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Chavez, Master of all time!!

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Mayur Pahilajani - AHN News Writer

Caracas, Venezuela (AHN) - The clocks around Venezuela will be rolled back for half an hour from Sunday.

"I don't care if they call me crazy, the new time will go ahead," President Hugo Chavez told reporters Saturday, according to UPI reports.

President Chavez said he wanted to move the clock back as he believes that those 30 minutes can improve the performance of the country, the BBC reported.

But some analysts claimed that even if people wake up early, it may not bring a big change to the country.

Other critics said that Chavez just simply wanted to create a different time zone other than the United States, according to BBC.

The new time will shift the country by four-and-half hours behind GMT. The step was announced in August but it was delayed two times since then.

Science and Technology Minister Hector Nacarro told BBC, "I see it as a very positive thing that while there is light we can be in it."
Sooo how long 'till he names April after his mother?
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So Venezuela will be just like Newfoundland, where the clocks are half an hour off from everyone else. :)
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I think the more pertinent question is how long more before he decides to create the Chavez calender. What's his favourite number?
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But this will put Venezuela in a different time zone from Cuba!

Apparently Hugo and Fidel are having some sort of falling out.

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Half an hour? Why not one hour? That's how everyone else does Daylight Savings Time.
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Winston Blake wrote:Half an hour? Why not one hour? That's how everyone else does Daylight Savings Time.
Not everyone. I can think of a few places in Asia and even Australia that don't.
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Ubiquitous wrote:
Winston Blake wrote:Half an hour? Why not one hour? That's how everyone else does Daylight Savings Time.
Not everyone. I can think of a few places in Asia and even Australia that don't.
Oh ok, my mistake.
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I wonder if MS and other software vendors will be as diligent patching systems for, what is effectively, the new Venezuelan time zone as they were for the US recent change?

Interesting how such concerns rarely enter into politicians minds when they do those stupid grand gestures.
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AHN wrote:Other critics said that Chavez just simply wanted to create a different time zone other than the United States, according to BBC.
But no part of the United States is in Venezuela's current time zone anyway, unless the US annexed New Brunswick while I wasn't looking.
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I wonder if MS and other software vendors will be as diligent patching systems for, what is effectively, the new Venezuelan time zone as they were for the US recent change?
I doubt the Venezuelan government and PDVSA care for Microsoft specifically very much; as far as I know, they have massively migrated to Open Source since January 2005 when the Open Source Law was enacted. By the start of this year their operating systems are ~50% open source, and I think the trend will continue.
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I wonder if MS and other software vendors will be as diligent patching systems for, what is effectively, the new Venezuelan time zone as they were for the US recent change?
I doubt the Venezuelan government and PDVSA care for Microsoft specifically very much; as far as I know, they have massively migrated to Open Source since January 2005 when the Open Source Law was enacted. By the start of this year their operating systems are ~50% open source, and I think the trend will continue.
Thats government - what about the private sector and private citizens?

And for open source applications, I wonder how they will fix it and will they send the patch upstream or just fix it locally?
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I wonder how they will fix it and will they send the patch upstream or just fix it locally?
They have an institute which develops Venezuela-specific Open Source products and patches for systems, IIRC. I guess it will be tasked with making this patch. After all, it's easy - not really lots of work.
Thats government - what about the private sector and private citizens?
I doubt the government has the right to dictate which type of software they use. So they're on their own. However, I doubt half-an-hour is much of a deal. People can re-set that locally on their systems if it's a PC, and net admins for whole networks, in a matter of minutes or so, no? :?
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These days most computers synchronise with an Internet based time server, so probably no - or, at least, they would have to shut down that ability and you'd be surprised how many computers, especially older ones being run into the ground that are likely in countries at that level of development, have bad batteries and thus very inaccurate clocks that gets hidden by the syncs.

MS Venezuela does exist though, but I wonder if they have access to Windows source code to make a fix. Also, I wander if everyone will get the fix in one of the updates (like with the US changes) or will it be a manual download locally.
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Netko wrote:I wonder if MS and other software vendors will be as diligent patching systems for, what is effectively, the new Venezuelan time zone as they were for the US recent change?
Microsoft has already released a patch for XP and newer operating systems; older ones can be manually modified via registry key.
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Wow, Chavez is worse than this guy:

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phongn wrote:
Netko wrote:I wonder if MS and other software vendors will be as diligent patching systems for, what is effectively, the new Venezuelan time zone as they were for the US recent change?
Microsoft has already released a patch for XP and newer operating systems; older ones can be manually modified via registry key.
Nice to hear they're on top of it. I was half-expecting them to show less interest and responsiveness compared to the similar situation in the US - its nice to see them really acting internationally. Do you know if they deployed the patch via Windows Update to all PCs or is it a download from the local site?
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Ghetto edit: Ah, found it - apparently its a hotfix (manual download) for now, but is planned to be rolled into the next SP.
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Fuckin Newfies, and now the fuckin Chavezites....why can't they stick to a real timezone instead of these bullshit half-assed "oh ho ho we're a half hour off!" ones? Fuckin India does it too.
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Executor32 wrote:Wow, Chavez is worse than this guy:
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A fitting thread title, BTW.
That's exactly who I had in mind when I created the thread.
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Dude, when I'm dictator of my own nation, we're totally gonna be 15 minutes off from a major time zone.
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