You may NOT Declaw that cat

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-01-20 02:05am

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20030117_1306.html

This people seriously need to mind their own business.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-01-20 02:14am

That sums up West Hollywood pretty well. Being a dog person, and being allergic to cats, doesn't mean I think de-clawing is a super thing to do, though. Just like bobbing a dog's tail or having their ears trimmed.

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2003-01-20 02:16am

Cruel, eh?
Isn't de-clawing suppose to be painless?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-01-20 02:19am

These people have no common sense; making the declawing of cats illegal would be disastrous for cat adoption.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-01-20 02:29am

Captain tycho wrote:Cruel, eh?
Isn't de-clawing suppose to be painless?

I'd hope it would be. But cats rely on their claws for mobility to a certain extant, it would be like having your big toe amputated, you'd still get around, but you'd miss it when you tried to run.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-01-20 02:29am

Generaly I'm against declawing, with a few exceptions *coughHemlockGreycoughcough*

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-01-20 02:31am

Durran Korr wrote:These people have no common sense; making the declawing of cats illegal would be disastrous for cat adoption.

I didn't think of that.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2003-01-20 02:35am

True, but those sons of bitches normally live a life of luxury. Not like they need to fuckers to survive.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-20 02:37am

And besides, we wouldn't want HemlockGrey to get what's left of his nuts ripped off.

Hyperion · Post by **Hyperion** » 2003-01-20 02:41am

Being an owner of 7 cats, I see both sides.

I've seen what happens when a cat is declawed, it's not pretty, the sutures tend to dissolve (just how a cat's system is set up) and open, which means they bleed all over everything, it's very oviously VERY painful to them as well, they also loose their primary defense mechanism.

But, a cat is a destructive beast, they tend to put claws into EVERYTHING, even if they're trained.

None of my cats are declawed and I intend to keep them that way, even though "Rat Cat" is getting to a point where she may have to be declawed since she cannot retract them for some reason, so she sticks to everthing.

As for dealing with the cats spiking people and shredding furniture, a pair of fingernail clippers, and a few minutes each week per cat solves that, I've been doing that for years, no problems thus far and 100% effective.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-20 07:59am

Frank Hipper wrote:
Captain tycho wrote:Cruel, eh?
Isn't de-clawing suppose to be painless?
I'd hope it would be. But cats rely on their claws for mobility to a certain extant, it would be like having your big toe amputated, you'd still get around, but you'd miss it when you tried to run.

Have you ever owned a cat? I do, at home we've got three cats all declawed. Trust me they get around just fine with out them. All you usually see of one of them is a tan blur. Assuming you get the declawed at an early age they don't have a problem adapting at all. Older cat cats have a harder time but will get used to it.

And if the vet does it properly they'll have sore feet for at most a week or so with the blood and horrible pain animal rights nuts describe.

Coaan · Post by **Coaan** » 2003-01-20 08:11am

People and their superior god complexes again...

Just one of these days I would like to see these animals get their own back on the human race, speaking as a cat owner, I wouldn't put my cat through that if you paid me X amount of cash..and if scratching is a problem...here's some advice...Buy a scratching pole...it comes with built in cat nip so it does work to attract them and keep them away from furnature.

And if it scratches you....just don't piss it off!

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2003-01-20 09:18am

If I had a cat, I would never de-claw them. But I think the outlaw of such practices may not be a good idea. If it comes down to an owner having to decide between de-clawing, and sending their cat to the shelter, I'd think the de-clawing would be the better choice.

That makes me wonder, which would you guys choose; de-clawing, or animal shelter?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-20 10:08am

My cat is not and never will be declawed.

PAIN...

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-01-20 10:15am

I'm not suprised at this news, since California leads the country in nut production.

Anyway, if your cat is ripping up your furniture, you have the right to get htem declawed. If my caty was doing that, I would. I don't care if I wouldn't want it, since I don't go around scartching the furniture up with my blunt, fragile fingernails. The three cats I have were all declawed, and they're fine right now.

These animal rights wackos should get back to lobbying to change football team names.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2003-01-20 10:21am

I usually default by not getting my cat declawed, because it CAN make them aggressive and cause males to spray more. That and there are perfectly practical methods of discouraging furniture destruction among cats.

However, I cannot imagine what prompts these people to call declawing an act of pointless multilation. I certainly hope none of those damned protesters and actors supporting this are circumcised or have had cosmetic surgery or anything.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2003-01-20 10:31am

I think that there should be a age limit to how old the cat can be to get declawed and once passed this age limit cannot get declawed.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-01-20 12:42pm

Stormbringer wrote:And if the vet does it properly they'll have sore feet for at most a week or so with the blood and horrible pain animal rights nuts describe.

Don't you mean without?

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2003-01-20 01:18pm

That's just cruel and unneccesary.
If you own a cat, you have to fucking live with the fact that they use furniture for scratching.
One can buy a scratching post, or just plain live with the fact.

I have one cat, and 3 more at my mum's home, and no one would think of declawing them. They have ruined some furniture, but that's something to live with.

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DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-01-20 02:38pm

Durran Korr wrote:These people have no common sense; making the declawing of cats illegal would be disastrous for cat adoption.

Ah, but people in Hollywood don't adopt animals, they just advocate the adoption of animals.

When they want a cat, they call up a professional breeder in [insert European country here].

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-01-20 02:41pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:These people have no common sense; making the declawing of cats illegal would be disastrous for cat adoption.
Ah, but people in Hollywood don't adopt animals, they just advocate the adoption of animals.

When they want a cat, they call up a professional breeder in [insert European country here].

Of course, it doesn't matter to these sanctimonious fucktards that their stupid idea would probably mean euthanasia for hundreds of cats, because they get to feel good about themselves.

Korvan · Post by **Korvan** » 2003-01-20 02:59pm

I have to say that I don't like the idea of declawing and if I had a cat I'd choose not to get it declawed. However, other people have different priorities than myself and they have the right ot make their own choices, even if I disagree with them.

Soon, however, genetics could give us "naturally" declawed cats, although if I had a genetically altered pet, it wouldn't be such a mundane alteration. Now a flying, fire breathing cat...

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-01-20 03:15pm

Hyperion wrote:
None of my cats are declawed and I intend to keep them that way, even though "Rat Cat" is getting to a point where she may have to be declawed since she cannot retract them for some reason, so she sticks to everthing.

You don't have to declaw the cat, just trim her nails. I assume this cat is kept indoors? If so her nails are retracted it is just that they are so long that they are sticking out. That's why they scratch things, it keeps their claws worn down.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-01-20 03:16pm

Scratching posts aren't worth the carpet remnants they're made out of. Cats scratch furniture, and these self-righteous blowhards pissing and moaning about "mutilation" have obviously never had a $2000 living room set destroyed by a pair of $15 cats. Competently done, declawing leaves them sore for a week. As for their balance, one of mine weighs 18 pounds and can leap up on top of an entertainment center completely covered in greeting cards and picture frames and not knock a single thing over.

Domestic cats get food, water, shelter, medical care, protection from predators, and affection, and they live three times as long as feral cats. Losing their claws is a small price to pay for all this, IMHO.

(Note that this only applies to indoor cats. Outdoor cats need their claws for defense and taking the heads off small woodland creatures. I'd never get an outdoor cat declawed.)

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-01-20 03:20pm

Feeding Time at Transcends?

Oh, btw how about the cute little kitties over here, please someone adopt these cute little Bobbies, and how about the furry little mounties.