Douche Nozzle wrote:These American values, this great moral heritage, is shared and lived in my religion as it is in yours. I was taught in my home to honor God and love my neighbor. I saw my father march with Martin Luther King.
One problem: Willard "Mitt" Romney never saw his father, George Romney, march with Martin Luther King because his father never marched with King.
Chris Kelley has fun with this pile of horseshit: Link
The Romney campaign is still looking for an event where George Romney might have marched with Martin Luther King. Romney seems to have been at King's funeral, but that doesn't count, since Baptists don't believe the dead walk and we don't know what Mormons believe. Mitt would tell you, but then he'd have to kill you, and rebaptize you against your will.
This is almost as bad as when Von Reagan claimed to have filmed the liberation of Nazi camps in WW2, which was quite a feat considering he spent the war in Hollywood, where the Nazis didn't have any camps.
Heh. How long till one of the US candidates claims that he has been to the moon? Their claims get more outlandish day by day.
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Stas Bush wrote:Heh. How long till one of the US candidates claims that he has been to [Jesus's crucifixion]? Their claims get more outlandish day by day.
Stas Bush wrote:Heh. How long till one of the US candidates claims that he has been to [Jesus's crucifixion]? Their claims get more outlandish day by day.
Fixed for accuracy.
They'd never claim that. If they did, it would imply that they witnessed Jesus being crucified and did nothing to help him.
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They'd never claim that. If they did, it would imply that they witnessed Jesus being crucified and did nothing to help him.
I'm sure you'd get at least one who would actively participate in the crucifixion, because he could then claim that he "teamed up with Jesus" so that he could dei and reborn to cleanse people of sin.
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Stas Bush wrote:Heh. How long till one of the US candidates claims that he has been to [Jesus's crucifixion]? Their claims get more outlandish day by day.
Fixed for accuracy.
They'd never claim that. If they did, it would imply that they witnessed Jesus being crucified and did nothing to help him.
I've had people actually claim that stopping Jesus' crucifixion would have been an evil thing...which, as shrieking insane as it is, makes sense according to Christian dogma.
They'd never claim that. If they did, it would imply that they witnessed Jesus being crucified and did nothing to help him.
I've had people actually claim that stopping Jesus' crucifixion would have been an evil thing...which, as shrieking insane as it is, makes sense according to Christian dogma.
Of course it would be an evil thing. They're killing a Jew for fucks sake.
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Romney never saw father on King march
Defends figurative words; evidence contradicts story
By Michael Levenson, Globe Staff | December 21, 2007
Mitt Romney acknowledged yesterday that he never saw his father march with Martin Luther King Jr. as he asserted in a nationally televised speech this month, and historical evidence shows that Michigan's Governor George Romney and the civil rights leader never did march together.
Romney said his father had told him he had marched with King and that he had been using the word "saw" in a "figurative sense."
"If you look at the literature, if you look at the dictionary, the term 'saw' includes being aware of in the sense I've described," Romney told reporters in Iowa. "It's a figure of speech and very familiar, and it's very common. And I saw my dad march with Martin Luther King. I did not see it with my own eyes, but I saw him in the sense of being aware of his participation in that great effort."
But historical evidence, including news accounts at the time, shows that George Romney never marched with King, though he supported King's agenda.
Susan Englander, assistant edi tor of the Martin Luther King Jr. Papers Project at Stanford University, who is editing the King papers from that era, told the Globe yesterday: "I researched this question, and indeed it is untrue that George Romney marched with Martin Luther King."
She said that when he was governor of Michigan, George Romney issued a proclamation in June 1963 in support of King's march in Detroit, but declined to attend, saying he did not participate in political events on Sundays. A New York Times story from the time confirms Englander's account.
A few days after that march, George Romney joined a civil rights march through the Detroit suburb of Grosse Pointe, but King did not attend, Englander said. A report in the New York Times confirms Englander's account of that second march, mentioning George Romney's attendance but making no mention of King.
Romney has repeated the story of his father marching with King in some of his most prominent presidential campaign appearances, including the "Tonight" show with Jay Leno in May, his address on faith and politics Dec. 6 in Texas, and on NBC's "Meet The Press" on Sunday, when he was questioned about the Mormon Church's ban on full participation by black members. He said that he had cried in his car in 1978 when he heard the ban had ended, and added, "My father marched with Martin Luther King."
Mitt Romney went a step further in a 1978 interview with the Boston Herald. Talking about the Mormon Church and racial discrimination, he said: "My father and I marched with Martin Luther King Jr. through the streets of Detroit."
