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Aunty wrote:Man-sized sea scorpion claw found

The immense fossilised claw of a 2.5m-long (8ft) sea scorpion has been described by European researchers.


The 390-million-year-old specimen was found in a German quarry, the journal Biology Letters reports.

The creature, which has been named Jaekelopterus rhenaniae, would have paddled in a river or swamp.

The size of the beast suggests that spiders, insects, crabs and similar creatures were much larger in the past than previously thought, the team says.

The claw itself measures 46cm - indicating its owner would have been longer even than the average-sized human.

Overall, the estimated size of the animal exceeds the record for any other sea scorpion (eurypterid) find by nearly 50cm.

The eurypterids are believed to be the extinct aquatic ancestors of modern land scorpions and possibly all arachnids (the class of animals that also includes spiders).

"The biggest scorpion today is nearly 30cm so that shows you how big this creature was," said Dr Simon Braddy from the University of Bristol, UK.

It was one of Dr Braddy's co-authors, Markus Poschmann, who made the discovery in the quarry near Prum in western Germany.

"I was loosening pieces of rock with a hammer and chisel when I suddenly realised there was a dark patch of organic matter on a freshly removed slab," he recalled.

"After some cleaning I could identify this as a small part of a large claw. Although I did not know if it was more complete or not, I decided to try and get it out.

"The pieces had to be cleaned separately, dried, and then glued back together. It was then put into a white plaster jacket to stabilise it."

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The species existed during a period in Earth history when oxygen levels in the atmosphere were much higher than today.

And it was those elevated levels, some palaeo-scientists believe, that may have helped drive the super-sized bodies of many of the invertebrates that existed at that time - monster millipedes, huge cockroaches, and jumbo dragonflies.

But Dr Braddy thinks the large scales may have had a lot to do with the absence early on of vertebrate predators. As they came on the scene, these animals would have eaten all the biggest prey specimens.

"The fact that you are big means you are more likely to be seen and to be taken for a tastier morsel," he told BBC News. "Evolution will not select for large size; you want to be small so you can hide away."

The scorpions are thought to have made their first scuttles on to land about 450 million years ago.

While some would have taken up a fully terrestrial existence, others like Jaekelopterus rhenaniae would have maintained an aquatic or semi-aquatic lifestyle.
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Is it only me that gets a giant (mental) hard on over giant insects? I wish we could have these things survive today and work for us like some giant army of giant armoured soldiers adapting to any environment. Fleets of giant dragonflies, giant centipedes and giant swimming scorpion things.

It'd be a giant success, I can tell. We just need to give them pure O2 respirators and hope they don't explode.
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It'd be a giant success, I can tell. We just need to give them pure O2 respirators and hope they don't explode.
I'm struck with the idea of making them fight each other in gladiatorial combat - with flame-throwers in a O2 heavy atmosphere :)
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Reading this, I just had "Nausicaa from the valey of the wind" flashback.
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Is it just me or does the present geological era suck ?

Everything was bigger and cooler from giant insects, sea monsters to the supercontinents and global oceans that existed before. History of livings things is like the LOTR the first few ages were the most grand.
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Sarevok wrote:Is it just me or does the present geological era suck ?

Everything was bigger and cooler from giant insects, sea monsters to the supercontinents and global oceans that existed before. History of livings things is like the LOTR the first few ages were the most grand.
Except they died off, and we survived... goes to show that bigger doesn't necessarily mean better.
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SilverWingedSeraph wrote:
Sarevok wrote:Is it just me or does the present geological era suck ?

Everything was bigger and cooler from giant insects, sea monsters to the supercontinents and global oceans that existed before. History of livings things is like the LOTR the first few ages were the most grand.
Except they died off, and we survived... goes to show that bigger doesn't necessarily mean better.
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I'm not arguing that point... I'm just saying, bigger doesn't always mean better. As a species, humans haven't been around long, this is true. But our evolutionary ancestors survived, when the dinosaurs and such did not. And if there's another extinction-level event, then small animals will once again likely survive where the larger ones like us may not. Hence, my statement that bigger isn't always necessarily better. Although it certainly is cooler, in some cases. :lol:
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Looks like we did more damage to Scorponok than we first thought.

