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Santa Claus Is Coming To Get Me': Mental health charity sparks outrage with spoof Christmas carols
Last updated at 01:12am on 21st December 2007
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Carols are traditional fare at this time of year but some re-worked songs were considered insensitive
It was meant to be a lighthearted seasonal reflection on a serious subject. But not everyone got the joke.
The top ten of festive songs poking fun at psychiatric problems was published in a magazine for patients using mental health facilities.
The list - entitled Christmas Carols for the Mentally Disturbed - describes psychiatric conditions and suggests songs to suit the illness.
For multiple personality disorder there is We Three Kings Disorientated Are; paranoia is coupled with Santa Claus Is Coming To Town To Get Me; narcissism - Hark The Herald Angels Sing About Me.
The magazine, called Marooned, is produced by the Cromwell House mental health facility in Eccles, Salford.
Issued four times a year, it is put together by an editorial board made up of patients, with staff on hand should they need advice.
The winter edition was distributed in Salford's psychiatric clinics and drop-in centres but after a formal complaint from the daughter of a mental health patient, the magazine has been withdrawn.
Zinette Camille, who has a family member who suffered with mental illness for 19 years, picked up Marooned at the Meadowbrook psychiatric unit in the grounds of Hope Hospital.
Miss Camille, from Manchester, said: "I could not believe what I was reading. I was astonished that it could be so insensitive.
"I was angry that they could belittle people in that manner.
"I phoned up the council to express my concerns and someone at the magazine asked if I would like to write in and say why I found it offensive.
"They said the magazine had been running for 15 years and there had not been any problems.
"I said their response was not really good enough and asked whether it was not vetted by someone in authority.
"It is very degrading. The offending page says 'Christmas Carols for the Mentally Disturbed'.
"People with mental health issues have a disability - they are not disturbed."
A spokesman for the magazine's editorial board said: "No offence was intended by the feature and we apologise sincerely for any distress caused.
"The magazine will now be recalled and the article removed. We have spoken to Miss Camille and have invited her down to meet the editorial board.
"We have also said that we would be happy to include her response to the feature in the next edition of the magazine."
Cromwell House is staffed by Salford Council care workers and others employed by the Bolton, Salford and Trafford Mental Health NHS Trust.
A spokesman for Salford City Council said future editions of the magazine would be subjected to closer vetting.
Richard Colwill, spokesman for mental health charity Sane, said: "While no one wants to cause offence, it would be a shame if people cannot poke a bit of fun at themselves, particularly at this time of year.
"Laughter can be the best medicine but of course we are sorry to hear some people have been upset by the booklet."
Personally, I think its hilarious, especially #9.
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Christ, psychology has gotten so completely out of control. I suspect they probably invent a new disorder every time they get a new patient, so they can diagnose them with something and prescribe half-tested drugs or off-label treatments to them to make more money.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:"Personality Disorder" ?!
Christ, psychology has gotten so completely out of control. I suspect they probably invent a new disorder every time they get a new patient, so they can diagnose them with something and prescribe half-tested drugs or off-label treatments to them to make more money.
That would be psychiatrists, since they're the ones who are actually licensed to prescribe medication. Psychologists would be the ones who want you to come in again and again (and again) for repeated sessions on the couch.
Also your statement assumes that it was "in control" at some point, when Freud is still considered a "pioneer" in the field and his ideas are still granted legitimacy by some professionals.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:"Personality Disorder" ?!
Christ, psychology has gotten so completely out of control. I suspect they probably invent a new disorder every time they get a new patient, so they can diagnose them with something and prescribe half-tested drugs or off-label treatments to them to make more money.
Personality Disorder is a class of illnesses, not an illness in its own right. It includes Paranoid personality disorder, Schizoid personality disorder, Schizotypal personality disorder, Histrionic personality disorder, etc.
A psychiatrist wouldn't diagnose someone with "Personality Disorder," they'd diagnose them with whatever personality disorder they have. It's like saying someone has "Viral illness."
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:"Personality Disorder" ?!
Christ, psychology has gotten so completely out of control. I suspect they probably invent a new disorder every time they get a new patient, so they can diagnose them with something and prescribe half-tested drugs or off-label treatments to them to make more money.
Personality Disorder is a class of illnesses, not an illness in its own right. It includes Paranoid personality disorder, Schizoid personality disorder, Schizotypal personality disorder, Histrionic personality disorder, etc.
A psychiatrist wouldn't diagnose someone with "Personality Disorder," they'd diagnose them with whatever personality disorder they have. It's like saying someone has "Viral illness."
You're correct, sir!
And Dutchess, if you don't think personality disorders exist, try working with people who have them. I suspect you would change your mind rather quickly.
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:"Personality Disorder" ?!
Christ, psychology has gotten so completely out of control. I suspect they probably invent a new disorder every time they get a new patient, so they can diagnose them with something and prescribe half-tested drugs or off-label treatments to them to make more money.
Personality Disorder is a class of illnesses, not an illness in its own right. It includes Paranoid personality disorder, Schizoid personality disorder, Schizotypal personality disorder, Histrionic personality disorder, etc.
A psychiatrist wouldn't diagnose someone with "Personality Disorder," they'd diagnose them with whatever personality disorder they have. It's like saying someone has "Viral illness."
You're correct, sir!
And Dutchess, if you don't think personality disorders exist, try working with people who have them. I suspect you would change your mind rather quickly.
Aye, its quite interesting working with people with those conditions. The rapid changes that occur over a short periods of time can be quite shocking as well as challenging.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:"Personality Disorder" ?!
