Samus Aran vs Boba Fett

TrekWarsie · Post by **TrekWarsie** » 2003-01-14 07:52pm

Both are equipped with all of their weapons. Fett does not get Slave I in this battle, though.

Who wins?

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2003-01-14 08:05pm

Which Samus is it? I/II/Super/Prime Samus, or Fusion Samus?

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-01-14 08:16pm

If this is Prime or Fusion then I think Fett is going down harder than a sack of spuds laced in Neutronium.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-14 08:37pm

Boba Fett. I doubt Samus's suit would be able to stand up to blasters and thermal detonators.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-01-14 08:43pm

Samus has a greater array of weapons that are easy to use, and with that scan visor could figure out fett's weak spots. One wave or ice beam hit at full power would seriously damage his suit or immobilize him to the point that some of his weapons would be inoperative. Finish him of with a missle or a charged plasma shot.
He may have powerful weapons but if his blaster and his flamethrower are close together in power and use, then he is seriously done for. Really most of the weapons he uses are used by the pirates in Prime.
If you want to argue that if Obiwan could not beat Jango how could a 0 lightsaber non SW person try. Consider this. The light saber is not as useful at blocking lasers close range if it was then Obiwan would have just moved in and cut off Jango's arms? No the lightsaber is a weapon best used where surprise and distance are not issues. As in you can get close enough to your opponant to neutralize them but are able to dodge or reflect laser fire.
Samus' suit can take a great deal of fire(at full power), and would make her, better able to neutralize him, faster.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-01-14 09:58pm

Old topic, boba fett gets his ass handed to him on a million little platters.

Samus's suit has shields, shields that can, with the right upgrades, sit in lava unharmed. Her suit can carry hundreds of missiles and bombs, varried energy weapons, ability to jump almost limitlessly, shoot through walls, infrared and ultraviolet vision. I'm pretty sure she could take a standard jedi and probly hold her own against a master(depends if he shields can stand a few/repeated lightsaber hits.

Bye bye.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-14 10:00pm

anarchistbunny wrote:Old topic, boba fett gets his ass handed to him on a million little platters.

Samus's suit has shields, shields that can, with the right upgrades, sit in lava unharmed. Her suit can carry hundreds of missiles and bombs, varried energy weapons, ability to jump almost limitlessly, shoot through walls, infrared and ultraviolet vision. I'm pretty sure she could take a standard jedi and probly hold her own against a master(depends if he shields can stand a few/repeated lightsaber hits.

Bye bye.

But how do those compare to a blaster bolt or a hail of them? And what about thermal detonators? Fett's got both and I'm skepitical of whether she's all she's cracked up to be.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-14 10:56pm

Stormbringer wrote:But how do those compare to a blaster bolt or a hail of them? And what about thermal detonators? Fett's got both and I'm skepitical of whether she's all she's cracked up to be.

Well, the person who you quoted said:

anarchistbunny wrote:Samus's suit has shields, shields that can, with the right upgrades, sit in lava unharmed.

There you go. Energy from Lava is more than Vader can absorb. Vader can absorb blaster bolts (unless you would like to say it was Vader's armor absorbing it, which opens up a whole new can of worms elsewhere). Samus > Lava > Vader > Blaster.
I wouldn't know about Thermal Detnators. How much damage do you take sitting under 25 ft of lava, since that's the amount of damage the Thermal Detnator will have to overcome, just do deal ONE point of 200+ damage needed to bring her down.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-01-14 10:57pm

Oh, forgot to mention, Samus's armor doesn't slow her down a bit. Before we had teh quote that her armor acted like a second skin, but in Prime we see just how serious that quote is. Her suit flexes with her breathing. And not just moving up and down, but bending inward.

FireNexus · Post by **FireNexus** » 2003-01-14 11:11pm

Aran would likely take this battle. Fett's got skill, but as has been previously said, Samus' shields can take ludicrus amounts of thermal energy. So, blaster bolts will likely not do much damage (if any at all). However, thermal detonators may give her a run for her money.

Interestingly enough, kinetic attacks seem to be quite effective against her, which supports the Wong conclusion that Kinetic weapons against energy shields are more effective than energy weapons.

So, Sammer may be fucked up by blast of a thermal detonator may (I'm not a numbers man, and am in no way enamored by the idea of crunching the numbers to see what her suit can take) be able to take her out, his blasters would be left impotent against her.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-14 11:17pm

Yogi wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:But how do those compare to a blaster bolt or a hail of them? And what about thermal detonators? Fett's got both and I'm skepitical of whether she's all she's cracked up to be.
Well, the person who you quoted said:
anarchistbunny wrote:Samus's suit has shields, shields that can, with the right upgrades, sit in lava unharmed.
There you go. Energy from Lava is more than Vader can absorb. Vader can absorb blaster bolts (unless you would like to say it was Vader's armor absorbing it, which opens up a whole new can of worms elsewhere). Samus > Lava > Vader > Blaster.

That's the thing, the incident with Vader is ambigous. I for one think he blocked it at least partially with the Force. We know blaster ordinarily cut through stormtrooper armor so we need to determine the strength of her armor and compare that to the damage of blaster bolts.

And two other points:

1) We don't know that Anakin/Vader feel in lava. There are conflicting accounts some of which say it was some sort of reactor.

2) We don't know if he was armored when he fell.

anarchistbunny wrote:I wouldn't know about Thermal Detnators. How much damage do you take sitting under 25 ft of lava, since that's the amount of damage the Thermal Detnator will have to overcome, just do deal ONE point of 200+ damage needed to bring her down.

Perform the calcs but don't use game mechanics.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-01-15 12:28am

Draw, as they decide not to waste ammo on one another when there are bigger fish to fry.

