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The Climate Change Debate Over

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When you use probabilistic risk management as your argument, it's hard not to see reason.

This one teacher has done what Gore never could, in my opinion. Telling people they're going to experience all the worst parts of the Bible and then Ragnarok thrown in for good measure, may work for some, but others are still active deniers. If you instead simplify the reasoning in the way you'd probably weigh up your own finances or what have you, then it becomes far more easily digested.

I wish this guy luck. He's already got a fair few hits on this, so maybe the word is getting out.
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The whole "About this Video" section screams "DON'T WATCH THIS VIDEO!"
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Surlethe wrote:The whole "About this Video" section screams "DON'T WATCH THIS VIDEO!"
And we all know kids love being told what to do.

Ah, reverse psychology, how I love thee.
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Apparently, there was a hole in the argument of the video you linked. This one fixes it.
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Yeah, was just watching that one, even though I linked the Yahoo! one first. His videos raise good points and regardless of the original's hole, the overall message is one I can't find anyone with an ounce of sense would ignore.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Surlethe wrote:The whole "About this Video" section screams "DON'T WATCH THIS VIDEO!"
And we all know kids love being told what to do.

No actually, it's because that video has a "hole large enough to drive a Hummer through". He made another, better, one with no such hole.
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Adrian Laguna wrote:
No actually, it's because that video has a "hole large enough to drive a Hummer through". He made another, better, one with no such hole.
Well, really the point is still the same, just that he expanded on it in a better way after having a tonne of feedback. The principle of weighing up risk versus cost underlies all the videos.
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I never was a Global Warming denier, but now my mind is truly settled. I'm posting this on every forum I know that doesn't have it already.
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Surlethe wrote:The whole "About this Video" section screams "DON'T WATCH THIS VIDEO!"
Interesting way to get people to watch his other video, I suppose.
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Having thought about this, I now realise that the type of argument presented in the OP can also be used with regard to Peak Oil - in addition to simply being foolish to base our whole civilisation on one fuel source,it makes sense to plan for the worst and hope for the best, especially considering the consequences of planning for the worst are better than then consequences of not doing so and turning out to be wrong.

The fact that oil is a finite resource seems to pass many people by, as well.
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The argument is a fundamental basis for big business and insurance, simply because you can not bet your whole corporate portfolio on the chances of something that might happen not happening.

As the guy said in the video, no one expects they'll wake up to a flooded house one day, but it could happen if you're in a prone area and that is why we take out insurance. We don't need to know 100% that something will happen and when it will happen when talking about home security, so why should the only planet we have be any different?
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This is one of the best advocacy videos I have yet to see about climate change. His video on the mechanics of climate change are also particularly informative. I hope his message gets out there because I think he actually explains climate change better than Gore does.
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