Come in - you are safe

[Chardok]

The Cake is a lie

BAGHDAD - Blood-splotches on walls, chains hanging from a ceiling and swords on the killing floor — the artifacts left a disturbing tale of brutalities inside a suspected al-Qaida in Iraq torture chamber. But there was yet another chilling fact outside the dirt-floor dungeon. Villagers say they knew about the torment but were too intimidated by extremists to tell authorities until now.

Stories such as these — claims of insurgent abuses and the silence of frightened Iraqis — have emerged with increasing frequency and clarity recently as U.S.-led forces push deeper into former extremist fiefdoms and forge alliances with tribes seeking to reclaim their regions.

The reports and tips now pouring in build a harrowing portrait of rule under al-Qaida and its backers: mass graves, ruthless punishments, self-styled Islamic courts ordering summary executions.

Such a lead brought soldiers earlier this month to the hidden room in Muqdadiyah, about 60 miles north of Baghdad, the U.S. military said Thursday. Graffiti on the building proclaimed "Long Live the Islamic State" — a reference to the Islamic governance, or caliphate, sought in Iraq by Sunni extremist groups that include al-Qaida.

Scrawled in white paint above a bed in the torture area was a Quranic phrase in Arabic normally used to welcome a guest. But the context suggested only sadistic mockery: "Come in, you are safe."

The floor was littered with food wrappers, plastic soda bottles and electric cables that snaked to a metal bed frame, presumably where detainees were shocked, according to the U.S. account of the discovery during a Dec. 8-11 mission.

The rooms "had chains, a bed — an iron bed that was still connected to a battery — knives and swords that were still covered in blood," said U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Mark P. Hertling, the top U.S. commander in northern Iraq.

Nearby were nine mass graves containing the remains of 26 people, he said.

Villagers knew about the torture site, but did not tell authorities as they were afraid of reprisals from the militants, a local policeman told The Associated Press. He spoke on condition of anonymity as he was still afraid of being targeted by extremists.

He said he thought the chamber had been used for a year.

It was not the first such torture chamber discovered in Iraq. But it serves as a reminder of the extremist grip in parts of Iraq despite growing optimism as violence continues to fall.

And Diyala province — where the grisly discovery was made — remains one of the most volatile regions as U.S. and Iraqi forces struggle to match the clear advances against extremists made in Baghdad and the western desert of Anbar.

The province is mixed between Sunnis and Shiites — often called a "little Iraq" and a remnant of Iraq before sectarian bloodletting partitioned many parts of the country along religious lines. Diyala's capital, Baqouba, also is the self-proclaimed seat of the insurgents' caliphate.

"I think that is why al-Qaida wants that province so very much, because it is 'a little Iraq,'" Hertling said. "It gives them access to Baghdad and it also ... is considered their caliphate capital."

American commanders say they are a long way from declaring victory in Diyala.

The weapons caches found during the Muqdadiyah raids included a surface-to-air missile launcher, sniper rifles, and 130 pounds of homemade explosives, Hertling said.

"You know, there's going to be continued spectacular attacks," he said. "Are we confident we can protect it? As soon as I say, 'Yeah, we're confident,' it's going to blow tomorrow."

It was not the first apparent torture site found after U.S. forces moved into former extremist strongholds.

In March, U.S. troops discovered a similar site in the village of Karmah just west of Baghdad that was used by Sunni insurgents for torture and summary executions. They rescued two Iraqi captives, who apparently had been spared immediate execution because the militants' video camera broke and they wanted to film the killing.

The captives told U.S. soldiers they had been sentenced to death by an insurgent court and had the choice of either beheading or a fatal gunshot.

Both Sunni insurgents and Shiite militia death squads regularly torture their captives before killing them — sometimes with power drills. Most of the hundreds of bodies that have turned up in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq show signs of torture.

The religion of peace strikes again!

[Darth Wong]

The religion of peace strikes again!

