"Meanest mom on the planet" sells teen's car - LOL

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2008-01-10 09:44pm

alexholker wrote:
Knife wrote:Why? You expect a reasonable parent to let a kid keep a car when either he/she lies about drinking in it or does not moderate what comes into his/her car? This just stinks of teenage self-entitlement to me. He didn't own the car, didn't pay for it, and didn't follow the rules set forth for him to use the car.
My point is that her rule was poorly defined and went beyond what was neccessary to protect the car or her kid. Hence, as I said, if I had been in her son's place, I would not have assumed that the presence of an unopened bottle of alcohol would have broken her rules.

No booze in the car means no goddamned booze in the car, moron. I don't give a flying fuck whether it's opened, or who drank it, or what other kind of plausible deniability you can come up with. And what kind of flaming imbecile thinks that "no booze in the car" is an unreasonable rule, anyway? Oh yeah, you.

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2008-01-10 09:47pm

Darth Servo wrote:
Teebs wrote:At first after reading this I thought, "the kid's 19, who cares if he has alcohol the mum sounds like a complete nutter." Then I put two and two together booze + car = completely justified. It's hard to believe any parent would be stupid enough not to do something drastic about drinking and driving from their kids.
Even without the drinking and driving point, 19 is still too young to legally drink.

That's not entirely correct. Some states, you can drink at home or under parental supervision and even for some educational purposes, under the age of 21.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2008-01-10 09:49pm

havokeff wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:Even without the drinking and driving point, 19 is still too young to legally drink.
That's not entirely correct. Some states, you can drink at home or under parental supervision and even for some educational purposes, under the age of 21.

Well, having a bottle in the car doesn't exactly fall under any of those "exceptions"

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2008-01-10 10:39pm

Darth Servo wrote:
havokeff wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:Even without the drinking and driving point, 19 is still too young to legally drink.
That's not entirely correct. Some states, you can drink at home or under parental supervision and even for some educational purposes, under the age of 21.
Well, having a bottle in the car doesn't exactly fall under any of those "exceptions"

Yup. I was just responding to the second part.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2008-01-10 10:43pm

Can't you ALWAYS drink at home or under parental supervision? Drinking in public is always illegal and minors can't be served at licenced premises, but I didn't think any laws in the US prohibited private, 'at home' drinking.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2008-01-10 10:46pm

Stark wrote:Can't you ALWAYS drink at home or under parental supervision? Drinking in public is always illegal and minors can't be served at licenced premises, but I didn't think any laws in the US prohibited private, 'at home' drinking.

It depends on how nosy your neighbors are and the state you live in. Parents giving kids alcohol while underaged can be slapped with shit like "contributing to the deliquency of a minor" and other fun stuff if they get reported.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2008-01-10 10:48pm

General Zod wrote:
Stark wrote:Can't you ALWAYS drink at home or under parental supervision? Drinking in public is always illegal and minors can't be served at licenced premises, but I didn't think any laws in the US prohibited private, 'at home' drinking.
It depends on how nosy your neighbors are and the state you live in. Parents giving kids alcohol while underaged can be slapped with shit like "contributing to the deliquency of a minor" and other fun stuff if they get reported.

So if I decide to give Matthew a taste of beer so he'll know what it's like rather than thinking of it as some kind of magical forbidden fruit for the next 7 years, I'd better not tell anyone about it?

Terralthra · Post by **Terralthra** » 2008-01-10 10:51pm

Darth Wong wrote: So if I decide to give Matthew a taste of beer so he'll know what it's like rather than thinking of it as some kind of magical forbidden fruit for the next 7 years, I'd better not tell anyone about it?

I doubt you'd get convicted. The last successfully prosecuted case of parental contribution to the delinquency of a minor in my area was when a parent arranged for a sweet sixteen party for her daughter, complete with a keg of beer and a male stripper.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2008-01-10 10:59pm

Can't you ALWAYS drink at home or under parental supervision? Drinking in public is always illegal and minors can't be served at licenced premises, but I didn't think any laws in the US prohibited private, 'at home' drinking.

Due to this falling under the purview of state governments, underage drinking laws are a patchwork across the country. There are a number of states where any under-21 consumption is prohibited, period, no exceptions for family or location. There are states that make exceptions, and then there are states where under-21 consumption is not explicitly prohibited but under-21 purchase is, and "furnishing alcohol to minors" is also an offense. But of course, under-21 purchase/consumption is effectively illegal everywhere because Congress likes to make my life difficult.

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2008-01-10 11:23pm

Darth Wong wrote:
General Zod wrote:
Stark wrote:Can't you ALWAYS drink at home or under parental supervision? Drinking in public is always illegal and minors can't be served at licenced premises, but I didn't think any laws in the US prohibited private, 'at home' drinking.
It depends on how nosy your neighbors are and the state you live in. Parents giving kids alcohol while underaged can be slapped with shit like "contributing to the deliquency of a minor" and other fun stuff if they get reported.
So if I decide to give Matthew a taste of beer so he'll know what it's like rather than thinking of it as some kind of magical forbidden fruit for the next 7 years, I'd better not tell anyone about it?