The inevitable sex subthread will begin, including images of anal sex in the Slave I's cockpit.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2003-01-15 02:09am

Well, I'm actually familiar most with Super Metroid Samus, who's got a massive assortment of weapons. I mean, her suits energy shield by the end of the game, if you've gotten everything, can be upgraded with 14 energy tanks and 4 reserve tanks. It's basically like you've got to kill Samus 18 times.

Considering you can get 230 missiles in Super Metroid, 50 super missiles, 50 power bombs, plus limitless normal bombs and blaster cannon attacks, Samus is packing quite alot of heat in her suit. She can get Wave/Plasma and Spazer/Ice Beam. Plus she can do more powerful blast attacks with Charge Beam. Plus, if she gets everything that means she's packing hyperbeam, and that's some badass shit right there.

With Gravity Suit, damage is reduced by 3/4th, plus she can move through lava and water like air. Plus, she's got hi-jump boots, which make she jump extremely high and space jump boots which let he jump continuously in the air. Combined with screw attack (think Sonic the Hegdehog like attack) and the ability to rebound off walls, she doesn't really need very much ground. Sort of like flying, but not quite. When I fought Ridley at the end of Norfair, I didn't even touch the ground at all. As has been said, it makes Samus is protected from extreme heat from lava.

With speed booster, she can run really fast and make huge vertical leaps.

From all I've seen of Boba Fett in the movies, I don't see how he has a chance. Samus is freaking badass.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2003-01-15 09:59am

SirNitram wrote:Draw, as they decide not to waste ammo on one another when there are bigger fish to fry.

The inevitable sex subthread will begin, including images of anal sex in the Slave I's cockpit.

Samus takes it in the ass?

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-15 10:02am

Samus takes it in the ass?

Of course. This is SD.net, run by one of the most vocal proponents of anal sex in the entire world

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2003-01-15 10:11am

Vympel wrote:
Galvatron wrote:Samus takes it in the ass?
Of course. This is SD.net, run by one of the most vocal proponents of anal sex in the entire world

Does that include A2M?

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2003-01-15 10:17am

Samus is 6' tall, weighing 200 pounds.
How big is Boba?

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-15 09:29pm

Stormbringer wrote:Perform the calcs but don't use game mechanics.

......
So, what SHOULD I use. I'm not familiar with Metroid in other formats except the games.

Rubberanvil · Post by **Rubberanvil** » 2003-01-16 12:19am

XaLEv wrote: How big is Boba?

Wrong question, the one you want to ask is "How big is Boba's manhood?"

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-01-16 04:44am

Rubberanvil wrote:
XaLEv wrote: How big is Boba?
Wrong question, the one you want to ask is "How big is Boba's manhood?"

That should remain secret. Suffice to say all my girlfriends were more than satisfied...

On the other hand thermal detonators can be set from low to a very high level of power.

In SotE a single one blowed up several levels in Xizor's palace on Coruscant.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-16 08:07am

Yogi wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Perform the calcs but don't use game mechanics.

......
So, what SHOULD I use. I'm not familiar with Metroid in other formats except the games.

Actually I was responding to anarchistbunny's post.

The games are vaild but he's just throughing out game stats with out even attempting to analyse them. Not to mention he's saying even lethal wounds should be measured by hit points.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2003-01-16 09:32am

Stormbringer wrote:
Yogi wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Perform the calcs but don't use game mechanics.

......
So, what SHOULD I use. I'm not familiar with Metroid in other formats except the games.
Actually I was responding to anarchistbunny's post.

The games are vaild but he's just throughing out game stats with out even attempting to analyse them. Not to mention he's saying even lethal wounds should be measured by hit points.

Well, in regards to the last part, according to Metroid Prime that's exactly the case. Energy tanks generate a shield that has to be dropped before you can damamge Samus or her armor(The information is given when you scan an energy tank). So in order to hurt Samus, you really do have to drain every single energy tank, plus any reserves she has.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-16 09:37am

SAMAS wrote:Well, in regards to the last part, according to Metroid Prime that's exactly the case. Energy tanks generate a shield that has to be dropped before you can damamge Samus or her armor(The information is given when you scan an energy tank). So in order to hurt Samus, you really do have to drain every single energy tank, plus any reserves she has.

I understand the difference between a sheilded and an unsheilded target. However I'm saying that the energy levels of the sheild should be calculated.

And I am also saying you absolutely cannot apply game damage models to her unsheiled.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-16 12:47pm

Lava Calcs

The Lava was somewhre bewteen orange and red, making the temprature around 1000C or 1273 K
By the formula Q = s * T^4 (where s = 5.67 X 10-5 ergs/sec/cm2/deg4) the amount radiated by Lava = 14.89 Joules / cm^2 *sec.

The human body has around 2m^2 of surface area. Assume the armor does NOT add ANY extra surface area.
2m^2 = 20,000 cm^2

(14.89 Joules/(cm^2 * sec)) * 20,000 sm^2 = 279,800 Joules/sec

We don't know how much energy her armor conducts, so let's assumt is conducts NO energy at all (impossible, I know.)

The density of lava 2.6 g/cm^3. Therefore, for one cubic meter, you get 2,600 kg of weight, all pressing down on a square meter area. Samus has 2 cubic meters of Surface Area, so that's 4,200 m^2. That's .50 atmospheres per meter. In the game, the deepest she ever went (I think) is 10 meters. So that's an extra 5 atmospheres pressing down on her.

Damage she takes from all of the above: Zero.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-01-16 07:35pm

Accually to get to the ruined area you have to go through a very deep lava pit. 10 meters sounds a little short for it.