CRAIG, Colo., Nov. 5 (UPI) -- A man from northern Colorado was taken to the hospital after being gored by a deer while on a hunting trip.
The Grand Junction Daily Sentinel said the man was hunting with at least one other person Sunday near Craig, Colo., when one of them downed a buck.
When the man approached the animal, it got back up and rammed the man.
Randy Hampton, spokesman with the Division of Wildlife's northwest region, said the injured hunter was taken to Craig Memorial Hospital.
"We have been told the Craig hospital transferred the patient to St. Mary's (Hospital)," Hampton said. "My understanding is the injuries are significant."
Any opinion on this? Does anyone think the man got what he deserved?
Personally, I wouldn't go that far. I think hunting is a right people have, and that injury is part of the risk of doing it. I hope he makes a full recovery (even though he's probably a right wing douche),
I've always liked guns, but I'm also a bit of an animal lover. I have never had the desire to kill wildlife, but I don't have a problem with those who do either. I just know it's not for me.
If you get yourself killed by a deer, I do not even begin to care. Hunting however is absolutely necessary for animal population control, especially of white tailed deer and no viable alternative exists in areas with any level of human population. Those insane sterilization plots NEVER work, and people aren’t like to be fond of releasing hoards of wolves and panthers.
I don’t hunt myself though, because all the local game lands are filled with morons shooting anything that moves (especially if it’s bright orange) and I’m not in a position to be traveling long distances to do it.
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If you go out into the wilderness with whatever equipment you wish and the intent to kill something, if that thing kills you right back, no one's fault but your own. Now, I'm not blaming the man this, but I do think he got what he deserved. He put himself in that situation, and this happened to be the consequence of it.
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Revan's Fire wrote:If you go out into the wilderness with whatever equipment you wish and the intent to kill something, if that thing kills you right back, no one's fault but your own. Now, I'm not blaming the man this, but I do think he got what he deserved. He put himself in that situation, and this happened to be the consequence of it.
I don't think he got what he deserved. To say he deserved to die is just as bold as saying the deer deserves to die for being a prey animal. I feel bad for him, but I also accept that it's a risk he took willingly, and I have no hard feelings against the animal.
Superman wrote:Personally, I wouldn't go that far. I think hunting is a right people have, and that injury is part of the risk of doing it. I hope he makes a full recovery (even though he's probably a right wing douche),
I'm a hunter and this pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter. It's also why I carry a pistol to fend off hogs, or coyotes on the outside chance.
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The hunter was just unlucky. The deer was wounded, not dead, and it struck out just like any wounded animal. Totally the hunter's fault for not making a clean kill in the first place, and for getting that close when it wasn't dead yet.
As for hunting itself? Heh... I like the taste of game. Had a tasty venison stew and venison summer sausage over the weekend, thanks to a friend who took down a buck opening day. Of course, in my state the Opening Day of Deer Season (sometimes the whole week) is a unofficial school holiday for the boys.
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I can't really feel sorry for the hunter; he doesn't deserve to die, but neither does the deer. If you go outside looking to kill things, this should be a risk you're willing to accept.
If there are more aggressive deer like this around now due to natural selection, good. I'm not against hunting but it shouldn't be taken lightly.
The deer did as any animal would, but I wonder if the hunter waited long enough before approaching or simply shot poorly? Sounds like poor technique.
As for hunting: I don't have any interest, but I do love wild pork and venison, so up the hunt!. Mind you hunting is essential in NZ to protect the native eco system and hunting is openly encouraged by the government. Hunting is widely supported by the NZ populace, who are a fairly unsentimental lot when it comes to shooting things in the bush.
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Some places absolutely rely on hunting for various reasons. My cousin's ranch needs hunters to come out and cull the wild hogs they've got out there, since they destroy the wilderness, causing all sorts of erosion and plant destruction. Certain deer species need culling, as well, as much for the population's sake as the environment they live in's sake. Various introduced species should either be killed off completely or have their populations' kept down if they've usurped another species' niche.
As for this guy? No, he doesn't deserve to die because he's a hunter any more than a slaughterhouse worker, rancher, fisherman or exterminator would. However, hunting has risks like that, so it wouldn't be surprising if he did die.
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Along with many others, I'm pro-hunting. I doubt I'll ever do it myself. I just have no desire to shoot an animal. If there weren't hunting the deer that live up in the mountains would come down into the valley and get splattered on I-15 fairly regularly, I'd imagine.
It sucks for the hunter, but that's a risk of hunting. He may have goofed up, for all I know. Either way, I hope he recovers but won't be too upset if he dies.
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Deer in many areas are reaching unprecedented densities. Back in the day, they had predators like wolves to keep numbers down. Now they breed unchecked, people even feed the damn things, and they're eating the forests to death. Something's gotta eat them, and most hunters end up eating what they kill. Better than supporting rain forest destruction for beef ranching, I say.
Incidentally, hunters are often staunch environmentalists, so while the guy might be right-wing on other topics, it's very possible that he's very pissed at the Republican party for dismissing environmental concerns.
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Kanastrous wrote: If your intended prey injures or kills you, that's also fine. Fair's fair.
One of Jeff Cooper's hunting stories is about a professional hunter who shot a Cape Buffalo. The wounded animal went to ground and the hunter went into the bush after it. He put two more shots into the poor thing. The Buffalo, now barely able to drag himself along, still managed to get to the hunter and gore him, opening up his femoral artery. Hunter and prey died together. Apparently professional hunters from all over South Africa wanted to pay their respects for sheer raw courage so they turned up for the funeral .... of the buffalo.
Personally, I would note that
a) its illegal here to sell game meat that's been harvested from from the wild
b) I adore gently-braised wild boar (food for the gods that is)
c) a =b leaves me no choice.
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Well, it's not good that that hunter was injured, but that's a risk with hunting. It's only fair that the hunted animal should fight back.
My father told me a story about how when he was in the Navy he went bow hunting with a Air Force Captain. During their hunting trip, they encountered a large male boar. My father wanted to let the thing alone, only to turn to see the Captain in question pulling back his bow and shooting the thing.
Needless to say, it took six arrows to kill the thing and made a good show of nearly knocking down the tree they climbed. As it turned out in those six arrows they got both lungs and its heart, along with injuring it's shoulder and back leg. The thing eventually died two hours later and they were still up that tree then.
My father said he had used some expressions that you should really not say to a Captain, but the man let it slide.
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Gil Hamilton wrote:Well, it's not good that that hunter was injured, but that's a risk with hunting. It's only fair that the hunted animal should fight back.
My father told me a story about how when he was in the Navy he went bow hunting with a Air Force Captain. During their hunting trip, they encountered a large male boar. My father wanted to let the thing alone, only to turn to see the Captain in question pulling back his bow and shooting the thing.
Needless to say, it took six arrows to kill the thing and made a good show of nearly knocking down the tree they climbed. As it turned out in those six arrows they got both lungs and its heart, along with injuring it's shoulder and back leg. The thing eventually died two hours later and they were still up that tree then.
My father said he had used some expressions that you should really not
say to a Captain, but the man let it slide.
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What did they do with the dead boar?
I believe it was returned to the Naval Air Station near Memphis where my dad was stationed.
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Bow hunting I am against, unless its for deer population control close to urban areas. The lethality is just not sufficient for anything but very small game that 99% of bow hunters can’t hit to start with.
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