » 2007-10-23 06:17pm

I thought the intro scene with Carlyle was EXCELLENT, and really jived with the feel of 28DL, especially as he's running toward the boat and a hoard comes over the hilltop.

The rest of the movie, however, did not come close to the standards of the first. Especially that contrived "Nightscope ROFL" segement. That just pissed me off.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2007-10-23 06:22pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:I will only see it if it features the Russian army setting quarantine and beating back any attempt by the rage infected to infiltrate. "LOL ZOMBIES LOOK OUT" is not a legitimate tactic which can do anything against a modern army. I want to see 155mm field guns dropping canisters of Novichok nerve agents to sanitize concentrations of the rage-infected.

If the depictions of the military in 28 WL and to a lesser extent 28DL is any indication then what we will see are drunken Russian soldiers killing more civilians than infected throughout the movie and have the horde take Moscow due to sheer titanic stupidity and imbecelic tactics.

I don't know if it's because of the Romero taint on the genre that we have militaries routinely depicted as moronic and assanine in zombie films but honestly I want to see zombie hordes utterly getting annhilated by disciplined troops wielding the most letal armament in human history. 28 WL gave us a taste of it but its all wrapped up in depicting the military as more evil than the zombie hordes.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-10-23 06:34pm

And remember, the worst chemical weapons imaginable.

Block · Post by **Block** » 2007-10-23 06:45pm

Something I've never understood, in any zombie movie, where the hell are the tanks? Or even the LAVs? Helos? Fighter jets? You can lock an armored vehicle from the inside, so that infantry can't get in without shaped charges, so zombie swarms just wouldn't do anything. That said, RE2 at least makes some sense with that, since the Umbrella Corp is trying to hide what's happening.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-10-23 06:46pm

It's called 'fucking horrible writing'.

Block · Post by **Block** » 2007-10-23 06:49pm

But how cool would it be to see tanks cutting huge bloody swaths through the zombie horde, running some over, blowing others up with HE rounds and just generally fucking them up? I mean it'd be more entertaining to me.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2007-10-23 07:00pm

Stark wrote:And remember, the worst chemical weapons imaginable.

Oh god! How could I forget the gas agent made by the aliens from "Signs". I didn't know the US had nerve agents in its arsenal that could be defeated by a wet rag over your nose and mouth. That scene was nauseatingly stupid not to mention they killed the only character I gave a crap about in that attoricity of a movie during that wretched scene.

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » 2007-10-23 07:07pm

What really annoys me is that 28WL turned into another Zombie Apocalypse which hadn't been thought out very well. I mean, 28 Days Later more or less established that anyone with half a brain and some good weapons could basically murder hundreds of Infected - I mean, they only had what, a half dozen emplaced guys at that manor? Mines > zombies.

I mean, even the Romero films established that zombies weren't the real threat, it was other people. I like zombies, but the Zombie Apocalypse only really works when some voodoo ritual has turned most everyone into zombies, so that there isn't a military to worry about.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-10-23 08:02pm

Stravo wrote:Oh god! How could I forget the gas agent made by the aliens from "Signs". I didn't know the US had nerve agents in its arsenal that could be defeated by a wet rag over your nose and mouth. That scene was nauseatingly stupid not to mention they killed the only character I gave a crap about in that attoricity of a movie during that wretched scene.

No, no no no Stravo, they CLOSED THE VENTS ON A CIVILIAN CAR. Clearly, NBC protection!

That guy who went out got killed by flamers, because it's not like he had a gun or anything and could have shot... wait.

I think that's the level of stupidity acceptable in a movie about silly bastards on a small scale is no longer acceptable when it's a nationwide crisis of known and understood nature.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2007-10-23 08:32pm

28 weeks later was fucking stupid in every possible way at every possible time after the first fifteen minutes. Hell scratch that, after the first five minutes. The Green zone was just insane for one really good reason, not even related to how the security does a 180 in competence; THE SMELL OF MILLIONS OF DEAD BODIES WOULD DRIVE PEOPLE TO COMMIT SUICIDE! They could have avoided that by NOT showing US troops collecting up body’s right outside the gates, but no….

No squeal is going to be anything but even more crap; if 28WL made enough money to justify a third movie then I see absolutely no reason why they’d be more taught or effort into it.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2007-10-24 01:17pm

If Boyle sticks to his guns, he won't do this. He never goes for sequels and tries to never do a single genre more than once. He made Sunshine this year, not 28WL. We can see why.