Christ, psychology has gotten so completely out of control. I suspect they probably invent a new disorder every time they get a new patient, so they can diagnose them with something and prescribe half-tested drugs or off-label treatments to them to make more money.
Personality Disorder is a class of illnesses, not an illness in its own right. It includes Paranoid personality disorder, Schizoid personality disorder, Schizotypal personality disorder, Histrionic personality disorder, etc.
A psychiatrist wouldn't diagnose someone with "Personality Disorder," they'd diagnose them with whatever personality disorder they have. It's like saying someone has "Viral illness."
You're correct, sir!
And Dutchess, if you don't think personality disorders exist, try working with people who have them. I suspect you would change your mind rather quickly.
I suspect DOZ's problem with the term "personality disorder" is that once you classify something as a disease, a lot of people feel that the person is no longer responsible for his own actions, as per the Christian "free will" doctrine. Clearly, such disorders exist, but let's face it, being an asshole is a type of personality disorder. It shouldn't get anyone off the hook for their actions.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:"Personality Disorder" ?!
Christ, psychology has gotten so completely out of control. I suspect they probably invent a new disorder every time they get a new patient, so they can diagnose them with something and prescribe half-tested drugs or off-label treatments to them to make more money.
Personality disorders (such as sociopathic personality disorder) have been in the Manual for a long time. I think this thing was just playing hard and fast with just "personality disorder."
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Darth Wong wrote:I suspect DOZ's problem with the term "personality disorder" is that once you classify something as a disease, a lot of people feel that the person is no longer responsible for his own actions, as per the Christian "free will" doctrine. Clearly, such disorders exist, but let's face it, being an asshole is a type of personality disorder. It shouldn't get anyone off the hook for their actions.
I agree.
Basically, these categories exist so to describe people who have developed maladapted mental coping systems. An example could be someone with a Borderline Personality Disorder. Instead of managing their feelings like a healthier person, people diagnosed with BDP often cut themselves, or they might pull out their hair... they are also prone to psychosis. These are just a few small examples out of a pretty large constellation of problems that these people have.
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:"Personality Disorder" ?!
Christ, psychology has gotten so completely out of control. I suspect they probably invent a new disorder every time they get a new patient, so they can diagnose them with something and prescribe half-tested drugs or off-label treatments to them to make more money.
Not really. Personality disorders are just a very broad catch all for the people that are obviously fucked in the head but just cant be put into an existing category. Sociopathy is a form of personality disorder for example. A person who crucifies mice has a personality disorder.
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:Not really. Personality disorders are just a very broad catch all for the people that are obviously fucked in the head but just cant be put into an existing category. Sociopathy is a form of personality disorder for example. A person who crucifies mice has a personality disorder.
Actually, they're pretty specific, and they are diagnostic categories. They're definitely not part of the "Not Otherwise Specified" grouping.
Classification
The text revision of the fourth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV-TR) defines personality disorders as enduring subjective experiences and behavior that deviate from cultural standards, are rigidly pervasive, have an onset in adolescence or early adulthood, are stable through time, and lead to unhappiness and impairment. When personality traits are rigid and maladaptive and produce functional impairment or subjective distress, a personality disorder may be diagnosed (Table 27-1).
Personality disorder subtypes classified in DSM-IV-TR are: schizotypal, schizoid, and paranoid (Cluster A); narcissistic, borderline, antisocial, and histrionic (Cluster B); and obsessive-compulsive, dependent, and avoidant (Cluster C). Cluster A includes three disorders with odd, aloof features, such as paranoid, schizoid, and schizotypal. Cluster B includes four disorders with dramatic, impulsive, and erratic features, such as borderline, antisocial, narcissistic, and histrionic. Cluster C includes three disorders sharing anxious and fearful features, such as avoidant, dependent, and obsessive-compulsive. Many persons exhibit traits that are not limited to a single personality disorder. When a patient meets the criteria for more than one personality disorder, clinicians should diagnose each. Personality disorders are coded on Axis II of DSM-IV-TR.
Etiology
Genetic Factors
The best evidence that genetic factors contribute to personality disorders comes from investigations of 15,000 pairs of twins in the United States. Among monozygotic twins, the concordance for personality disorders was several times that among dizygotic twins. Moreover, according to one study, monozygotic twins reared apart are about as similar as monozygotic twins reared together. Similarities include multiple measures of personality and temperament, occupational and leisure-time interests, and social attitudes.
Cluster A personality disorders are more common in the biological relatives of patients with schizophrenia than in control groups. More relatives with schizotypal personality disorder occur in the family histories of persons with schizophrenia than in control groups. Less correlation exists between paranoid or schizoid personality disorder and schizophrenia.
Cluster B personality disorders apparently have a genetic base. Antisocial personality disorder is associated with alcohol use disorders. Depression is common in the family backgrounds of patients with borderline personality disorder. These patients have more relatives with mood disorders than do control groups, and persons with borderline personality disorder often have a mood disorder as well. A strong association is found between histrionic personality disorder and somatization disorder (Briquet's syndrome); patients with each disorder show an overlap of symptoms.
Cluster C personality disorders may also have a genetic base. Patients with avoidant personality disorder often have high anxiety levels. Obsessive-compulsive traits are more common in monozygotic twins than in dizygotic twins, and patients with obsessive-compulsive personality disorder show some signs associated with depression—for example, shortened rapid eye movement (REM) latency period and abnormal dexamethasone-suppression test (DST) results.
I suspect you would change your mind rather quickly.
