Why the Democrats will take back the White House

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2007-10-22 02:30pm

When the democrats manage to hammer out a coalition within their party; they win.

Witness Clinton's coalition; which enabled him to become the first Democrat president in a long long time to win re-election.

That very same coalition has long since been torn to pieces by just about every faction in the Democratic party who hated Clinton for moving to the center and "triangulating", because they didn't have the sway or influence that their pet issues demanded.

Post by **Coyote** » 2007-10-22 02:38pm

The potential fissures within the Republican Party are, IMO, much greater when you consider the States-Rights/Small Government/Low Spending wing and the Big Business wing, which can form temporary alliances with the small-government wing by playing the "Libertarian" card...

...but the Christofascist wing, which is the one that draws out guaranteed scores of highly motivated voters each election no matter the weather, is pretty much taking over. When those groups fight, it's big, but they always manage to make up in time for the elections.

It seems that petty squabbles always undo the Dems at the wrong time, alas.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2007-10-22 02:48pm

Coyote wrote:...but the Christofascist wing, which is the one that draws out guaranteed scores of highly motivated voters each election no matter the weather, is pretty much taking over

Oh please. It's always been like that. Every decade, there's some hysteria over the RAR Religious Right, and how it's taking over the Republican Party.

Nevermind that the Democrat party has it's own wing of religious people to call in to insert votes where needed (insert black spiritual hymn) and they have to be appeased too.

The big difference between the two sides is that the various groups on the Right are capable of making up and supporting each other, whereas the Democrats are always going off on some fratricidial warfare because they're not "radical enough", the epitah of revolutionaries since time immemorial.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2007-10-24 06:21pm

Shep's idiotic ranting about how the Religious Right really isn't there has been flushed, as all deluded tirades should be.

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2007-10-24 09:08pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Coyote wrote:...but the Christofascist wing, which is the one that draws out guaranteed scores of highly motivated voters each election no matter the weather, is pretty much taking over
Oh please. It's always been like that. Every decade, there's some hysteria over the RAR Religious Right, and how it's taking over the Republican Party.

Nevermind that the Democrat party has it's own wing of religious people to call in to insert votes where needed (insert black spiritual hymn) and they have to be appeased too.

Nice little Golden Mean Fallacy you have there.

The big difference between the two sides is that the various groups on the Right are capable of making up and supporting each other, whereas the Democrats are always going off on some fratricidial warfare because they're not "radical enough", the epitah of revolutionaries since time immemorial.

Translation from Shep-speak: the Right behave as a fascistic mind-control cult and exercise top-down control over their party. The Democrats do not.

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2007-10-25 12:18am

MKSheppard wrote:
Coyote wrote:...but the Christofascist wing, which is the one that draws out guaranteed scores of highly motivated voters each election no matter the weather, is pretty much taking over
Oh please. It's always been like that. Every decade, there's some hysteria over the RAR Religious Right, and how it's taking over the Republican Party.

Nevermind that the Democrat party has it's own wing of religious people to call in to insert votes where needed (insert black spiritual hymn) and they have to be appeased too.

The big difference between the two sides is that the various groups on the Right are capable of making up and supporting each other, whereas the Democrats are always going off on some fratricidial warfare because they're not "radical enough", the epitah of revolutionaries since time immemorial.

The problem, of course, is that

A)white evangelical voters outnumber black religious voters, and

B)Many of the Democrats' solid black voters unfortunately live in the South, where their influence is blunted on a statewide scale by the larger, heavily Republican white population.

The Demos don't nearly get as much of a boost.