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It's pretty damned awesome, but those claws look rather pun-

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Sarevok wrote:Is it just me or does the present geological era suck ?
Everything was bigger and cooler from giant insects, sea monsters to the supercontinents and global oceans that existed before. History of livings things is like the LOTR the first few ages were the most grand.
I'm not sure I'd really want to live on a planet with grand fauna, at least not before modern firearms were invented. Imagine having to worry about these "cool" eight foot scorpions lurking in the lake when you take a swim. To say nothing of T-rex coming to your village hungry for a snack.
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Watch Jackson's King Kong and enjoy the spider pit. I bought the guide to Skull Island's natural history for the creatures in that scene alone.

Everything is a carnivore on that small island.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:Watch Jackson's King Kong and enjoy the spider pit. I bought the guide to Skull Island's natural history for the creatures in that scene alone.

Everything is a carnivore on that small island.
That would require watching Jackson's King Kong, which is something akin to suggesting you take a good sharp pair of scissors and jam them into your stomach.
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Oh lordy, it's not that bad. Skip the first hour of setting the scene (we get it, NYC of the '30s sucked shit) and get on to the killin' and it's all fun.

Plus, Andy Serkis and the meat weasel Carnictis sordicus. :P
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:Oh lordy, it's not that bad. Skip the first hour of setting the scene (we get it, NYC of the '30s sucked shit) and get on to the killin' and it's all fun.

Plus, Andy Serkis and the meat weasel Carnictis sordicus. :P
Are you kidding me? "Skip the first hour of the movie" and it's not that bad? What about all the poorly edited drawn out scenes which lingered on forever (that shit barely flied in Lord of the Rings, which was SUPPOSED to have that sort of pacing), or the baffling lack of continuity from one scene to the next, or the retarded and gratuitous action sequences (come on, THREE tyranosauruses, all still trying to get Ann and Kong whilst hanging from vines in a massive cleft, which, incidently disappears entirely when they reach the ground?). Or the fact that Jack Black is one of the title characters and manages to be a bargain basement Jim Carrey the entire movie?

Yes, it was that damn bad. It was a shitty movie and what was worse it was 3 hour long shitty movie with maybe an hour of actual content.
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If O2 levels were much higher then, does that mean that in the future, O2 levels will be much lower than they are now? In the long run, is aerobic life on Earth going to be sustainable?
Is it just me or does the present geological era suck ?
If I'm right, it's going to get even suckier, with mice-sized creatures being the largest viable land animals.
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King Kong also has the infamous Rubber People syndrome, where people can be flung around like rag dolls and suffer no injury at all as long as someone catches them before they hit the ground. Transformers did that too, but that was a big noisy summer popcorn movie, not a pretentious Academy Award wannabe.
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Like I say, not that bad. I didn't state it was good either, but I like the random exploring of the island and OTT fights and Jack Black plays a fine twat I really loved to hate.

I only really watched it for the creatures and effects, because I sure as hell don't need to see it for the story which the original did far better for the length of time needed too.
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Darth Wong wrote:King Kong also has the infamous Rubber People syndrome, where people can be flung around like rag dolls and suffer no injury at all as long as someone catches them before they hit the ground.
Not to mention those huge-ass, undoubtedly incredibly heavy animals tossing each other around like rag dolls with no ill effects. You know, I'm pretty sure if you subject an elephant to the kind of abuse Kong took in those fights it aint getting back up, dusting itself off, and continuing on its way.
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Who gives a fuck? Everyone knows the whole concept of a small island filled with giant creatures that somehow are unaffected by their size is crap. You're supposed to suspend your disbelief and appreciate the awesomeness of a gorilla putting the hurt on a trio of Tyrannosaurs.

Really, if you expected scientific accuracy in every movie, the fantasy and sci-fi genres would be nearly empty. Hell, this whole board is based around a Sci-Fi movie with absolute bullshit science.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:Is it only me that gets a giant (mental) hard on over giant insects?
I think giant monsters are a powerful part of the human psyche; every ancient culture has them. Dinosaurs and Carboniferous insects are so cool because holy shit dude these things actually walked the earth.
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NeoGoomba wrote:Looks like we did more damage to Scorponok than we first thought.

Our weapons can hurt them, AND NOW THEY KNOW IT
I guess that lava he fell into four million years ago must've done a good job preserving his carcass. Maybe this is what his Transmetal form would've looked like.
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