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Measles outbreak in San Diego- unvaccinated spread disease

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By Cheryl Clark
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February 16, 2008

Five more children in San Diego have tested positive for measles, bringing to 11 the total number of patients in a month long outbreak that has spread to schools, grocery stores, the Del Mar Fairgrounds and Hawaii, county officials said yesterday.


Two other youngsters have developed symptoms of measles, but county officials have not discovered a link between them and the current outbreak.

One of the newly confirmed patients is an 8-year-old who may have spread the measles virus during a visit to Whole Foods Market in Hillcrest that started at 5 p.m. and lasted about an hour Jan. 29.

Two days later, the child attended “Corteo,” a performance by the group Cirque du Soleil, at the fairgrounds. He or she may have infected spectators and employees at the 4 and 8 p.m. shows.

The child also went to Trader Joe's in Hillcrest between 1 and 2 p.m. Feb. 3.

“It is extremely important that people, particularly children . . . are aware that they may have been exposed to measles,” said Dr. Wilma Wooten, the county's public health officer. The potentially fatal and highly contagious disease takes several weeks to run its course.

Wooten said there's no longer an infection risk at the fairgrounds and two supermarkets because the measles virus can't survive for more than two hours after it is expelled by a cough or sneeze.

Facts about measles

Highly infectious viral disease is transmitted through respiratory droplets from the nose and mouth.

Takes seven to 18 days for symptoms to appear after infection.

Symptoms include fever, runny nose, cough, loss of appetite, “pink eye” and a rash lasting five or six days.

Complications include diarrhea, ear infections and pneumonia.

Permanent brain damage in one per 1,000 infected children in the United States. Death in up to three per 1,000 infected children.

Vaccination helps protect against measles, mumps and rubella.

Information: Contact county health officials at (619) 692-8661.

Sources: San Diego County Health & Human Services Agency; national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
The measles outbreak is San Diego County's first since 1991. It began when a 7-year-old patient returned from Switzerland on Jan. 15 with what would later be confirmed as measles. He or she infected two siblings and at least four classmates. The 8-year-old patient identified yesterday is a classmate of the 7-year-old.

On Jan. 25, the 7-year-old's parents took the youngster to the Children's Clinic of La Jolla. The child may have coughed and sneezed in the office, thus infecting four other children.

Those four patients returned to the clinic between Feb. 5 and 8, possibly spreading the virus to 60 other children.

All of the 11 confirmed patients, from 10 months to 9 years old, were not vaccinated either because they were younger than 1 – the minimum age for measles inoculation – or because their parents objected to having them vaccinated, county officials said.


School leaders, health officials and physicians say they hope the outbreak will persuade parents to have their children inoculated against measles, mumps and rubella. They said the vaccine is safe.

However, a growing number of parents are exercising their right under California law to decline vaccination for their children. They fear that vaccines may be linked to autism.

Measles was widespread in the United States before a vaccine was developed in the early 1960s. At that time, many parents felt relieved when their children got measles because the infection meant the youngsters would be immunized for the rest of their lives.

Today, non-immunization rates throughout San Diego County average 1.6 percent in preschool students and 2.5 percent in kindergartners, Wooten said.

As the outbreak continues to unfold, health officials in San Diego and Hawaii are trying to track down the thousands of individuals potentially exposed to measles.

Infection experts from the national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the state Department of Health Services are working with more than 30 of San Diego County's employees.

These health officials are seeking prospective patients linked to the San Diego Cooperative Charter School in Linda Vista; Children's Clinic of La Jolla in Bird Rock; School of the Madeleine and the Alcott Elementary School Infant & Toddler Development Program, both in Clairemont; Baldwin Academy and Murray Callan Swim School, both in Pacific Beach; the fairgrounds; and the two grocery stores in Hillcrest.

Hawaiian health officials are contacting the roughly 250 passengers who may have been exposed to measles from an infected child aboard Hawaiian Airlines Flight 15, which left Lindbergh Field on Feb. 9. Also potentially affected are people who were at the airport's Terminal 2, Gate 41 between 8:30 a.m. and 12:30 p.m. that day.

