[40K] Imperial Authorities and our Earth, RAR?

[R_H] · Post by **[R_H]** » 2007-10-19 05:42pm

Hopefully the RAR is warranted.

Anyways, I'm interested it what people think would happen if the Imperium discovered and of course subsequently annexed the Earth of 2007. How would the Imperial authorities (especially the Ecclisiarchy(sp) and the Inquistion, I'm thinking Hereticus would be more prevalent than Mallaeus or Xenos in the case of coming into contact with a lost human planet) view the multitude of religions present, especially those of the Abrahamic variety? After being annexed, would the Imperium still allow the existence of individual nations left, ultimately answering to a Govenor, or would the popluation be divided up in another manner (according to continent etc)? What would happen to the inhabitants of the Earth, would the Imperial government undertake industrialising the Third World, make some sort of attempt at providing a somewhat worldwide quality of life or would they just turn the Earth into a Hive world?

Thanks

Teebs · Post by **Teebs** » 2007-10-19 09:09pm

I'm not sure about how they'd organise the countries and people, but I think the modus operandi for dealing with existing religions is to subsume them into the Imperial Cult if at all possible and exterminate them if not. In the case of Abrahamic religions the Imperium would probably just work to replace god with the emperor.

Zor · Post by **Zor** » 2007-10-19 11:42pm

This very much depends on the nature of the scenario, are they conquering an Earth dumped into the 41st milennium, is there an wormhole linking ours with the 40kverse or was an Imperial Warfleet dumbed back in time?

Zor

[R_H] · Post by **[R_H]** » 2007-10-20 05:13am

I was thinking a wormhole linking our universe to the 40Kverse

Post by **Edi** » 2007-10-20 06:53am

This belongs in Other Sci-Fi, not Off Topic

*kick*

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2007-10-20 07:09am

If the Imperium of Man ever envountered RL Earth, with all the WH40K fluff it would be a serious WTF for them. A lot of the WH40K fluff floating around would be considered some of the most vile Heresies possible.

Capturing Games Workshop personal would be the single most important objective for the Imperium forces once they find out about RL Earth knowing a scary amount of information about everything which matters in WH40K

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2007-10-20 11:41am

I'd have to have one big fucking bonfire.

andrewgpaul · Post by **andrewgpaul** » 2007-10-20 11:46am

Only of the Xenos codices. All the rest would count as devotional tracts

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2007-10-20 01:30pm

andrewgpaul wrote:Only of the Xenos codices. All the rest would count as devotional tracts

Most of the codices of just the Imperium forces would be enough to get an Inquisitor willing to kill to protect the information.

Never mind the novels.

Teleros · Post by **Teleros** » 2007-10-20 01:42pm

Hmm, wonder what they'd say when they get to the GW computers, with all the hidden fluff on them...

Ryan Thunder · Post by **Ryan Thunder** » 2007-10-20 07:24pm

Couldn't GW retcon the Imperial forces into the stone age with a few keystrokes?

Teebs · Post by **Teebs** » 2007-10-20 08:54pm

++Accessing GW central datanode++
++Submitting password++
+Accepted+
++Login: Andy Chambers++
++Contingency Plan 001++
+Confirm+
++Accessing... ... ...++
+Granted+
+++"Brother Centaurus," shouted the Space Marine, "those humans have gun and knives! We cannot fight them, we must flee!" As the blue armoured giant turned to run he was cut down in a blast from an irate farmer's shotgun. Across the field some ten year olds were beating up the Chapter master.+++

Games Workshop would save the world.

JGregory32 · Post by **JGregory32** » 2007-10-25 07:05pm

Don't forget the second they look at the internet and find Xeno/Space marine slash (yes it exists) their going to declare us a lost cause and bomb us into the stone age.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2007-10-25 07:25pm

What about all of the Chaos fluff? I'm not sure if they'd either bomb us back to the Stone Age, or recruit us to teach everybody just how stupid following Chaos truly is...

Cykeisme · Post by **Cykeisme** » 2007-10-25 08:34pm

I'm assuming that it's a wormhole to an alternate universe that has always existed, and just so happens to conform perfectly to fluff up until the moment the wormhole opens.
So defensive retcons probably wouldn't work

I doubt they'd recruit us to teach anything to anyone.
I'm picturing the system being cordoned off and studied intensely, with anyone who knows as much as 40k as any of you guys being rounded up and interrogated painfully.

And then. Exterminatus. Definitely Exterminatus.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2007-10-25 09:36pm

We would be all be Inquisition bait. We have a treasure trove of data not only on the Imperium's secrets, but on its enemies. Its common knowledge on this board that the Deciever is a High Lord of Terra. Inquisitors will go ballistic when they start to find out things like that and then they will want even more answers and they will do anything to get those answers and control the information.

It will suck to be Andy Chambers.

Hawkwings · Post by **Hawkwings** » 2007-10-25 10:40pm

See, if our 40K fluff didn't exist, we'd probably be a once in a millennium fine for the Imperium: a developed world with a large human population, and free from chaos or xenos influences.

