Halo vs. Half-Life Or, the Chief and the Doctor

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Halo vs. Half-Life Or, the Chief and the Doctor

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Black Mesa, 200X.

A certain theoretical physicist has just inadvertently caused a resonance cascade through the use of highly suspect science. As he ricochets between planes, he catches the attention of Nihilanth, who, not taking a nap this time, notices the peculiar properties this human seems to possess, and, not wanting there to be any particular trouble, uses his ill-defined vast mental powers to divert the final resting place of this troublemaker to another dimension. Unfortunately for our gigantic fiend, this causes the current occupant of that space to arrive back in the test chamber in Black Mesa, where his green armor finishes its power-up routines. The G-Man, unhappy with Nihilanth's tampering, but intrigued, uses his also nebulously specified powers to enact a few changes in both dimensions.

On the Pillar of Autumn, Gordon is rather confused by the soldiers calling him Master Chief. He is unfortunately unable to correct them, as he seems to never talk. Steeling himself, though, he proceeds as summoned to the bridge. Once there, Captain Keyes gives him a pistol and marching orders, as well as downloading Cortana into his hazard suit.

In Black Mesa, the Chief walks out the door of the ruined test chamber, where some injured scientists implore him to seek help on the surface. John-117 is as confused as his geeky counterpart, but decides to help out these people. He can look for a way home when all this madness is done.

So, will Gordon Freeman be able to maneuver his way past the Covenant, discover the secret of the Halos, outfight the Flood, and destroy the enormous ring? Assume that his natural ability to instantly figure out how to use any given weapon or vehicle carries over.

Will Master Chief be able to make it past Xen creatures, launch the satellite, save the scientists, and destroy the giant headed floating baby?
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Again, the Chief will also be able to use any weapons he runs across, since they are basically less advanced versions of the guns he already uses.
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From what I know of the games (not having played either), the SPARTAN suit is of the rather wankish Starship Troopers variety, whereas the HEV suit is a (somewhat) more realistic design... So I'd say that Freeman is going to be in some deep trouble.
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I'd have to second that. The Chief's armor can sustain a near infinite amount of damage, as long as it is spread out between recharging cycles. Dr.Freeman, on the other hand, makes heavy use of rechargers and medipacks, so would quickly run out of supplies in the face of determined opposition.

This makes a certain amount of sense, given the different oppositions the two heroes face. The Chief faces (a) a fanatic, but well armed and organized alien forces with superiour technology and numbers, as well as (b) a hive minded parasitic organism that turns the hosts not just into zombies, but tough, strong, and weapon using fiends. Dr.Freeman's foes, on the other hand, are just as dazed and confused as he is by the resounance cascade.
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Gordon Freeman needs to find some cloaking devices (or whatever they're called in 'Halo') and some overshields, and make liberal use of both power-ups to survive on the Pillar of Autumn. Otherwise, he'll be dead before he reaches the escape pod.
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If Freeman has an assload of skill and luck, i.e., he kills an Elite-- preferably a Spec Ops Elite with a cloaking device-- and adapts its shield generator to work on his HEV suit, he might have a chance.
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Eh, the HEV suit runs on batteries. The SPARTAN suit appears to have a fusion generator or something equally ridiculous. I doubt that the HEV suit could power any sort of advanced shield generator.

Not sure about the cloaking device, but there might be compatibility issues with it. (Again, never played the games.)

The only way I could see this working would be if Freeman has the smarts to put some wonky weapon together out of military/Covenant spare parts, which I don't really see happening. He may be brilliant but he's not a Motie engineer.
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For some reason, my first thought on seeing the thread title was "The Doctor would just use the Sonic Screwdriver to deactivate the armours power source...."

never mind, heh.
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Gullible Jones wrote:From what I know of the games (not having played either), the SPARTAN suit is of the rather wankish Starship Troopers variety, whereas the HEV suit is a (somewhat) more realistic design... So I'd say that Freeman is going to be in some deep trouble.
The Mjolnir armour isn't nearly as wankish as Starship Troopers combat suits, but it's able to survive quite a lot more punishment than the HEV suit (Freeman couldn't have survived that two kilometre drop at the start of Halo 3, for example).

The Chief can almost certainly cope with anything he meets in Black Mesa though, assuming he can fit that hulking 7'2 frame through all those poky air vents, of course.

