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Wired wrote:Researchers at Sandia National Laboratories in New Mexico have found a way of using sunlight to recycle carbon dioxide and produce fuels like methanol or gasoline.

The Sunlight to Petrol, or S2P, project essentially reverses the combustion process, recovering the building blocks of hydrocarbons. They can then be used to synthesize liquid fuels like methanol or gasoline. Researchers said the technology already works and could help reduce greenhouse-gas emissions, although large-scale implementation could be a decade or more away.

"This is about closing the cycle," said Ellen Stechel, manager of Sandia's Fuels and Energy Transitions department. "Right now our fossil fuels are emitting CO2. This would help us manage and reduce our emissions and put us on the path to a carbon-neutral energy system."

The idea of recycling carbon dioxide is not new, but has generally been considered too difficult and expensive to be worth the effort. But with oil prices exceeding $100 per barrel and concerns about global warming mounting, researchers are increasingly motivated to investigate carbon recycling. Los Alamos Renewable Energy, for example, has developed a method of using CO2 to generate electricity and fuel.

S2P uses a solar reactor called the Counter-Rotating Ring Receiver Reactor Recuperator, or CR5, to divide carbon dioxide into carbon monoxide and oxygen.

"It's a heat engine," Stechel said. "But instead of doing mechanical work, it does chemical work."

Lab experiments have shown that the process works, Stechel said. The researchers hope to finish a prototype by April.

The prototype will be about the size and shape of a beer keg. It will contain 14 cobalt ferrite rings, each about one foot in diameter and turning at one revolution per minute. An 88-square meter solar furnace will blast sunlight into the unit, heating the rings to about 2,600 degrees Fahrenheit. At that temperature, cobalt ferrite releases oxygen. When the rings cool to about 2,000 degrees, they're exposed to CO2.

Since the cobalt ferrite is now missing oxygen, it snatches some from the CO2, leaving behind just carbon monoxide -- a building block for making hydrocarbons -- that can then be used to make methanol or gasoline. And with the cobalt ferrite restored to its original state, the device is ready for another cycle.

Fuels like methanol and gasoline are combinations of hydrogen and carbon that are relatively easy to synthesize, Stechel said. Methanol is the easiest, and that's where they will start, but gasoline could also be made.

However, creating a powerful and efficient solar power system to get the cobalt ferrite hot enough remains a major hurdle in implementing the technology on a large scale, said Aldo Steinfeld, head of the Solar Technology Laboratory at the Paul Scherrer Institut in Switzerland, in an e-mail.

He and Stechel said the technology could be 15 to 20 years from viability on an industrial scale.

The Sandia team originally developed the CR5 to generate hydrogen for use in fuel cells. If the device's rings are exposed to steam instead of carbon dioxide, they generate hydrogen. But the scientists switched to carbon monoxide, so the fuels they produce would be compatible with existing infrastructure.

The Sandia team envisions a day when CR5s are installed in large numbers at coal-fired power plants. Each of them could reclaim 45 pounds of carbon dioxide from the air daily and produce enough carbon monoxide to make 2.5 gallons of fuel. Coupling the CR5 with CO2 reclamation and sequestration technology, which several scientists already are pursuing, could make liquid hydrocarbons a renewable fuel, Stechel said.

"It's certainly technology that can be developed," she said. "It's not that it's challenging, it's that the ideas aren't economically viable yet."
15-20 years? Peak of PO you say? :P
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So wait, these plants only produce 2.5 gallons of fuel daily? Riight, isn't the US gasoline consumption something like several billion barrels a day? Also, isn't our coal reserve estimated at about a century of heavy use?

Seriously, why the fuck are we still concentrating on keeping gasoline as a major fuel source when it's not going to last much longer?
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Tasoth wrote:So wait, these plants only produce 2.5 gallons of fuel daily?
According to the article each plant is only the size of a beer keg, so if it's legitimate, you would be operating them in arrays, not individually.
Seriously, why the fuck are we still concentrating on keeping gasoline as a major fuel source when it's not going to last much longer?
Even once we move onto other fuel sources, we might still be using petroleum in the production of things like fertilizers and plastics.
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Ghetto edit:
Sorry, forget I said anything about the size of the plant. I have no idea how big the final model is going to be.
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It sounds like an interesting technology, but 303's gushing is pre-emptive. We don't know how the technology will scale, and it requires coal plants to be effective anyway. :)
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Stark wrote:It sounds like an interesting technology, but 303's gushing is pre-emptive. We don't know how the technology will scale, and it requires coal plants to be effective anyway. :)
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This is like photosynthesis and petrolification (?) rolled into one. That's kinda neat.
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Would it work with carbon emmisions?
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Would some kind mod adjust the title to CO2, so as to not make us wonder how in Darth Vader's name scientists have managed to make fuel out of carbon monoxide?
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Ghetto edit: Okay, Feil can't read. Disregard my earlier post.
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Would something like this be useful in cities, where there are hundreds of thousands of people breathing out CO2 all the time?
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Coalition wrote:Would something like this be useful in cities, where there are hundreds of thousands of people breathing out CO2 all the time?
Encorporate something like this into cars?



Could extend the range (and environmental qualities) of vehicles by a few miles, possibly.
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alexholker wrote:
Seriously, why the fuck are we still concentrating on keeping gasoline as a major fuel source when it's not going to last much longer?
Even once we move onto other fuel sources, we might still be using petroleum in the production of things like fertilizers and plastics.
Remember that peak oil doesn't mean that oil production is gone; it means that oil production is declining. So we're not going to run out of petroleum for probably another century; we just won't be able to use it in everyday life because what's left will be needed for military, fertilizer, and plastics applications.
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Zac Naloen wrote:
Coalition wrote:Would something like this be useful in cities, where there are hundreds of thousands of people breathing out CO2 all the time?
Encorporate something like this into cars?

Could extend the range (and environmental qualities) of vehicles by a few miles, possibly.
I was thinking about buildings mainly. The tops are exposed to sunlight, probably the upper floors as well, so you filter exiting air removing some of the CO2. Since it is just concentrating existing sunlight, the 2000-2600 degree air should not be a problem

The other option is massive arrays out in the desert, each slowly producing 2.5 gallons per day.

Cars, no.
The author of the article wrote:The prototype will be about the size and shape of a beer keg. It will contain 14 cobalt ferrite rings, each about one foot in diameter and turning at one revolution per minute. An 88-square meter solar furnace will blast sunlight into the unit, heating the rings to about 2,600 degrees Fahrenheit. At that temperature, cobalt ferrite releases oxygen. When the rings cool to about 2,000 degrees, they're exposed to CO2.
Assuming a circle, the 5.3 meter radius of the furnace will make traffic shady, but difficult.
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