I love the fact that in an effort to explain himself Romney has been saying he meant he was "Marching with King In Spirit"
Praying is another way of doing nothing helpful
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hmmm. somebody spoke too quickly. Apparantly George Romney DID march at the side of MLKjr. .....kudos to the reporters, too bad they didnt do this when "Gore invented the internet" was the big story.
Shirley Basore, 72, says she was sitting in the hairdresser’s chair in wealthy Grosse Pointe, Mich., back in 1963 when a rumpus started and she discovered that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and her governor, George Romney, were marching for civil rights — right past the window.
With the cape still around her neck, Basore went outside and joined the parade.
“They were hand in hand,” recalled Basore, a former high-school English teacher. “They led the march. We all swung our hands, and they held their hands up above everybody else’s.”
She remembered the late governor as “extremely handsome.”
Until this week, that was just a vivid memory for a sweet retiree who now lives in Pompano Beach, Fla.
But Basore’s memory became important this week when news accounts questioned the recollections of the late Michigan governor’s son, Mitt Romney, the Republican presidential candidate and former Massachusetts governor.
News stories suggested that Romney was exaggerating. It turns out that he may not have attended the Grosse Pointe march, but it certainly happened.
The campaign posted citations quoting one author as writing that “George Romney made a surprise appearance in his shirt sleeves and joined the parade leaders.”
Stephen Hess and David S. Broder also wrote about the march in their 1967 book, “The Republican Establishment: The Present and Future of the G.O.P.”
Basore said she was very angry about how the issue has been covered on cable television.
“This very arrogant guy on TV questioned Mitt Romney, and I marched with them,” Basore said. “I hope that the campaign demands an apology. I want him to publicly apologize to me. That was a personal insult, and an insult to Mitt Romney.”
Basore said she called the campaign, and the campaign supplied her contact information.
Another witness, Ashby Richardson, 64, of Massachusetts gave the campaign a similar account.
“I’m just appalled that the news picks this stuff up and say it didn’t happen,” Richardson, now a data-collection consultant, said by phone. “The press is being disingenuous in terms of reporting what actually happened. I remember it vividly. I was only 15 or 20 feet from where both of them were.”
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.
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I love how the guy claimed it, and then when asked for specifics of when it happened, his campaign was in disarray and looking for an event when his father did actually march with King.
So even though his father marched with King, at least according to these elderly individuals, Romney was still talking out of his ass and had no idea when it actually happened.
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So two people claim they saw Martin Luther King Jr marching with George Romney in Grosse Pointe. The problem with their story is that King wasn't there and didn't turn up until 1968 -five years later. People claim to have seen and heard all kinds of things that never happened: UFOs, damn dirty hippies spitting on soldiers, the Loch Ness monster and countless other urban legends.
Romney claimed that he and his father and King marched together in Detroit. No such thing happened. It's a lie, and a pretty shameless one at that. One would think that local newspapers or TV would have noted George Romney's participation in a march with someone like King, who was detested by the vast majority of right-thinking people before he was martyred.
In fact, King’s only appearance in Grosse Pointe, according to Berschback, took place after Broder’s book was published.
That was for a March 14 speech he delivered at Grosse Pointe High School, just three weeks before King was assassinated. But there was no march, and George Romney was not there.
Security concerns would have made a march impossible, even had one been planned. King was personally driven directly to the high school by the sheriff, as described by accounts at the time.
This 1968 Grosse Pointe appearance is the one that Romney spokesperson Eric Fehrnstrom initially insisted, in email exchanges with the Phoenix, was the event in question. Fehrnstrom cited the Broder column and “the Romney family recollection.”
Of the many contemporaneous and historical records of the Grosse Pointe speech, none make any mention of George Romney’s attendance. It is unlikely, if not implausible, that his presence would have gone unnoticed: not only was he governor of the state, he had just, weeks before, dropped out of the race for President.
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Had George Romney ever marched with Martin Luther King Jr., it almost certainly would have been documented. From the mid-’50s through 1962, Romney was one of the country’s most prominent business leaders — for him to travel South for a civil-rights march would have been remarkable. From January 1963 on, as governor of Michigan and a presumed Presidential candidate, Romney was one of the most visible political figures in the country.
As a home care nurse, I took a born-again, former member of the Hitler Youth patient to church for 9 years. Folks in that church routinely claimed to have "been to the foot of the cross". Now I know they were speaking in a less than literal manner, but I'm not convinced, that if pressed they would admit that.
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