Cybernetic Implants?

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Lord Pounder wrote:
NeoGoomba wrote:I don't have the books anymore, but I distinctly remember him telling Joruus that he was "seriously" considering the use of borg implants before he stumbled upon Mount Tantiss.
Can anyone provide a quote on this because it's really not how I remember the first Thrawn Book. I thought he used the example of borg implants as a negative.
IIRC this is the only mention of borg implants in the Thrawn Trilogy:
Heir to the Empire p50 wrote:It was the Emperor's will that drove you; the Emperor's mind that provided you with strength and resolve and efficiency. You were as dependant on that presence as if you were all borg-implanted into a combat computer.
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Well then sucks to me!

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After being so wrong, I had to double check, and this was what threw off my feeble memory.
"Not at all, Master C'baoth," Thrawn told him, his voice perfectly calm again. "My analogy with combat borg implants was a carefully considered one."
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NeoGoomba wrote:Well then sucks to me!

EDIT:

After being so wrong, I had to double check, and this was what threw off my feeble memory.
"Not at all, Master C'baoth," Thrawn told him, his voice perfectly calm again. "My analogy with combat borg implants was a carefully considered one."
-Heir to the Empire
And once again I'll point out that Thrawn was not using the example of borg implants in a possitive sense. Thrawn had a reputation of rewarding original and innovative thinking, actually promoting a tractorbeam controller for showing some adapability in the attempted capture of Luke Skywalker. So why the feck would he want a battle computer doing the thinking for his Fleet?
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I am not sure about "original thinking". Thrawn's approach to combat is what you see in fanfics. If the US Navy had a Thrawn like guy his ships would have railguns installed for a particular mission and sport lasers next time they face Chineese missile boats. Innovative strategies and Star Trek like "reconfiguring the deflector dish" are two different things.
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Sarevok wrote:I am not sure about "original thinking". Thrawn's approach to combat is what you see in fanfics. If the US Navy had a Thrawn like guy his ships would have railguns installed for a particular mission and sport lasers next time they face Chineese missile boats. Innovative strategies and Star Trek like "reconfiguring the deflector dish" are two different things.
As an aside, I never really got why "creative thinking" is a plus in any combat situation. If you are smart enough to bring what is logical to a gun, do what makes sense to do, then you really shouldnt need creative thinking.

Also, creative thinking seems to mean jack shit if you are simply outgunned and outmatched.
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Lazarus wrote: That argument only works so far. Certainly, it's not necessary for the Empire to build millions of warships, even though they could, but consider real world examples. The USA spends massive amounts of money and resources on military hardware which isn't used, and probably never will be, because it's hard to imagine a viable situation where a shooting war between the US and a nation with similar military capabilities could occur. Anti-aircraft batteries, submarines, ICBM's, ship-to-ship missiles...
And your evidencec for this claim? And why we should assume that this represents the state of affairs in the REpublic (even given things like, you know, the Clone Wars.. didn't you watch the movies?)
The UK is still building hunter killer submarines at the cost of £3.5 billion each, which are utterly and entirely useless in actuality. Their only justification for existing is that if we stop building them, we'll lose the capability to build more. It is entirely possible, and indeed likely, that affluent governments will spend massive amounts of money on military procurement that has no practical use, but maintains a theoretical importance. This will apply to the Empire as much as any real world nation.
Really? And where does the capability magically "vanish" to if you stop building something, ,pray tell?
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Lord Pounder wrote:
NeoGoomba wrote:Well then sucks to me!

EDIT:

After being so wrong, I had to double check, and this was what threw off my feeble memory.
"Not at all, Master C'baoth," Thrawn told him, his voice perfectly calm again. "My analogy with combat borg implants was a carefully considered one."
-Heir to the Empire
And once again I'll point out that Thrawn was not using the example of borg implants in a possitive sense.
No fucking shit. Did you not catch the whole "and this was what threw off my feeble memory"? I haven't read the fucking things in years, I dug this quote off a website to show where my mistake came from.
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