Which Republican would you vote for in the primary?

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2007-12-29 05:33pm

I would vote for Ron Paul. I don't know about you guys but non-interventionist sounds pretty sweet from this side of the planet.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2007-12-29 06:08pm

Durandal wrote:Ron Paul is the only appealing GOP candidate, but that's not saying much. Something about me just likes the idea of a president that would veto any bill which contained $1 of unnecessary spending.

And his supporters have a kick ass chant. "What do we want? Ron Paul! When do we want it? Ron Paul!"

Ron Paul should read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution a little better (and the writings of Jefferson, Washington, Franklin etc.) as he claimed the following a few years back:

The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders’ political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government’s hostility to religion. The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life. The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance. Throughout our nation’s history, churches have done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility. Moral and civil individuals are largely governed by their own sense of right and wrong, and hence have little need for external government. This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people’s allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before putting their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation’s Christian heritage. Christmas itself may soon be a casualty of that war.

Together with the nonsense, there isn't a single mentioning of God in the Constitution and only one mentioning in the Declaration of Independence.
However, he seems to have more balanced views on the foreign policy than some of the other GOP candidates.

I don't follow the American election campaign that closely, but Giuliani appeals more to me on social issues than the other candidates... Why not a hybrid of Giuliani and Paul?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2007-12-29 07:36pm

Oh, and I forgot to mention that Huckabee arranged the parole of a violent rapist (Wayne Dumond, against the written protestations of several of his victims) because he was pressured by a Bill Clinton witch-hunting brigade. The victim, Ashley Stevens, was a 17 year-old cheerleader, a distant relative of Bill Clinton, and her mother was a big donor to Clinton's campaign. Several GOP activists were lobbying for Dumond's release because they thought the Clintons had set him up and that women like to routinely lie about being violently raped. Huckabee apparently agreed and pressured the parole board to grant Dumond's parole.

After he was paroled, he raped and killed again. Huckabee insisted that there was no way anyone couldn't known that a violent sex offender would be a repeat offender if released. Huckabee also told Stevens that he thought Dumond could be innocent. Now, when inquired about it, he insists that he acted out of "compassion" and "took a chance" because it was the Christian thing to do.

So either Huckabee is so stupid that he would believe Dumond was innocent (Dumond had a laundry list of violent assault arrests from his younger days and several victims all describing similar scenarios for his rape patterns), or he was stupid enough to believe that Dumond could actually reform. I don't want that piece of shit anywhere near the White House.

Read the whole story here. It's pretty disgusting.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2007-12-29 08:01pm

Wow.... just...wow. You know what, given recidivism rates for sex offenders, that fucking cunt should have been charged with criminally negligent homicide

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2007-12-29 08:16pm

If nothing proves the utterly vile character cultivated by the Republican Party in the modern day like that, I don't know what does.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2007-12-29 11:15pm

Lincoln, T.R., Eisenhower, Goldwater?

/i mean they are the only republicans I would consider

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2007-12-30 03:55am

This Ron Paul fella grows funnier by the day:

YouTube: Ron Paul does not accept the theory of evolution as a theory

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2007-12-30 04:39am

Isolder74 wrote:Utah doesn't have a primary.

Actually, I think we do have one. We're going to be part of the Super Tuesday group on February 5th, and I actually voted in the Democratic Primary here in Utah in 2004.

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2007-12-30 04:41am

As for my vote, I'd probably pick either McCain or (yes, I know this is sad) Mitt Romney. McCain is, well, McCain, and still probably the best of a bad lot. Mitt's a slippery, slimy eel, but he also seems like the kind of guy who could probably make compromises with a democratic congress.

The Spartan · Post by **The Spartan** » 2007-12-30 08:14am

Paul or McCain, because they're the least batshit crazy of the bunch, which isn't saying much. But you'd have to put a gun to my head.

I'll vote for Mickey Mouse before I vote Republican in this election.

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2007-12-30 11:03am

Spyder wrote:I would vote for Ron Paul. I don't know about you guys but non-interventionist sounds pretty sweet from this side of the planet.

It sounds good over here too, but Paul also wants to allow private currrency backed by gold to tbe legal tender, abolish the income tax, eliminate the Federal Reserve, etc.

If Paul wasn't a libertarian nutjob, I'd vote for him.
But since he is, my choice in the Repub primary is Thompson, simply because he's not FlipFlopFascist Rudy McRomney.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2007-12-30 11:18am

Sadly, as much note and noise, I'd go for maybe...Thompson or Ron Paul. One's the same garbage we have but not as bad as the others, and Ron Paul at least is an honest nut. I might've chose McCain, but really after his yabbering of being tortured in Vietnam to then go "Sure, it's ok to torture our suspects, because we are the US!" is as vile as Rudy's "I was at 9/11!!!!!".

