NFL 08 Thread

[Flagg]

Kornhauser or whatever the hell his name is can shove it up his fucking cornhole. "Bill Bellicheck is evil incarnate, he runs up the score, he cheats, he's arrogant, he snubs other coaches, &c. &c."

FUCK. YOU.

He's a damned good coach who certainly doesn't deserve your stupid ass criticizing him constantly. He's not the "villain" of the Pats dynasty, so you can just shove it up your ass, you worthless excuse for a commentator.

He's a fucking cheater. That's all I need to know.

And worse, he's a stupid cheater.

[Qwerty 42]

Wow. I don't know what Philadelphia and Baltimore are doing, but New England looks suddenly very, very mortal.

[FSTargetDrone]

He's a fucking cheater. That's all I need to know.

And worse, he's a stupid cheater.

Damn right. I don't care about his personality, or whether he "runs up the score." It's one thing if it's a Pop Warner game or something, but fuckin' who cares if one NFL team team blows the other away? If the other team is offended by it, well, score some damn points.

Wow. I don't know what Philadelphia and Baltimore are doing, but New England looks suddenly very, very mortal.

And Baltimore looks like they just might hold on for the win. It's 24-20 Ravens with about 3:40 to go. It's a lot of time still, but Baltimore has been in front or at worst tied most of the game, at least for all of the game I've seen so far.

[Flagg]

Yeah, the people bitching about running up the score are fucking whiny bitches who should find a hobby more inclined to their sensabilities. Like knitting or beach combing.

You put as many fucking points on the board as you can. That's their fucking job.

[FSTargetDrone]

And so we agree.

Anyway, we've got 1:00 to go in the 4th with the Men in Black still in front 24-20. And some silly penalties to boot from the Ravens. Patriots have the ball and are driving from the 13.

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Wow, NE just pulled ahead, 26-24, but flag on the play...

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Two, 15-yard penalties against the Ravens. Someone roughed someone up after the play and then threw and official's flag into the stands?

And there's a review on the Pats' touchdown.

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It's a touchdown after review. 26-24 Patriots.

Offsides on the Ravens. That's the THIRD penalty here.

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And the kick is good. 27-24 Pats. 44 seconds to go.

Now we have to see about these 3 penalties on the Ravens...

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14 seconds to go. Both teams just used their remaining time out.

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Game over after a hell of a throw and a catch just outside the goal. Now it's all over but the recriminations.

Patriots win, 27-24.

[Kuja]

What a massive fuckup on the Ravens' coach's part. And what a game, right down to final second.

[Darth Fanboy]

Fucking generous officiating for the PAtriots on that last drive of theirs, but the Ravens shot temselves in the foot even worse. Pa-thet-ic.

[FSTargetDrone]

What a massive fuckup on the Ravens' coach's part. And what a game, right down to final second.

I think they blew about 20 seconds trying to figure out what the hell to do before they tossed their last timeout.

Hell of a catch. Too bad it was a few yards short.

[Kuja]

What a massive fuckup on the Ravens' coach's part. And what a game, right down to final second.

I think they blew about 20 seconds trying to figure out what the hell to do before they tossed their last timeout.

Another fuckup.

And you know, I can't really pan 57 (whatever his name was) on that penalty. If my coach made such a stupid fucking mistake I'd be seeing red too.

[Falkenhayn]

The Ravens won that game 3 times. The Patriots lead a charmed life.

[Kuja]

The last two minutes of that game were just one giant heart attack.

[Falkenhayn]

And how. What a fucking heartbreaker. Bart Scott was in tears being taken to the locker room.

If Rex Ryan had just trusted his men.

[FSTargetDrone]

Heck of a finish, no matter who you you were rootin' for. I have no stake in either team, but it was fun to watch.

And Brady, please wrap up the press conference. The background is giving me seizures. Can't.. change.. channel...

[Havok]

And how. What a fucking heartbreaker. Bart Scott was in tears being taken to the locker room.

If Rex Ryan had just trusted his men.

Hey it wasn't just that play, and technically an assistant coach isn't allowed to call a time out anyway, so that should have never been allowed.

The play that really killed them was the 4 and 1 that they stopped them on, BUT NE false started and since you can't refuse that particular penalty, they got another shot.

[Havok]

Kornhauser or whatever the hell his name is can shove it up his fucking cornhole. "Bill Bellicheck is evil incarnate, he runs up the score, he cheats, he's arrogant, he snubs other coaches, &c. &c."

FUCK. YOU.

He's a damned good coach who certainly doesn't deserve your stupid ass criticizing him constantly. He's not the "villain" of the Pats dynasty, so you can just shove it up your ass, you worthless excuse for a commentator.

Calm down sparky. Kornhauser is just providing commentary. He doesn't actually think that. (watch PTI) He is merely commenting on what quite a few people around the NFL are thinking and feeling, players coaches and fans alike.