Lost Soal · Post by **Lost Soal** » 2007-10-26 01:42am

Imperial Overlord wrote:Its common knowledge on this board that the Deciever is a High Lord of Terra.

Small point, isn't the Deciever next guy down from the Fabricator General.

Imperial Overlord · Post by **Imperial Overlord** » 2007-10-26 01:44am

Lost Soal wrote:
Imperial Overlord wrote:Its common knowledge on this board that the Deciever is a High Lord of Terra.
Small point, isn't the Deciever next guy down from the Fabricator General.

I'm not 100% sure about his rank, I'm sure NecronLord knows exactly.

Junghalli · Post by **Junghalli** » 2007-10-26 02:06am

Another major issue is that there's pretty strong fossil evidence that we're indigenous to this planet, not sons of Holy Terra, and therefore technically xeno scum. We better tell the museums to throw all their hominid bones and every artifact more than 40K years old into the incenerator, and destroy as many textbooks on human evolution and other secondary evidence of our indigenous origins as possible. Unfortunately I doubt we'll be able to get anywhere remotely close to all of it, but as long as the fossils are destroyed we can always claim they're all just vile lies.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2007-10-26 02:21am

Or they may think they've lucked on to a time warp and ended up on Holy Terra prior to the advent of Warp travel.

We can lie about the Codices and stuff, say it's cause of psykers. Those filthy precognitive psykers at Games Workshop, with their vile warpcraft.

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2007-10-26 02:22am

Imperial Overlord wrote:
Lost Soal wrote:
Imperial Overlord wrote:Its common knowledge on this board that the Deciever is a High Lord of Terra.
Small point, isn't the Deciever next guy down from the Fabricator General.
I'm not 100% sure about his rank, I'm sure NecronLord knows exactly.

Unless theres some information I'm missing, and the Deceiver has taken over a Highlord, he hasn't been described as having been a High Lord, or anybody who might potentially become a High Lord.

I'd say that even for the Deceiver, becoming one of the High Lords might be pushing it a little, unless he avoided actually attending one of their meetings physically.

As far as being the "next guy down" I don't believe the chap he's imitating is particularly close in whatever line of succession exists, he appears to be an Explorator Magos, High ranking, but not 3rd in line to the throne or something similar, i.e. his influence isn't enough to get the Noctis labyrinth fusion bombed (if he even wanted that).

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2007-10-26 03:53am

Teebs wrote:I'm not sure about how they'd organise the countries and people, but I think the modus operandi for dealing with existing religions is to subsume them into the Imperial Cult if at all possible and exterminate them if not. In the case of Abrahamic religions the Imperium would probably just work to replace god with the emperor.

No, Jesus, everything in the Imperial Cult is worshipping the Emperors sacrifice for humanity. Let's look at it this way, he was a mortal divine being that ascended upon being placed on an item that has become a holy symbol after suffering so that humanity would not have to. There's a reason many postulate that in 40k-verse he may have been Jesus of Nazareth.

Teleros · Post by **Teleros** » 2007-10-26 04:55am

white_rabbit wrote:Unless theres some information I'm missing, and the Deceiver has taken over a Highlord, he hasn't been described as having been a High Lord, or anybody who might potentially become a High Lord.

I was under the same impression - can't believe I'm that out of touch already

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Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2007-10-26 06:29am

Imperial Overlord wrote:
It will suck to be Andy Chambers.

QFT

But yes, think about all the information we have on the enemies of the Imperium.

We know a whole FUCKLOAD about what the Necrons, the C'Tan, the Eldar, the Orks, the Nids, the Chaos Hoards and so on are doing, thinking, plotting.

That information is worth its weight in fucking GOLD.

I mean how do you think the Inquisition are going to react when they find out about the fact that the Void Dragon is on Mars, being worshiped by a rogue faction of the AdptMech? Or that Deceiver is very high up in the same, working to forward his own agenda?

How do you think the Inquisition will react when they get a complete, in depth look at the history of the Eldar and how they fucked up, what they are doing about it and what they think of humanity?

At how the Emperor fucked up with Horus?

At the big secret(s) the Dark Angels are hiding deep in the basement of The Rock?

At the links between the Blood Ravens and Chaos Space Marine chapters?

Hell, what about all the dirty secrets the Inquisitors have, all published in various works? The factional fighting over everyone trying to get leverage on everyone else would just be insane?

Hell the wave of preemptive retribution and assassination's against corrupt / heretical / demonic people throughout the Imperium would be staggering, some worlds the Imperium would probably just blow to chunks to save time.

It would be very interesting if the Adptmech could replicate this wormhole. Because -I presume- our Galaxy's warp is going to be utterly calm, allowing for long range, VERY high speed movement without the need for the Emperor to guide, you could in fact use our Earth for a massive Strategic advantage; let the Imperium concentrate its forces rapidly to crush dozens of threats and react to events, far far faster then they can back in their own Galaxy, by flying to the area in our universe, then punching through.

As to how we survive all of this....well...probably not.