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Hyperdimensional beings? Holy fuck. That makes my co-workers claim about the Illuminati controlling the world since the beginning of civilization sound reasonable by comparison.

Like I said in the venting thread though, I feel that most conspiracy theorists stick to their beliefs because it makes them feel smart.

To them, the rest of us have the "wool over our eyes", and aren't smart enough to see something blindingly obvious, like a secret society that's controlled the world for thousands of years.

I find coming up with equally absurd theories and arguing them works best. Really shows them that without evidence, you can make up any stupid shit.
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The Illuminati want you to think it's hyperdimensional beings.
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On a related note, James Randi has been getting some flack from some Woo-Woos using the same brand of logic. They posit that since psychic phenomenon do not work around him, he must be using his own powers to cancel out their powers. Yep, you heard that right.
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Holy mother of fuck, take a look at the Reader Review page for her book on Amazon. It will make your eyes bleed. Here are some choice excerpts:
Idiot #1 wrote:Once I started this book I couldn't put it down. Ms. Knight-Jadczyk has found clues scattered throughout the world, put them all together and shows a true picture of this planet's history and what may come to be. She has bravely put the truth out there for all to see, come what may. And there are those out there who don't want the truth to be told.
Idiot #2 wrote:Laura has put an enormous amount of effort into compiling the data in this sublime, scholarly and compelling book. The reader will be richly rewarded via the knowledge and experience gained by studying Secret History, enabling them to more effectively break free of matrix control agents in their infinite guises which range from New Age gurus, politicians, media people to interdimensional vampires, organic portals and aliens. If you are looking to heighten your awareness of the truly alternative history that Ms. Knight-Jadczyk so abundantly and convincingly provides and has been supressed for so long, this is indeed the book to do it with.
Idiot #3 wrote:Secret History of the World by Laura Knight-Jadczyk, should be used as a text book in our schools. It taught me to think with an open mind and re-examine my understanding of the present human condition in an objective way. It covers such subjects as Alchemy, Myth, Hyperdimensional Reality, Legends of the Holy Grail, History, The Science of Ascension, Catastrophe, Ancient Enigmas, explores the Divine, Human and Elemental worlds and on and on. Just an incredible amount of information put together for those of us seeking the objective truth about our history, which in turn can help us understand the forces at work in our present reality and those in our potential future. Thanks!
I can't go on. The stupidity is too much to bear. Not just interdimensional beings, but interdimensional vampires! :roll:
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Darth Wong wrote:Holy mother of fuck, take a look at the Reader Review page for her book on Amazon. It will make your eyes bleed. Here are some choice excerpts:
Idiot #1 wrote:Once I started this book I couldn't put it down. Ms. Knight-Jadczyk has found clues scattered throughout the world, put them all together and shows a true picture of this planet's history and what may come to be. She has bravely put the truth out there for all to see, come what may. And there are those out there who don't want the truth to be told.
Idiot #2 wrote:Laura has put an enormous amount of effort into compiling the data in this sublime, scholarly and compelling book. The reader will be richly rewarded via the knowledge and experience gained by studying Secret History, enabling them to more effectively break free of matrix control agents in their infinite guises which range from New Age gurus, politicians, media people to interdimensional vampires, organic portals and aliens. If you are looking to heighten your awareness of the truly alternative history that Ms. Knight-Jadczyk so abundantly and convincingly provides and has been supressed for so long, this is indeed the book to do it with.
Idiot #3 wrote:Secret History of the World by Laura Knight-Jadczyk, should be used as a text book in our schools. It taught me to think with an open mind and re-examine my understanding of the present human condition in an objective way. It covers such subjects as Alchemy, Myth, Hyperdimensional Reality, Legends of the Holy Grail, History, The Science of Ascension, Catastrophe, Ancient Enigmas, explores the Divine, Human and Elemental worlds and on and on. Just an incredible amount of information put together for those of us seeking the objective truth about our history, which in turn can help us understand the forces at work in our present reality and those in our potential future. Thanks!
I can't go on. The stupidity is too much to bear. Not just interdimensional beings, but interdimensional vampires! :roll:
LMAO...holy shit, this reminds me of the Simpson skit with just Reverse Vampires. Except it's not a joke to these morons.
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Its like someone picked up a D20 Paladium sourcebook and didn't realize it was fiction. Where are Cosmo-Knights and Splugorth when you need them?
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:Where are Cosmo-Knights and Splugorth when you need them?
Rubbing elbows with Henry Kissinger and Richard Branson at the Bilderberger conclave, of course.
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And yet, despite her blowing the cover off this vast and powerful conspiracy, she can freely sell her books on Amazon and live in France unbothered.

