Opinion of Ex Astris Scientia

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-12-19 09:38am

Decent enough site...like the archives.

Though the guy seems to love anything Trek...which I'm glad he doesn't(or currently doesn't) engage in ST vs wars.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-12-19 10:00am

Darth Pounder wrote:rated it ok. Untill i see the day that a ST site admits that SW is better i'll never give one better than ok. Still the author of this shie doesn't have his head up his ass trying to claim Soverigns are 10KM long like one site i saw.

That is just pathetic. His website has NOTHING to do with the VS debates and your stance on the issue is apalling.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-12-19 10:21am

It's a good site. A good place to find canon information but the analysis is rather poor. Too much psuedoscience.

And why is that a trek site needs to implicitly concede theVS debate even when it has nothing to do with it? Would you expect Curtis Saxton to say "Wars would stomp Trek" on his site which likewise has nothing to do with the VS debates?

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-12-19 10:23am

Indeed, Darth Pounder, it's an incredibly irrational position to take.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-19 01:51pm

I didn't have any problems with the site, Bernd even helped me once in a vs. debate, though I doubt he actually knew it was for that purpose, I was debating wheter the warpcore was a subspace power tap or a MA/AM generator, he agreed with me.

Though some of this news brought up here is rather depressing for me to hear that he's not adhering to the scientific method and his stance on vs. debating(that they can't be compared and so on).

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-12-19 02:28pm

FUCK YOU. If i wanted to be bitched by a cunt at i'd phone my ex fiance

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-12-19 02:30pm

Shut the hell up.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-12-19 07:49pm

Darth Pounder wrote:FUCK YOU. If i wanted to be bitched by a cunt at i'd phone my ex fiance

Dream on lamer. You made a retarded statement and got called on it. Next time try using that organ on your shoulders.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-12-20 02:56am

Personally, I think its a decent site. Especially for reference material. Some of their arguements are a little flawed, but thats to be expected. Nobody is perfect.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-12-20 03:01am

Darth Pounder wrote:FUCK YOU. If i wanted to be bitched by a cunt at i'd phone my ex fiance

I finally have a use for that image!

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2002-12-20 07:34am

The sites good. From a web design point of view it's not bad at all, though I don't like the layout (the things I big table so you've got to keep loading the navigation, give me a frameset any day).
From a content point of view, it's not top notch, but you can even learn something from it's flaws, so I'll give it a decent.

Anyway, the person who said they won't look at a StarTrek site unless it has a disclaimer that says that StarWars is better needs to maybe think for a second. It's not a versus site. Why should the builder put such a disclaimer on a purely StarTrek site? StarWars is irrelevant to the sites content, whether StarWars can whip StarTrek or not.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-01-19 06:33pm

Well Bernd saw this topic and posted a counter thread here:
[link snipped]

Let's not start a board war, OK? ~Crayz9000

Post by **AdmiralKanos** » 2003-01-19 09:21pm

Bernd Schneider wrote:Never bother me with such childish requests. The two science fiction universes were designed to remain strictly separate. While it is already hard to apply the rules of real-world physics to either of them, the two fictions are absolutely irreconcilable with each other. You are free to create a cross-over fan fiction, but don't expect it to make any sense, much less expect to find any valid "proof" why your ship should be superior to one of a different universe. And aside from that, I hate the fanboyish bias of cross-over fiction that seems to fulfill the only purpose to disparage the other fiction. You will receive no support whatsoever from me in such an attempt.

Didn't stop him from giving Graham Kennedy's site, with the most grotesquely biased crossover fanfic in history, a big thumbs-up and top awards, did it?

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-01-19 09:35pm

I like the site, lots of nice info, pics and I like that museum with fan created ships.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-01-20 01:30am

Darth Pounder wrote:FUCK YOU. If i wanted to be bitched by a cunt at i'd phone my ex fiance

Shut the hell up, Pounder. You have no right to come into a thread like this and deliberately hijack it to serve your own purposes, particularly after NUMEROUS posters already (correctly) dismissed your comments as being irrational, you then berated them purposelessly. Desist from this activity at once.

Red Knight · Post by **Red Knight** » 2003-01-20 01:43am

I think that Ex Astris Scientia is one of the better Trek sites out there, I have used it several times for various things, and its layout is better than most.

I knida like the fact that it establishes itself as not going into the Vs. Debates, we dont need every Star Trek or Star Wars site engaging in the debate, the amount that there is now is enough.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-20 01:47am

It's a good source of information. He just doesn't care to subject it to rational analysis, that's all.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-01-20 01:47am

Incidentally, Pounder, I guess what really set me off about your post was the idea that a ST site must somehow justify itself to you by admitting that SW would win in order to establish itself as a reasonable site. No site should have to deal with anything outside of its expertise in order to become reasonable. If I made a site about Star Wars, I don't think it would be particularly fair to be judged on my comparative lack of knowledge of SG-1, and I don't think that someone should be held at fault for that. If I asked you to referee the soccer games I've done this weekend (state championship tournament for California), you'd probably be clueless, but that has nothing to do with your knowledge of science fiction and is not a "problem" or even a negative mark. I was roundly criticized on SB.com for not addressing various concerns on my rebuttal of Mr. Anderson's site, but what many of the posters did was treat my rebuttal as if I should have rebutted every POSSIBLE argument, and that was clearly unreasonable.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-01-20 01:52am

I don't think it's a good site, nor a bad site. So I voted for okay, because I haven't visited it

Red Knight · Post by **Red Knight** » 2003-01-20 02:10am

I don't think it's a good site, nor a bad site. So I voted for okay, because I haven't visited it

Not the best way to vote on polls.....

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-01-20 02:12am

Would you rather he voted Star Trek?! Evil!! Rargh!

Yeesh...so he didn't take it seriously

Red Knight · Post by **Red Knight** » 2003-01-20 02:20am

Would you rather he voted Star Trek?! Evil!! Rargh!

Yeesh...so he didn't take it seriously:roll:

Good point.

Publius · Post by **Publius** » 2003-01-20 01:11pm

In general, Ex Astris Scientia is a useful depository for Star Trek information, especially with regard to the dimensions and aesthetics of starships. Amongst Star Trek sites, it is of better quality and usefulness than most.

Publius

Post by **AdmiralKanos** » 2003-01-20 01:18pm

Publius wrote:In general, Ex Astris Scientia is a useful depository for Star Trek information, especially with regard to the dimensions and aesthetics of starships. Amongst Star Trek sites, it is of better quality and usefulness than most.

Publius

Fair enough. I just wish I knew why its author would be running around talking trash about me this whole time, since I haven't mentioned him once since we exchanged E-mail several years ago (until now, when I found out what he's been doing). Is he really that much of a sore loser?

Publius · Post by **Publius** » 2003-01-20 07:53pm

By all appearances, yes. Quite so, in fact.

Hostility toward you personally appears to be a common ground among certain Star Trek site creators.

Publius

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