Because I have to pick one, Ron Paul. Like hell I will support, give support or demonstrate support for the Republican candidate. But he's the honest retard nut. That alone puts him above the rest.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2007-12-30 11:31am

I wonder how Ron Paul, as a libertarian, would interact with a Congress composed chiefly of Republicans and Democrats. If I have to support a Republican candidate and the Congress would stymie his lolbertarianism enough, yet still allow some good ideas (withdrawal from Iraq, balanced budget) through, he might be worth supporting.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2007-12-30 12:37pm

Mange wrote:This Ron Paul fella grows funnier by the day:

YouTube: Ron Paul does not accept the theory of evolution as a theory

Ah yes, so free market capitalism is a well-established, evidence-based theory, but not biological evolution.

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2007-12-30 12:41pm

Voting for which Republican I want as president is like voting for which sexually transmitted disease I want to be infected with. I might as well vote for McCain, because he seems likely to cause the LEAST amount of damage if he was elected.

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2007-12-30 01:08pm

A vote for Huckabee is like a vote for Cthulhu . . . why vote for the lesser evil? I vote Cthulhu!

Actually, no. For the brain-dead thirty percent who doggedly support Bush the Younger, he'd probably be someone worth getting off the couch to go vote for. And if they get their waffling friends in on it, and pit the unashamedly Christian Common Folksy Man Huckabee against a *gasp* black man or that elitist LIEberal Clinton woman . . . well, let's just say Huckabee's probably the most electable candidate for the lemming wing of the GOP.

So . . . honestly, I'm going to have to vote Alan Keyes. But only because he doesn't have a prayer of finishing in more than the 1% percentile and I refuse to pick "Castrate Straha".

TC Pilot · Post by **TC Pilot** » 2007-12-30 01:22pm

Did anyone see Ron Paul on Colbert Report? Basically, he started out sounding great. He'd shut down Guantanamo, pull out of Iraq, end all Bush's illegal, unconstitutional wire-tapping, etc.

Then Colbert listed off various government organizations/branches to see which Paul approved of.

Department of Education? No.
Department of Homeland Security? No.
Department of Energy? No.
IRS? BIG no.
FEMA? No.
United Nations? No.
NATO? No.
Interstate Commerce Commission? No.
NAFTA? No.
WTO? No.
UNICEF? Maybe... but still no.

The man's completely nuts.

Civil War Man · Post by **Civil War Man** » 2007-12-30 01:23pm

Since the reanimated zombie corpse of Abraham Lincoln is not an option, my vote will go to the reanimated zombie corpse of Ronald Reagan.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2007-12-30 01:26pm

I have to say, compared to the Democrats thread this one is rather sad. Ron Paul is tied with the scum that is John McCain. But both are beat out by Zombie Regan.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2007-12-30 01:47pm

I would vote RP, just to see what would happen. Much the same way people poke things with sticks, to see what'll happen

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2007-12-30 01:47pm

Civil War Man wrote:Since the reanimated zombie corpse of Abraham Lincoln is not an option, my vote will go to the reanimated zombie corpse of Ronald Reagan.

Unfortunately, he ran out of bullets and ran away as Optimus Prime came to save the day.

As for who I'd vote for in a Republican primary, I think it would come down to whoever I thought would have the least chance of winning the actual election, just to make things a bit easier for the Democrats.

SCRawl · Post by **SCRawl** » 2007-12-30 01:50pm

Mr Bean wrote:I have to say, compared to the Democrats thread this one is rather sad. Ron Paul is tied with the scum that is John McCain. But both are beat out by Zombie Regan.

What about Zombie Reagan's term limits? Or are they reset to zero after death?

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2007-12-30 03:42pm

All these choices and none of them good. I resurect Reagan, at least I have an idea what would happen.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2007-12-30 03:43pm

I have stuck both threads until after the New Hampshire polls close in order to see how close board voting went with actual voting.
I have a fair feeling that it will have little resemblance to actual voting patterns but who knows?

Erik von Nein · Post by **Erik von Nein** » 2007-12-30 04:11pm

I dunno, I'd probably vote for Keyes as he's not nearly as bad as the front runners or Ron Paul. Maybe McCain since he's now the consumate politician and will go along with whatever keeps him in office. If the Democrats kept their majority and pushed their agenda he'd go along with it while offering token resistance every now and then. Then, again, Ron Paul as President would be downright hilarious. Talk about getting nothing done. Ho, boy.

Though maybe whoever supports nuclear power more should get the vote. I mean, they're all pretty terrible candidates, might as well get something long lasting out of them.

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