Measles causes a high fever, cough, runny nose and watery eyes. A rash usually follows.

In the United States, measles can be fatal in up to three per 1,000 children who contract it. The death rates are higher in developing countries.

Children are more at risk of suffering complications, including pneumonia and swelling of the brain, than senior citizens. Most adults have been immunized by the measles vaccine or by getting measles when they were young.

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It's only a matter or time before vaccinated individuals start showing up as cases as well, since the vaccine is only creates immunity in 95% of people (according to the package insert).

You'd think this would prove a point, yet all the champions of non-vaccination that I know are just saying it's "cool" and "good for these kids, now they have natural immunity!"
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These people drive me nuts. They're kids have been safe because all the people around them had their shots. Now enough of them are not and it gives a reservoir for the disease. From what my wife says, Whole Foods is a 'organic' type place so makes sense these 'back to nature/not shots' people would go there. Funny that thats where they start spreading a disease.
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After the first couple of children inevitably die due to this, hopefully we'll see a public backlash against the anti-vaccination tards.
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Jadeite wrote:After the first couple of children inevitably die due to this, hopefully we'll see a public backlash against the anti-vaccination tards.
It appears that having regular reminders in the form of dead children is the only way to get people to support vaccinations.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Jadeite wrote:After the first couple of children inevitably die due to this, hopefully we'll see a public backlash against the anti-vaccination tards.
It appears that having regular reminders in the form of dead children is the only way to get people to support vaccinations.
I hate to admit it, but you're right. As soon as the first child dies (and Lord Willing it will only be one!), there will be a backlash of 'why didn't (the govt) do more', and it will eventually turn to 'Why didn't you have your child vaccinated'. It will be especially nasty if a child too young for vaccination dies from exposure to an deliberately un-vaccinated child.
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Given a day's itinerary of Whole Foods, Cirque du Soleil, and Trader Joe's I'm going to walk out on a limb and guess this is a child of upper middle class/lower upper class parents with college educations. In other words, neither ignorance nor poverty is an excuse here. Wonder if the parents can be brought up on some sort of reckless endangerment charges, not only in regards to their child but the others exposed as well.

If the child dies I will feel bad for the child, but the parents will get little sympathy from me.

In addition to those not vaccinated and those for whom the vaccine was ineffective, those with suppressed immune systems are also vulnerable because, well, duh their systems are not reacting very strongly to anything.
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LadyTevar wrote:It will be especially nasty if a child too young for vaccination dies from exposure to an deliberately un-vaccinated child.
That sounds like a wrongful death lawsuit in the making.
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I hate this New Age, be-a-Google-doctor bullshit. Maybe life sucked before evil industry and modernity and vaccines because people died all the fucking time. I dunno...maybe.
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There was a huge Mumps outbreak in Eastern Canada recently, and it came to Southern Alberta soon after. There was a huge campaign to vaccinate as many people as possible. Free for staff and students at the Uni and the College, the Mumps Measles and Rubella vaccine.

Long long lines, but they advertised the effects quite well (flaming basketballs!). It's a shame when the kids are too young to make the decision themselves on whether they want to get vaccinated or not.
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Measles: Nature's way of punishing bad parenting.

Don't want a jab? Fine. Here's a tip: Spend the time perusing child sized coffins instead.
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You adapted that from House, didn't you? :P
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You know what's the stupidest part about all this?
However, a growing number of parents are exercising their right under California law to decline vaccination for their children. They fear that vaccines may be linked to autism.
Vaccines should be mandatory, anyone who doesn't like it is free to move to Liberia, Somalia, or any other uncivilized shit-hole of their choosing.
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Uraniun235 wrote:You adapted that from House, didn't you? :P
If I did, it was subconscious. I can't recall him using that phrase from memory, but given I own all the seasons and would act like House if a doctor, it doesn't surprise me.