Those super-dangerous extradimensional vampires who control the world are pretty sloppy, I'd say.
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PeZook wrote:And yet, despite her blowing the cover off this vast and powerful conspiracy, she can freely sell her books on Amazon and live in France unbothered.

Those super-dangerous extradimensional vampires who control the world are pretty sloppy, I'd say.
Clearly, she knows the secret of how to avoid them. And it's all detailed in her newest book for the low low price of $19.99. You too can protect yourself from the reverse vampires once you buy a copy and follow its instructions to the letter.
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Extradimentional vampires must be in a deal with her. Perhaps they make money off the book sales. ;)
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Ghost Rider wrote:Y'know Mike, you should make one. Put it under some false pen name and see if you can't get a flock of these idiots to believe this. :P

I mean, the level of sheer absurdity of this should slot these books into alternative fiction, but instead get slotted into New Age nonfiction.
If he did he'd need to donate the profits to charity lest he be tainted.
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It's like I've always said, these fringers are getting away relatively unanswered for their bullshit and we may just pay for it down the road. If my personal experience is any indicator (which it probably isn't, but anyways) a lot of people are being siphoned out of large traditional religions and instead of skepticism, are moving straight to fringe loony horseshit like this in numbers too small to notice right now, but well enough to cement themselves and create conditions that would accommodate a larger exodus out of mainstream religions very quickly. If so, it'll be harder to explain to the average schmo why their newfound security blankie is a sham when it wields scientific jargon so convincingly.

Maybe new agers won't turn out to be a huge threat, maybe they will keep to themselves. I don't want to give them the breathing space to find out, though.
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Ah, conspiracy theorists. I had a hobby of looking over them once. I learned something: If you try a theory out of the whole cloth, make sure it's utterly mundane. Only by building on existing theories can you advance into the bizarre. Consider the Philadelphia Experiment: What starts as a rumour about degaussing the hull to render it undetectable to magnetically-activated munitions begins to grow and evolve, becoming optical stealth, then teleportation, then time travel.. To the last incarnation I saw, where the ship is basically holding a hyperspatial rent in space and time open, intertwining it with the Montauk Project theory, with a lovely Bootstrap Paradox(The Eldridge emerges at the Montauk facility, because the facility is the point where all the time/space teleport R&D is done.. Which is because the survivors of the Philadelphia Project told people there will be a facility there doing those things).
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One of the the defining characteristics of conspiracy theories is their consistent refusal to accept the simplest possible explanation for something. It's an intellectual philosophy (if you can call it that) based on a sort of direct antithesis of Occam's Razor: never accept the simplest explanation, everything has to have "more to it than meets the eye", nothing is ever coincidence. So this doesn't surprise me at all.
observer_20000 wrote:Like I said in the venting thread though, I feel that most conspiracy theorists stick to their beliefs because it makes them feel smart.
To them, the rest of us have the "wool over our eyes", and aren't smart enough to see something blindingly obvious, like a secret society that's controlled the world for thousands of years.
I think that's precisely the appeal of conspiracy theories, or at least a good part of it. Conspiracy theorists believe that most of the population has been deceived, and only they were smart enough to see through it.
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PeZook wrote:And yet, despite her blowing the cover off this vast and powerful conspiracy, she can freely sell her books on Amazon and live in France unbothered.
Well, this is where a conspiracy theorist will probably tell you something along the lines of "the greatest trick the devil ever pulled is convincing everybody he doesn't exist." The interdimensional vampires don't have to stop her publishing because they've manipulated us to the point where we'll never believe the truth anyway.
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Junghalli wrote: Well, this is where a conspiracy theorist will probably tell you something along the lines of "the greatest trick the devil ever pulled is convincing everybody he doesn't exist." The interdimensional vampires don't have to stop her publishing because they've manipulated us to the point where we'll never believe the truth anyway.
It would be an excellent point, except she claims she was harassed and threatened while living in the US, but not in France.

So the vampires obviously think she needs to be silenced, but can't reach her in France for some reason.

Is France magical? Or maybe the Templar Knights protect her there?
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Junghalli wrote:One of the the defining characteristics of conspiracy theories is their consistent refusal to accept the simplest possible explanation for something. It's an intellectual philosophy (if you can call it that) based on a sort of direct antithesis of Occam's Razor: never accept the simplest explanation, everything has to have "more to it than meets the eye", nothing is ever coincidence.
My favourite is when you answer every stupid little question they have, and they give you the last, unanswerable whopper: "I don't buy it. It's too perfect". Jesus fucking Christ, you can actually give them a bulletproof argument and they will know it's wrong ... because it's bulletproof! You just can't win with these assholes.
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PeZook wrote:
So the vampires obviously think she needs to be silenced, but can't reach her in France for some reason.