[Elfdart]

And you know, I can't really pan 57 (whatever his name was) on that penalty. If my coach made such a stupid fucking mistake I'd be seeing red too.

Bart Scott knew his team was getting zebraed to death. The refs would have flagged the Ravens for a dozen phantom holding calls if that's what it took to get the Patriots that last touchdown.

Brian Billick won't get fired, but if I were in his shoes I'd want a morning after pill immediately.

[Havok]

Apparently, this is what had Bart Scott all hot and bothered and not the play calling.

[Flagg]

And you know, I can't really pan 57 (whatever his name was) on that penalty. If my coach made such a stupid fucking mistake I'd be seeing red too.

Bart Scott knew his team was getting zebraed to death. The refs would have flagged the Ravens for a dozen phantom holding calls if that's what it took to get the Patriots that last touchdown.

No shit. I expecially loved how the guy was juggling the ball out of bounds and they upheld it as a TD after review.

[Falkenhayn]

And how. What a fucking heartbreaker. Bart Scott was in tears being taken to the locker room.

If Rex Ryan had just trusted his men.

Hey it wasn't just that play, and technically an assistant coach isn't allowed to call a time out anyway, so that should have never been allowed.

The play that really killed them was the 4 and 1 that they stopped them on, BUT NE false started and since you can't refuse that particular penalty, they got another shot.

That's Bullshit. The whole point of being able to decline a penalty is so the other side dosen't derive an advantage from their breaking the rules. What kind of Einstein came up with that one?

Second, how did Matt Light go the Pro-bowl last year, disregarding the fact that he's BB's little buddy? I thought elite left tackles weren't supposed to give up pressures, knock downs and sacks with that kind of regularity against...decent defenses.

[Flagg]

And how. What a fucking heartbreaker. Bart Scott was in tears being taken to the locker room.

If Rex Ryan had just trusted his men.

Hey it wasn't just that play, and technically an assistant coach isn't allowed to call a time out anyway, so that should have never been allowed.

The play that really killed them was the 4 and 1 that they stopped them on, BUT NE false started and since you can't refuse that particular penalty, they got another shot.

That's Bullshit. The whole point of being able to decline a penalty is so the other side dosen't derive an advantage from their breaking the rules. What kind of Einstein came up with that one?

Second, how did Matt Light go the Pro-bowl last year, disregarding the fact that he's BB's little buddy? I thought elite left tackles weren't supposed to give up pressures, knock downs and sacks with that kind of regularity against...decent defenses.

Doesn't a false start happen before the play, though?

[Darth Fanboy]

Doesn't a false start happen before the play, though?

Yep, the play was technically dead before it started.

[Darth Fanboy]

Apparently, this is what had Bart Scott all hot and bothered and not the play calling.

Ummm no, that article is talking about Samari Rolle. Scott was pissed about officiating.

[Falkenhayn]

Doesn't a false start happen before the play, though?

What's the relevance? You can't call two consecutive time outs before a kick, or else its 15 yards and an auto 1st. The NFL has decided before that certain actions in discrete situations deserve special penalty.

If you decide to go for it on fourth down, but commit a penalty, the other team ought to be able to decide whether you ought to talk a penalty in yards, or turn the ball over. To compel someone to take the yards and give the offending team a penalty in yards ignores case-by-case circumstances which the whole "accept" or "decline" choice is designed to address.

[Master of Ossus]

Doesn't a false start happen before the play, though?

What's the relevance? You can't call two consecutive time outs before a kick, or else its 15 yards and an auto 1st. The NFL has decided before that certain actions in discrete situations deserve special penalty.

If you decide to go for it on fourth down, but commit a penalty, the other team ought to be able to decide whether you ought to talk a penalty in yards, or turn the ball over. To compel someone to take the yards and give the offending team a penalty in yards ignores case-by-case circumstances which the whole "accept" or "decline" choice is designed to address.

But a false start, like a delay of game, actually ends the play before it starts--so there IS no play to begin with.

There are penalties (offsides, illegal formation) that continue through the play, because they technically occur when the ball is snapped. However, penalties that occur before the ball is snapped prevent a play from even starting (also why encroachment results in whistling the play dead). It was the right call, but it's very unfortunate for the Ravens, who caught NO breaks in that game.

[Flagg]

Doesn't a false start happen before the play, though?

What's the relevance? You can't call two consecutive time outs before a kick, or else its 15 yards and an auto 1st. The NFL has decided before that certain actions in discrete situations deserve special penalty.

If you decide to go for it on fourth down, but commit a penalty, the other team ought to be able to decide whether you ought to talk a penalty in yards, or turn the ball over. To compel someone to take the yards and give the offending team a penalty in yards ignores case-by-case circumstances which the whole "accept" or "decline" choice is designed to address.

Because there was no advantage gained by the Patriots. The were set back 5 yards. It's not like they got to do the play over, because the play never started.

As far as the 2 timeouts before a kick thing goes, that's fuckign self explanatory.