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The bolded really cracks me:
Permanent brain damage in one per 1,000 infected children in the United States. Death in up to three per 1,000 infected children.

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However, a growing number of parents are exercising their right under California law to decline vaccination for their children. They fear that vaccines may be linked to autism.
So they fear brain damage (autism) from vaccinations, so they risk their children getting brain damage from... measles. The latter of which is proven, unlike the first one.

I know... I know... They don't know. But that's why you leave these kinds of decisions to medical professionals, m'kay?
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ONE dickhead GP used a flawed study of his own design to bring up autism. Every mother in the country is suddenly a certified physician and figures the uproar over this GP's comments are because of a government cover-up and the BMA being in cahoots.

Cut to largest measles outbreak in quarter of a century and the first death in however many decades and herd immunity dropping to barely 80%.

It's people like this that create Dr. Greg House. Unfortunately, the cure for stupidity is a work in progress.
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I've heard a physician take on anti vaccination idiots on a radio show, and this was the exact situation he was trying to warn against. I'm so tired of neurotic assholes who think they know more about medical science than the actual practitioners. Idiots.
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I'm usually reluctant to call for using state power as a bludgeon, but in this case, I'm entirely in favor of the government saying "You are going to vaccinate your children or they will be removed from your care, full stop." Freedom to believe crunchy-granola horseshit (or asinine religious horseshit) stops when other people's kids are in danger.
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RedImperator wrote:I'm usually reluctant to call for using state power as a bludgeon, but in this case, I'm entirely in favor of the government saying "You are going to vaccinate your children or they will be removed from your care, full stop." Freedom to believe crunchy-granola horseshit (or asinine religious horseshit) stops when other people's kids are in danger.
Not to mention the rest of society.
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I'm actually more afraid of the crunchy granola people than the religious nuts, at least around here. Here, the largest group of such religious types keeps to themselves for the most part, even schooling their children separately from the mainstream. Outbreaks almost always remain confined to their own community. The crunchy-granolas, however, insist on cavorting with the rest of us and drag their ill children along for the ride instead of taking care of them at home. That represents more danger to the general populace.

So, tell them that if they want to avoid vaccinating their children they have to go live in a religious community like the Amish - I'm willing to bet they'd vaccinate rather than give up their posh homes and SUV's and other trappings of a well-to-do lifestyle.

Which is not to say I really approve of the Amish avoiding vaccination, it's just that I'd rather attack the greatest threat first.
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It has now spread to Hawaii; a child (who was too young for the vaccine) caught the measles from a clinic in San Diego and then was on board a flight to Hawaii. I guess one woman from the flight has measles now...the most frightening part was that most of the 200 people on that plane were attending to the pro bowl.
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It will be morbidly amusing to me if, due to a lack of job right now, I escape major flu and measles epidemics
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Ideally that stupid ass law gets repealed and replaced by one saying "your kids are getting vaccinated. Period. Don't like it? Don't have kids. If you try to stop us, you lose your kids."


And, should anyone die due to the negligent assholes that refused to get their kids vaccinated, the parents should face criminal charges. Negligent homicide/manslaughter, anyone? The idiots made a conscious choice. And because the average person would have chosen wisely, because a prudent individual would have chosen to vaccinate their kid, there's no good excuse for the moron's misguided views.

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The only exception to vaccination should be where there is a legitimate medical reason, such as allergy to the vaccine or an immune suppression disorder or some other condition that would greatly elevate the risk of vaccination. Covering everyone else should provide sufficient herd immunity to protect those who actually have a sound reason to avoid the jab.
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USA Today ran this ad last week:

http://www.generationrescue.org/pdf/080212.pdf


My cousin just called me to ask me if there is really "antifreeze" in vaccines. :roll:
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Cairber wrote:USA Today ran this ad last week:
http://www.generationrescue.org/pdf/080212.pdf

My cousin just called me to ask me if there is really "antifreeze" in vaccines. :roll:
WTF Is that, other than a freakin' SCARE TACTIC?!?!
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