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"Gays deserve to be executed" - Iranian politician

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Gays should be hanged, says Iranian minister
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Homosexuals deserve to be executed or tortured and possibly both, an Iranian leader told British MPs during a private meeting at a peace conference, The Times has learnt.

Mohsen Yahyavi is the highest-ranked politician to admit that Iran believes in the death penalty for homosexuality after a spate of reports that gay youths were being hanged.

President Ahmadinejad, questioned by students in New York two months ago about the executions, dodged the issue by suggesting that there were no gays in his country.

Britain regularly challenges Iran about its gay hangings, stonings and executions of adulterers and perceived moral criminals, Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) papers show.

The latest row involves a woman hanged this June in the town of Gorgan after becoming pregnant by her brother. He was absolved after expressing his remorse. Britain said that this demonstrated the unequal treatment of men and women in law and breached Iran’s pledge to restrict the death penalty to the most serious crimes.

A series of reported executions of gays, including two underage boys whose public hanging was posted on the internet, has alarmed human rights campaigners.

The Pet Shop Boys dedicated Fundamental, their Grammy-nominated album, to Mahmoud Asqari and Ayad Marhouni, who were hanged in Justice Square in Mashhad in 2005. Graphic photographs of the execution of the youths, who were under 18 when arrested, were released by the Iranian Students News Agency.

Gay rights groups in Britain, such as Outrage!, accuse Iran of cloaking executions for homosexuality with bogus charges for more serious crimes.

Under the Freedom of Information Act, the FCO released papers to The Times about the death penalty being used in Iran for homosexuality, adultery and sex outside marriage.

Minutes taken by an official describe a meeting between British and Iranian MPs at the Inter-Parliamentary Union, a peace body, in May. When the Britons raised the hangings of Asqari and Marhouni, the leader of the Iranian delegation, Mr Yahyavi, a member of his parliament’s energy committee, was unflinching. He “explained that according to Islam gays and lesbianism were not permitted”, the record states. “He said that if homosexual activity is in private there is no problem, but those in overt activity should be executed [he initially said tortured but changed it to executed]. He argued that homosexuality is against human nature and that humans are here to reproduce. Homosexuals do not reproduce.”

Nicole Pichet, a researcher who also took notes of the gathering, told The Times that the discussion began with British MPs discussing the underage gay hangings. Mr Yahyavi responded by saying homosexuality was to blame for a lot of diseases such as Aids.

Ann Clwyd, the Labour MP and head of Britain’s delegation, said yesterday: “It is of great concern that these attitudes persist and we made it clear what we felt.”

Iran, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, the United Arab Emirates, Yemen and Nigeria apply the death penalty for homosexuality, according to the International Lesbian and Gay Association.

Sharia’s victims

2005

— Homosexuals Farbod Mostaar and Ahmad Chooka sentenced to death. Iran said Chooka had kidnapped, knifed and raped a student

— A woman called Soghra was sentenced to stoning for adultery and being an accomplice to her husband’s murder

— Two men executed in public after being found guilty of a homosexual relationship. A newspaper said they were convicted of sodomy, rape and kidnapping

— Zhila Izadi, 13, sentenced to stoning after becoming pregnant with her brother’s child

2006

— Malek Ghorbany sentenced to stoning for adultery

— Leila Qomi sentenced to stoning for adultery and assisting a man who killed her husband. He received 100 lashes

2007

— Jafar Kiana stoned for adultery. His female lover Mokarrameh Ebrahimi sentenced to the same fate

Source: Foreign and Commonwealth Office documents released under Freedom of Information Act
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Actually, last I checked we bought oil off them.

Obviously we need to glass Iran, because this guy is being mean. Who's with me? Mr. Cheney? Dubya? Clinton?
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Ah, the religion of peace strikes again. I can just feel the peacefulness all the way across the pond.
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Yes. I can feeol the peace as well. The peace and quite of at least a few hundred million closet doors being shut, their inhabitants huddled in abject terror and passing notes and...other things... through holes drilled in the wall.

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The sad thing is, I simply don't expect any better of them anymore. Rather than outrage, I can't muster more than a resigned "well, that was to be expected". These fuckers hang people because some stupid book says they should, and no-one seems to be able to do a damned thing about it. Sometimes I think Orwell got it slightly wrong and the future is not a boot stamping on a face, but a head banging into a desk, forever.
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The really sad thing is that right-wing ideologues like Dinesh D'Souza think that we in the West should be more like the Iranians. This kind of shit is Dinesh D'Souza's own private vision of utopia.
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But I thought there were no gays in Iran. Who are they executing, figments of their imagination?

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The latest row involves a woman hanged this June in the town of Gorgan after becoming pregnant by her brother. He was absolved after expressing his remorse.
So he says he's sorry and is free to go while she is executed - or am I reading the absolved wrong ? :shock:

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Raesene wrote:
The latest row involves a woman hanged this June in the town of Gorgan after becoming pregnant by her brother. He was absolved after expressing his remorse.
So he says he's sorry and is free to go while she is executed - or am I reading the absolved wrong ? :shock:
That's the progressive Islamic republic of Iran for you, with its very progressive justice system.

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fgalkin2 wrote:But I thought there were no gays in Iran. Who are they executing, figments of their imagination?

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Raesene wrote:
The latest row involves a woman hanged this June in the town of Gorgan after becoming pregnant by her brother. He was absolved after expressing his remorse.
So he says he's sorry and is free to go while she is executed - or am I reading the absolved wrong ? :shock:
That's quite typical of primitive Abrahamic religious thought. You can still see that kind of attitude in the Old Testament too.
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