Stormtrooper vs. Klingon Warrior

[Mr. B]

No guns (ie blasters, phasers, disrupters)

The stormie has a force pike and the warrior a bat'leth.

Put in a gladiator like stadium.

FIGHT

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

melee weapons aren't effective against Stormie armour.

[Next of Kin]

Is there a name for the Klingon martial art system that they supposedly use?

[Darth Garden Gnome]

This is probably what would happen:

*Klingon sluggishly swings weapon at stormie, stormie parries with force pike, cutting through ba'leth and Klingon, stormie wins*

And GAT,maybe a Kling can swing the weapon with so much force it'll give him a concussion, or whatever, although from the cyborg/spear example, maybe not.

[Isolder74]

melee weapons aren't effective against Stormie armour.

but rocks are. If the klingon hits hard enough he might do something

[SirNitram]

melee weapons aren't effective against Stormie armour.

but rocks are. If the klingon hits hard enough he might do something

I'd be very surprised if a Klingon can heft a rock of that size above his head and drop it on a Stormtrooper below.

[Mr. B]

melee weapons aren't effective against Stormie armour.

For the sake of this vs lets say he is wearing the black naval trooper uniform. With helmet.

[Alyrium Denryle]

He still wins, force pikes are vibroblades

klingon swings, stormie parries and bat'leth is cut in two, stormie makes one quick wrist motion and klingon is sliced neck to nuts

[Captain Cyran]

No no no Alyrium....Klingon screams as the swings, then his bat'leth gets cut in two and he gets killed.

[Howedar]

If the Stormtrooper has no armor, then it depends on the skill of the individual Klingon and Stormtrooper.

I am unconvinced that the weapons themselves will make the difference.

Of course, we never have seen a remotely competent Klingon, so it really doesn't make any difference.

[Patrick Ogaard]

Even wearing the black naval trooper's uniform, the stormtrooper armed with the force pike should win more often than not in a contest of force pike against Klingon sidearm, batleth (bat'elh?) or mekleth (the short version used by Worf).

Even with the vibroblade function turned off, the stormtrooper would likely win.

Simply put, not one of the standard Klingon weapons is well designed to block or outreach a long thrusting weapon like a force pike. The Klingon might force his body along the shaft of the force pike to chop the stormtrooper in half before expiring, but a solid thrust through the gizzard will kill regardless of the number of spare livers Klingons carry around inside.

Turn the vibroblade function on and a Klingon has no chance at all unless he throws his weapon and connects.

Actually, this might be a viable scenario if one assumes a massive multi-sided melee between various forces attempting to take control of an Ikonian teleportation facility, as long as one assumes its damping fields work on blasters.

So we have:

1. Imperial naval security troopers with force pikes (whose powered functions may not work)

2. Jem'hadar with their odd axe-like weapons

3. Klingon warriors in all their glorious melee attire of bat'leth, d'ktahg and possibly mek'leth (single or pair) if someone doesn't want to tote around a bat'leth

4. Starfleet security personnel, who would ordinarily carry nothing more than a combat knife in such a situation, but let's say their ship's first officer just held a Vulcan bachelor party and had a couple of Vulcan prenuptial conflict resolution devices on hand, so that each muscular security dude is toting a lirpa or ahn woon in addition to the regular knife.

Who else should join the party?

[Master of Ossus]

The Klingon weapon is not as good as a force pike in either durability or edge, and the stormtrooper armor is highly resistant to simple kinetic strikes. I think that the stormtrooper would win more times than lose, during this battle.

[Darth Yoshi]

Throw in some Borg drones for fun. Personally, i think the stormtrooper would win. Even if Klingons are stronger than humans physically, the stormtrooper can move faster, especially without that armor.

[Howedar]

I am a damn fool who has forgotten that the Klingon has a batleth, one of the worst melee weapons in all of science fiction. Stormtrooper sans armor wins easily.

[Bob The Great]

Keep in mind that in addition to the vibro-blade tip, the force pike has a stun setting, where a mere touch anywhere on the pike except the handle will render this poor Klingon unconscious, and shortly to be sliced and diced at the trooper's liesure.

[Darth Garden Gnome]

Excellent point, Bob. With the stun feature, the stormie need not fear being killed by a Klingons final move before he dies. Of course this si just adding to the already overwhelming "stormtrooper wins" pile, and detracting from the ever decreasing "Klingon wins" pile.

[Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman]

Throw in some Borg drones for fun. Personally, i think the stormtrooper would win. Even if Klingons are stronger than humans physically, the stormtrooper can move faster, especially without that armor.

You mean, "Throw in some Borg drones for blade-fodder"???

[Eleas]

(Darth Garden Gnome)
"This is probably what would happen:

*Klingon sluggishly swings weapon at stormie, stormie parries with force pike, cutting through ba'leth and Klingon, stormie wins*"

Hey, I dislike ST fighting choreography as much as the next guy, but how exactly are you going to cut through a bat'leth in mid-swing with the three-inch vibroblade tip of a force pike? That would take Royal Guard skill level.

"And GAT,maybe a Kling can swing the weapon with so much force it'll give him a concussion, or whatever, although from the cyborg/spear example, maybe not."

Actually, I'm fairly surprised Stormtroopers don't carry a field vibroblade or something similar, just for close-quarters scuffling.

[NecronLord]

(Darth Garden Gnome)
"This is probably what would happen:

*Klingon sluggishly swings weapon at stormie, stormie parries with force pike, cutting through ba'leth and Klingon, stormie wins*"

Hey, I dislike ST fighting choreography as much as the next guy, but how exactly are you going to cut through a bat'leth in mid-swing with the three-inch vibroblade tip of a force pike? That would take Royal Guard skill level.

"And GAT,maybe a Kling can swing the weapon with so much force it'll give him a concussion, or whatever, although from the cyborg/spear example, maybe not."

Actually, I'm fairly surprised Stormtroopers don't carry a field vibroblade or something similar, just for close-quarters scuffling.

No the royal guard skill level would be killing the kling before he can even move

[Eleas]

(NecronLord)
"No the royal guard skill level would be killing the kling before he can even move"

To hit a weapon in midswing with a three-inch blade is difficult. If the blade is affixed to a two meter rod, it's more difficult. If the rod is flexible... almost impossible.

[Yuri]

Come on, the Empire is not invincible and Klingon combat training is definately superior. What's up with you guys?

[FireNexus]

If Klingon combat training were superior to stormies, then DS9 would've been taken easily.

Klingons use idiotic melee attacks when ranged combat would keep them both safer and more secure in their positions. They're glory-hogging morons, and only that.

[Howedar]

And their weapons suck.
Not bad for parrying, but you can't attack worth shit.

[Mr. B]

Come on, the Empire is not invincible and Klingon combat training is definately superior. What's up with you guys?

Yeah right. At the first chance the klings drop their disruptors and pick up the melee weapons. Then they run and get shot. The stormie would pound on the klingon. And the force pike is a more versatile weapon than the batleth. it also has a better range.

[Darth Yoshi]

You mean, "Throw in some Borg drones for blade-fodder"???

Of course. You didn't think that I was suggesting the Borg drones would win, did you? Only DarkStar would suggest that.