If only it were possible to publicly mock Christianity every time a Christian did something terrible, the way we do with Islam. But oh no, if you treat Christianity that way, you're a "bigot".

[Chardok]

The religion of peace strikes again!

If only it were possible to publicly mock Christianity every time a Christian did something terrible, the way we do with Islam. But oh no, if you treat Christianity that way, you're a "bigot".

Don't we? I mean..if the christian does something terrible in the name of christianity? I can't recall anything specific...but, then...when do crime don ein the name of christianity get press? not much, I guess.

[SirNitram]

The religion of peace strikes again!

If only it were possible to publicly mock Christianity every time a Christian did something terrible, the way we do with Islam. But oh no, if you treat Christianity that way, you're a "bigot".

Don't we? I mean..if the christian does something terrible in the name of christianity? I can't recall anything specific...but, then...when do crime don ein the name of christianity get press? not much, I guess.

Never. Because you'd be a bigot if you admitted Christians have violent psychos too.

[Ubiquitous]

The religion of peace strikes again!

If only it were possible to publicly mock Christianity every time a Christian did something terrible, the way we do with Islam. But oh no, if you treat Christianity that way, you're a "bigot".

...what does Christianity have to do with the article, or did you just see an opportunity to bot your agenda again to try and throw the thread off onto a tangent you feel more comfortable discussing?

As for the torture chambers. I couldn't imagine living in a country that had one of them in my own city. And to think - our country is at least partly responsible for what has happened there. But the fact that the Iraqis can't trust the authorities to tell them about what was going on indicates just how far the mentality in that country has to come before there can be peace.

It's sickening.

[Oni Koneko Damien]

The religion of peace strikes again!

If only it were possible to publicly mock Christianity every time a Christian did something terrible, the way we do with Islam. But oh no, if you treat Christianity that way, you're a "bigot".

...what does Christianity have to do with the article, or did you just see an opportunity to bot your agenda again to try and throw the thread off onto a tangent you feel more comfortable discussing?

Jesus titty-fucking Christ, what the hell are you trying to get at here? This is the second thread that you've happily jumped on someone who made a disparaging remark about Christianity. I'll throw the question you asked earlier right back at you as you seem to be a little obsessed with this at the moment: What's your agenda?

[Illuminatus Primus]

The religion of peace strikes again!

If only it were possible to publicly mock Christianity every time a Christian did something terrible, the way we do with Islam. But oh no, if you treat Christianity that way, you're a "bigot".

Don't we? I mean..if the christian does something terrible in the name of christianity? I can't recall anything specific...but, then...when do crime don ein the name of christianity get press? not much, I guess.

Lord's Resistance Army. But of course, that's not a "Christian" terrorist group. You'll never hear those three words on TV.

[The Spartan]

Lord's Resistance Army. But of course, that's not a "Christian" terrorist group. You'll never hear those three words on TV.

Case in point: I've never heard of them.

[Darth Wong]

The religion of peace strikes again!

If only it were possible to publicly mock Christianity every time a Christian did something terrible, the way we do with Islam. But oh no, if you treat Christianity that way, you're a "bigot".

...what does Christianity have to do with the article, or did you just see an opportunity to bot your agenda again to try and throw the thread off onto a tangent you feel more comfortable discussing?

What does the "Islam is a religion of peace" bullshit have to do with the article, genius? Or did people just see an opportunity to bot their agenda again to try and throw the thread off onto a tangent they feel more comfortable discussing? After all, it's not as if the US is responsible for these A-Q fuckers being in Iraq in the first place, is it?

[Darth Wong]

The religion of peace strikes again!

If only it were possible to publicly mock Christianity every time a Christian did something terrible, the way we do with Islam. But oh no, if you treat Christianity that way, you're a "bigot".

Don't we? I mean..if the christian does something terrible in the name of christianity? I can't recall anything specific...but, then...when do crime don ein the name of christianity get press? not much, I guess.

Look up "Sabra and Shatila massacres". Women and children massacred in a refugee camp by Christian militias.