Depends. What are Canada's laws on the matter. I'm sure here in the States some cock hole lawyer could find a way to twist it into child endangerment or unfit parenting or some such bullshit, but hell, I wouldn't tell anyone about it.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-01-11 03:34am

Terralthra wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:Drive safe, be home on time or call us if you can't, no friends over after midnight, no women behind closed doors.
Not to digress too much, but my fiancée's family had the same rule regarding the opposite sex behind closed doors. Most of them got the point; her younger sister (while in high school), on the other hand, decided that the best way to not break the rule was to give a guy a blowjob with the door open. Of course, she was caught in the act.

Which just goes to show science has yet to develop a cure for 'stupid'.

Teebs · Post by **Teebs** » 2008-01-11 05:29am

Darth Servo wrote:Even without the drinking and driving point, 19 is still too young to legally drink.

I'm British, it's 18 here, so my mistake.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2008-01-11 06:21am

CaptainChewbacca wrote:I don't kow if the laws vary state-to-state, but in California any container of alcohol, opened or unopened, that isn't locked in the trunk can result in severe fines and penalties for the driver of the car AND the owner.

Booze in teen driver's car = illegal.

Hang on, if you have a crate of beer on the backseat completely unopened, that's illegal in california?

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2008-01-11 06:35am

"Poorly defined?" Bwahaha!

And CC, you don't have to put your beer you're bringing home from the store in the trunk. There's no "trunk" law in the California penal code; just don't open the containers.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2008-01-11 06:44am

Errr, actually that's vehicle code.

Meest · Post by **Meest** » 2008-01-11 07:09am

Too bad she wasn't the legal guardian of the Hogan's. Need more stuff like this, combat the emo whiny teens with their own medicine so they realize being "grounded" won't ruin your life but maybe save it. Who the hell even just drops booze off in other people's cars? Either way that kid needed a lesson.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-01-11 11:25am

Superman wrote:"Poorly defined?" Bwahaha!

And CC, you don't have to put your beer you're bringing home from the store in the trunk. There's no "trunk" law in the California penal code; just don't open the containers.

In California, if you are under 21 and there is beer in the cab of the vehicle, and nobody OVER 21 is present, that's against the law.

Trust me, missing that question made me fail my permit test the first time. Its not open container, its ANY container if you're under 21.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2008-01-11 12:05pm

Darth Wong wrote: So if I decide to give Matthew a taste of beer so he'll know what it's like rather than thinking of it as some kind of magical forbidden fruit for the next 7 years, I'd better not tell anyone about it?

You'd have to do something stupid (as already cited) like provide a fucking keg party with liquor for him and his friends who drove all while underage, and they'd have to still be loud or pulled over with a DUI in order to actually get arrested.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2008-01-11 12:12pm

Good for that mother. I do not feel sorry for that spoiled brat one minute. Wah mom looked in my, her car, and found a bottle of beer, does it matter if it was open, and sold his wheels because of a previously know rule that was the condition of sing the car she was paying for.

I still am not sure how this makes her the nosiest mother on the planet. Here is a clue idiot, If you aren't paying the title the car isn't your. Can't live by the rules to let you use it. Too bad.

Enigma · Post by **Enigma** » 2008-01-11 12:17pm

Darth Servo wrote:edit: I want the phone number.

Got it if you want it.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2008-01-11 04:44pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:In California, if you are under 21 and there is beer in the cab of the vehicle, and nobody OVER 21 is present, that's against the law.

Right... so what does the trunk have to do with it? It would be illegal for it to be in the trunk too.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2008-01-11 04:47pm

Superman wrote:
Right... so what does the trunk have to do with it? It would be illegal for it to be in the trunk too.

Because you can't get to it while your driving. BC and Ontario have similar laws

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-01-11 04:51pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:
Superman wrote:
Right... so what does the trunk have to do with it? It would be illegal for it to be in the trunk too.
Because you can't get to it while your driving. BC and Ontario have similar laws

Exactly. Anywhere in the cab, you could conceivably reach. The law is written that way so you don't have to be 21 to commercially transport alcohol in California.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2008-01-11 04:56pm

Terralthra wrote:Not to digress too much, but my fiancée's family had the same rule regarding the opposite sex behind closed doors. Most of them got the point; her younger sister (while in high school), on the other hand, decided that the best way to not break the rule was to give a guy a blowjob with the door open. Of course, she was caught in the act.

The best solution is obviously to have members of the same sex behind closed doors.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2008-01-11 08:01pm

Cpl Kendall wrote: Because you can't get to it while your driving. BC and Ontario have similar laws

Here's the actual law:

23224. (a) No person under the age of 21 years shall knowingly drive any motor vehicle carrying any alcoholic beverage, unless the person is accompanied by a parent, responsible adult relative, any other adult designated by the parent, or legal guardian for the purpose of transportation of an alcoholic beverage, or is employed by a licensee under the Alcoholic Beverage Control Act (Division 9 (commencing with Section 23000) of the Business and Professions Code), and is driving the motor vehicle during regular hours and in the course of the person's employment. If the driver was unaccompanied, he or she shall have a complete defense if he or she was following, in a timely manner, the reasonable instructions of his or her parent, legal guardian, responsible adult relative, or adult designee relating to disposition of the alcoholic beverage.

I had to learn this shit for the corrections academy a few years ago. Minors can't be in possession, unless they're operating a truck or something. [/quote]