Need Bat-Man help.

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » 2007-12-19 06:44am

havokeff wrote:
RogueIce wrote: Oh, and if you're going to draw Robin, please for the love of Ra's al Ghul give him pants.
And no way dude. Dick Grayson gets undies.

Yeah, Batman needs easy access.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2007-12-19 07:35am

No no no! Robin needs a G-string and nipple clips.

Phantasee · Post by **Phantasee** » 2007-12-19 01:42pm

Batman wrote:
Phantasee wrote:Ears, also, I don't think his jawline should be so pronounced. Make it blend into the shadows more, like the mask is a fabric draped over his face and less like it's form fitted latex (B&R).
You might want to elaborate on that because so far it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. What has the jawline got to do with the mask being fabric as opposed to form fitted latex when the mask doesn't COVER the jawline to begin with?

Then his mask should cover his jawline. I'm thinking of mail armour, with the bit that covers the head? The way it drapes down the side of the face. What I'm talking about is that whatever material the mask is made of, the side bits should go down from his cheek in a less form-fitted manner.

You should know what I'm talking about...

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2007-12-19 07:16pm

I don't see why. Not only is the cowl NOT made of chainmail but WHATEVER it's made of (both in the comics and havokeff's sketches) it apparently manages to go down from my cheeks in a form-fitting manner just fine.

The Cooler King · Post by **The Cooler King** » 2007-12-20 09:18am

I love the design sketches. Good form, good anatomy; my only complaint (and you've stated it's a stylistic choice, so it's not really a complaint) is the ears on the cowl.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2007-12-20 11:32pm

I think the drawings and style is very good. But I think your Batman is too bulky. He shouldn't be that musclebound; he has to be agile and stealthy. Think more Charleton Helston from the Apes movies, than Arnold Scharzenegger!

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2007-12-21 09:16pm

Upon looking at the sketches again I have to say Poe's right. Even Timmverse me, which especially in the later incarnations is... rather broad across the shoulders isn't built that massive.
I realize I probably DID look like that at some point or other in the comics (Valen even TIM did) but it doesn't seem appropriate.

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2008-01-09 03:48am

So this is the Bat-Man I think I am going to run with. Less bulky, but still muscular. Straightened out the ears. I like the damn phone dial belt buckle. Comments?

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2008-01-09 07:14am

The nose looks a bit off...it's too "big" or something. There's something off with the upper half of his face.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-01-09 11:21am

Yeah, the nose is protruding too much.

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2008-01-09 01:24pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:Yeah, the nose is protruding too much.

Done intentionally. It stays. Anything else?

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2008-01-09 02:09pm

I think it looks great. If you pushed me, the only thing I might question is the multitude of pouches on his belt.

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2008-01-09 03:44pm

Lord Poe wrote:I think it looks great. If you pushed me, the only thing I might question is the multitude of pouches on his belt.

Well he has to have room for the Bat-Shark repellent.

So more or less pouches?

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2008-01-09 04:08pm

havokeff wrote:Well he has to have room for the Bat-Shark repellent. So more or less pouches?

Less. Especially around the hip area. Remember: he has to have as much free movement as possible. Experiment with different shaped pouches, too. Maybe some pouches have specialized things in them, like carrying vials of...stuff.

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » 2008-01-09 05:48pm

I like it myself. I'm not big on the tall ears, but that's relatively minor. It's otherwise very good. Feels kind of oldschool, with the fabric costume, but has a sense of the real because of the phone pouches.

Jack Bauer · Post by **Jack Bauer** » 2008-01-09 10:00pm

Looks great. I like the longer ears, it gives Bats a retro feel, not to mention he looks more intimidating. He now has a real "demon" look, which is a plus in my book.

All in all, this is what I would imagine the Timmverse JLU Batman to look like in a comic rendition.

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2008-01-09 10:14pm

His nose looks less like a nose and more like a beak. Which is to say that it looks flat.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2008-01-09 10:51pm

Zablorg wrote:His nose looks less like a nose and more like a beak. Which is to say that it looks flat.

It can either look like a beak or flat. Make up your mind.

WRT the utility belt, the problem is not the NUMBER of pockets, it's the SIZE of them. And while the current comics utility belt looks pretty much like that if you want realistic that thing probably WOULD get in the way (and STILL be incapable of holding the lightsecond or so of rope I apparently have about my person at any given time).
I add my distaste for curved ears to the already registered one for canted out ears but if you're set on it, I think it works.
And I don't care how much you like it the phone dial belt buckle, it looks like shit, havokeff.

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2008-01-10 04:44am

Batman wrote:And I don't care how much you like it the phone dial belt buckle, it looks like shit, havokeff.

Fine. You have to wear it after all.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2008-01-10 04:53am

I'm alright with the dial-belt. And upon reconsideration, I think your Batman drawing is way cooler than our Batman, the one we're stuck with

Feil · Post by **Feil** » 2008-01-10 10:39am

Robin is too short to be that muscular. He looks like a midget body builder

I love Batman's new head, gloves, and cape. Not a fan of the stubble or the excessive pouches.

EDIT:
PS, why does Bruce have a massive hardon in the most recent sketch. Is Robin holding the camera?

PPS: I think your batman has the best batman eyes I've ever seen. Bravo!

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-01-10 01:07pm

Heh, Batman's got quite a bulge there.

Jack Bauer · Post by **Jack Bauer** » 2008-01-10 11:08pm

havokeff wrote:
Batman wrote:And I don't care how much you like it the phone dial belt buckle, it looks like shit, havokeff.
Fine. You have to wear it after all.

I fuckin hate how he acts like he's actually Batman and is thus in a position to be an "oh so mighty" authority on everything Batman.

His routine would be amusing if it wasn't so goddamn lame.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2008-01-10 11:30pm

Jack Bauer wrote: I fuckin hate how he acts like he's actually Batman and is thus in a position to be an "oh so mighty" authority on everything Batman.

My heart bleeds for you. I mean I can absolutely see where I'm actually HARMING you by maintaining I'm actually me and the rest of the forum has definitely gone to cower in a dark corner somewhere. Oh wait. As opposed to making use of it by bringing up embarrasing anecdotes from my long and chequered career. There's damn near seven decades worth of me looking like a complete and utter moron but you have to whine I'm not actually me.

His routine would be amusing if it wasn't so goddamn lame.

*Yawns*

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2008-01-11 02:00am

My last post in this thread. Thanks for all the input.

This how I envision my Bat-Man WITH Dial Belt Buckle.

p.s. I actually inked something, just with sharpies, but still, it's the first time in probably 7 years.