Freeman won't be so lucky, even if he survives contact with the Covenant, he doesn't have quite the same level of NBC sealing, so the Flood will infect him.
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Hmm. I take it that Freeman's HEV suit is missing the helmet (as shown on the game's cover)?
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Presumably not; headcrabs can't couple with him.
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And he was able to breath back in Xen.
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In that case the Flood might not be so much trouble (AFAIK). Not that that matters, since the suit won't protect him against anything the Covenant can throw at him.
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Freeman's suit can stand up to multiple gunshots of the 9mm variety. Per Halo's own Canon rules, "Legendary" mode ingame represents roughly how tough and power the Covenant are in real life.

Master Chief's uber shields are a whole lot less powerful. in Legendary. You very quickly die in Legendary from about any enemy. We don't have an equivalent statement for Half-life. But even in it's hardest mode Freeman suit is able to withstand RPG hits(Only one mind you) and a full clip plus of whatever rounds the SMG uses.

Recharging shields gives Master Chief a huge edge to be sure, his suits gives him a second massive edge(40mph+ Speeds, ability to lift 2+ tons?) The question is if Freeman can survive the Halo, not if Master Chief can survive Black Mesa. Minus a few foes(The tentacles, the giant Xen alien whatever it was called, and Alien Soldiers) Master Chief should have a easy enough cakewalk. Headcrab's and Headcrab zombies would disintegrate under Chief's fists. The marines would need a full clip just to take his shields, and considering MC's speed, that's going to be tough. Considering no marine is likley to live long enough to realize the whole recharging shield bit, they won't present to much of a danger assuming the Chief plays it smart. Leaving just environmental hazards(Laughed off by the suit, it can survive space and 2km drops+) and the high end Xen aliens as threats.


Meanwhile Freeman needs to deal with the Flood, and the Elites. Much harder to do. Also, Freeman can't flip the Puma(;)) so he's most likley doomed to walk the surface of Halo forever.

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There are only a few things in Black Mesa that stand a chance against the MC. This might be one of them.
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What about the switches and levers? Everyone knows that without Gordon Freeman's degree in theoretical physics he wouldn't have been able to manipulate them correctly.

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I do kind of wonder how well the Combine would stand against the MC.
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I'd love to see the G-Man get rid of the damn Flood, or at least make their lives a little more interesting.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:I'd love to see the G-Man get rid of the damn Flood, or at least make their lives a little more interesting.
With the G-Man around, would the flood even be released? He has interfered with other humans around gordon before, so he might be able to persuade the marines/keyes to not release them. Or he might not, depending on how much of an advantage the flood were to the chief and the human forces overall.
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He's never put Freeman in a situation where he wouldn't have a fighting chance. If the Flood are that much of a threat, he'd probably interfere and make it more likely he could achieve whatever goal is needed. Or at the very least given him the needed tools to rival the Master Chief.
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Steel wrote:With the G-Man around, would the flood even be released? He has interfered with other humans around gordon before, so he might be able to persuade the marines/keyes to not release them.
IIRC, the Flood were released by the Covenant as they were searching for a Forerunner... something... on Halo.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:He's never put Freeman in a situation where he wouldn't have a fighting chance. If the Flood are that much of a threat, he'd probably interfere and make it more likely he could achieve whatever goal is needed. Or at the very least given him the needed tools to rival the Master Chief.
The G-Man will give Gordon Freeman a MJOLNIR Mark V armor and a smart AI? :wink:
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I've never played these games but... Explain to me why the G-man wouldn't turn his attentions upon Master Chief, now that he's in Freeman's original place? Why would he concern himself with Freeman, now that Freeman is in the Halo universe?
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Sidewinder wrote:
Admiral Valdemar wrote:He's never put Freeman in a situation where he wouldn't have a fighting chance. If the Flood are that much of a threat, he'd probably interfere and make it more likely he could achieve whatever goal is needed. Or at the very least given him the needed tools to rival the Master Chief.
The G-Man will give Gordon Freeman a MJOLNIR Mark V armor and a smart AI? :wink:
Freeman already has Cortana downloaded into his HEV suit as per OP.
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Vendetta wrote: The Mjolnir armour isn't nearly as wankish as Starship Troopers combat suits, but it's able to survive quite a lot more punishment than the HEV suit (Freeman couldn't have survived that two kilometre drop at the start of Halo 3, for example).
How is that less wank then Starship Troops when Mobile Infantry suits need parachutes to do the same damn thing? 2km might as well be a drop from orbit; the terminal velocity will be about the same.
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