Is France magical? Or maybe the Templar Knights protect her there?
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She starts talking about how, despite her best efforts, she could never tie together the last two thousand years of world history into any kind of coherent conspiracy theory. Try as she might to "connect the dots", they were all too often un-connectable. Groups that rose to power and seemed to control much of the wealth of the world were routinely toppled and replaced by other groups, with no sense whatsoever of any kind of deliberate "hand off" of power and wealth from one group to the other.
She concluded that there is only one possible answer: extradimensional beings.
Sooo close...she was sooo damn close. It's like she was inches away from screwing the lightbulb into the empy socket...but then threw it to the floor, jammed a fork up her ass, and started two-stepping to "Camptown Ladies".

And what is all this interdimensional shit? What the fuck does interdimensional mean? Everything besides singularities is interdimensional. Holy shit, I posess both width and length?!? It boggles the motherfucking mind, it does.
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Junghalli wrote:
PeZook wrote:And yet, despite her blowing the cover off this vast and powerful conspiracy, she can freely sell her books on Amazon and live in France unbothered.
Well, this is where a conspiracy theorist will probably tell you something along the lines of "the greatest trick the devil ever pulled is convincing everybody he doesn't exist." The interdimensional vampires don't have to stop her publishing because they've manipulated us to the point where we'll never believe the truth anyway.
He obviously did a poor job, since tons of people still believe in him
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Has anyone read Children of the Matrix by David Icke? It's unitentionally hilarious. The idea is that the royal family are in fact human-reptilian alien hybrids (the Illuminati), who are also directly responsible for the creation of ancient religions. Also, they eat babies.

Am I the only one who sees a vague pattern in the mentality between fundies, trektards, and consipiracy theorists? They always follow this same predictable pattern...
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Kanastrous wrote: It's the garlic.
I like my explanation of the Templar Knights better. Fits with their mindset, too.

Unless...it's the Garlic Templars!
Sooo close...she was sooo damn close. It's like she was inches away from screwing the lightbulb into the empy socket...but then threw it to the floor, jammed a fork up her ass, and started two-stepping to "Camptown Ladies".
You know...the most infuriating thing about this kind of reasoning is that these people think of themselves as better and more intelligent than the average "sheeple", while in fact being fucking stupid.

I mean, first year university logic course would tell you why her reasoning is flawed. Maybe logic should be taught in high school? And student who don't pass it should be failed mercilessly?
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Maybe logic should be taught in high school? And student who don't pass it should be failed mercilessly?
You don't have mathematical logic in the average uni program? :? We do. It has all the rules of logic in the course. No matter if you're an economist, chemist or historian, logic is a must.

Though the consequences of failing it should, indeed, be amplified IMHO :)
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The stupidity gets worse. This from an amazon reviewer which gave the book 5 stars.
Knight-Jadczyk's discussion of two distinct human races on Earth in her book would surely overwhelm the readers. How could humanity be consisted of two different races, one might ask. To describe the two races, the author has brought into this book the works of Boris Mouravieff, where "pre-adamic/adamic" concept is discovered, and of Fulcanelli on "Primitive Chiliasm." In short, the adamic human race have a "full set of DNA" and is connected "to the higher centers in place and functioning," while the pre-adamic human race "have no possibility of reaching the higher centers because DNA hardware isn't in place" (p. 154). But, the problem is this: we cannot tell a pre-adamic bring apart from an adamic being at face value because they are intermixed and the way to tell them apart is a keen and long observation. Knight-Jadczyk has elaborated on this:

"The DNA of these two races is so mixed that both can be found within the same families. Your brother, sister, mother, father, daughter, or son. Not somebody "other" across the world or across the street worshipping a different god or with a different skin color. It may be somebody you live with every day of your life, and if so, they have but one reason to be here, to drain, distract and deflect souled [or adamic] being from evolving. And it is important also to note that this cannot be "conscious." Such individuals are as little aware that they do NOT have "higher centers" as those who do except, perhaps, that the latter may feel something is "missing" in their lives." (p. 158)

Not everything is as what appears to be. The idea of two different races living among each other would surely shock the sleeping minds of the readers. It may be quite a challenge for one to 'detect' a pre-adamic being when observing other people. But, can we tell if we are pre-adamic beings ourselves? The author has further explained the difference between pre-adamic (or Organic Portals) and adamic races (or Souled Beings) and their place in our world in the fifth chapter of her book.
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Stas Bush wrote: You don't have mathematical logic in the average uni program? :? We do. It has all the rules of logic in the course. No matter if you're an economist, chemist or historian, logic is a must.
Of course we do ; I'm talking about high school. It's not something a fourth-year high school student would be unable to grasp, and benefits for society could be immesurable.
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