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$45 Trillion. Unregulated. Now? In trouble.

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Few Americans have heard of credit default swaps, arcane financial instruments invented by Wall Street about a decade ago. But if the economy keeps slowing, credit default swaps, like subprime mortgages, may become a household term.

Credit default swaps form a large but obscure market that will be put to its first big test as a looming economic downturn strains companies’ finances. Like a homeowner’s policy that insures against a flood or fire, these instruments are intended to cover losses to banks and bondholders when companies fail to pay their debts.

The market for these securities is enormous. Since 2000, it has ballooned from $900 billion to more than $45.5 trillion — roughly twice the size of the entire United States stock market.

No one knows how troubled the credit swaps market is, because, like the now-distressed market for subprime mortgage securities, it is unregulated. But because swaps have proliferated so rapidly, experts say that a hiccup in this market could set off a chain reaction of losses at financial institutions, making it even harder for borrowers to get loans that grease economic activity.

It is entirely possible that this market can withstand a big jump in corporate defaults, if it comes. But an inkling of trouble emerged in a recent report from the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, a federal banking regulator. It warned that a significant increase in trading in swaps during the third quarter of last year “put a strain on processing systems” used by banks to handle these trades and make sure they match up.

And last week, the American International Group said that it had incorrectly valued some of the swaps it had written and that sharp declines in some of these instruments had translated to $3.6 billion more in losses than the company had previously estimated. Its stock dropped 12 percent on the news but edged up in the days after.

A.I.G. says it expects to file its year-end financial statements on time by the end of this month with appropriate valuations.

Placing accurate values on these contracts is just one of the uncertainties facing the big banks, insurance companies and hedge funds that create and trade these instruments.

In a credit default swap, two parties enter a private contract in which the buyer of protection agrees to pay the seller premiums over a set period of time; the seller pays only if a particular credit crisis occurs, like a default. These instruments can be sold, on either end of the contract, by the insurer or the insured.

But during the credit market upheaval in August, 14 percent of trades in these contracts were unconfirmed, meaning one of the parties in the resale transaction was unidentified in trade documents and remained unknown 30 days later. In December, that number stood at 13 percent. Because these trades are unregulated, there is no requirement that all parties to a contract be told when it is sold.

As investors who have purchased such swaps try to cash them in, they may have trouble tracking down who is supposed to pay their claims.

“This is just a giant insurance industry that is underregulated and not very well reserved for and does not have very good standards as a result,” said Michael A. J. Farrell, chief executive of Annaly Capital Management in New York. “I think unregulated markets that overshadow, in terms of size, the regulated ones are a real question mark.”

Because these contracts are sold and resold among financial institutions, an original buyer may not know that a new, potentially weaker entity has taken over the obligation to pay a claim.

In late 2005, at the urging of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, market participants agreed to advise their trading partners in a swap when they assigned contracts to others. But it is unclear how closely participants adhere to this practice.

It would be as if homeowners, facing losses after a hurricane, could not identify the insurance companies to pay on their claims. Or, if they could, they discovered that their insurer had transferred the policy to another company that could not cover the claim.

Credit default swaps were invented by major banks in the mid-1990s as a way to offset risk in their lending or bond portfolios. At the outset, each contract was different, volume in the market was small and participants knew whom they were dealing with.

Years of a healthy economy and few corporate defaults led many banks to write more credit insurance, finding it a low-risk way to earn income because failures were few. Speculators have also flooded into the credit insurance market recently because these securities make it easier to bet on the health of a company than using corporate bonds.

Both factors have resulted in a market of credit swaps that now far exceeds the face value of corporate bonds underlying it. Commercial banks are among the biggest participants — at the end of the third quarter of 2007, the top 25 banks held credit default swaps, both as insurers and insured, worth $14 trillion, the currency office said, up $2 trillion from the previous quarter.

JPMorgan Chase, with $7.8 trillion, is the largest player; Citibank and Bank of America are behind it with $3 trillion and $1.6 trillion respectively.

But many speculators, particularly hedge funds, have flocked to these instruments to bet on a company failure easily. Before the insurance was developed, such a bet would require selling short a corporation’s bond and going into the market to borrow it to supply to the buyer.

The market’s popularity raises the possibility that undercapitalized participants could have trouble paying their obligations.

“The theme had been that derivatives are an instrument that helps diversify risk and stabilize risk-taking,” said Henry Kaufman, the economist at Henry Kaufman & Company in New York and an authority on the ways of Wall Street. “My own view of that has always been highly questionable — those instruments also encourage significant risk-taking and looking at risk modestly rather than incisively.”

Officials at the International Swaps and Derivatives Association, a trade group, say they are confident that the market will stand up, even under stress.

“During the volatility we have seen in the last eight months, credit default swaps continue to trade, unlike other parts of the credit market that have shut down,” said Robert G. Pickel, chief executive of the association. “Even if we have a series of credit events at the same time, we have the processes in place to enable the market to deliver.”

Such credit problems have been rare recently. The default rate among high-yield junk bonds fell to 0.9 percent in December, a record low.

But financial history is rife with examples of market breakdowns that followed the creation of complex securities. Financial innovation often gets ahead of the mechanics necessary to track trades or regulators’ ability to monitor the market for safety and soundness.

The market for default insurance, like the subprime mortgage securities market, is a product of good economic times and has boomed in recent years. In 2000, $900 billion of credit insurance contracts changed hands. Since then, the face value of the contracts outstanding has doubled every year as new contracts have been written. In the first six months of 2007, the figure rose 75 percent; the market now dwarfs the value of United States Treasuries outstanding.

Roughly one-third of the credit default swaps provided insurance against a default by a specific corporate debt issuer in 2006, according to the British Bankers’ Association. Around 30 percent of the contracts were written against indexes representing baskets of debt from numerous issuers.

But 16 percent were created to protect holders of collateralized debt obligations, complex pools of bonds that have recently experienced problems because of mortgage holdings.

There is no exchange where these insurance contracts trade, and their prices are not reported to the public. Because of this, institutions typically value them based on computer models rather than prices set by the market.

Neither are the participants overseen by regulators verifying that the parties to the transactions can meet their obligations.

The potential for problems in sizing up the financial health of buyers of these securities leads to questions about how these insurance contracts are being valued on banks’ books. A bank that has bought protection to cover its corporate bond exposure thinks it is hedged and therefore does not write off paper losses it may incur on those bond holdings. If the party who sold the insurance cannot pay on its claim in the event of a default, however, the bank’s losses would have to be reflected on its books.

Investors are already reeling from the recognition that major banks inaccurately estimated losses from the mortgage debacle. If further write-downs emerge as a result of hedges that did not work, investor confidence could take another dive.

To be sure, the $45 trillion in credit default swaps is not an exact reflection of what would be lost or won if all the underlying securities defaulted. That figure is impossible to pinpoint since the amounts that are recovered in default situations vary.

But one of the challenges facing participants in the credit default swap market is that the market value amount of the contracts outstanding far exceeds the $5.7 trillion of the corporate bonds whose defaults the swaps were created to protect against.

To the uninitiated trying to understand this complex market, its size might initially seem a comfort, as if there were far more insurance covering the bonds than could ever be needed. But because each contract must be settled between buyer and seller if a default occurs, this imbalance can present a problem.

Typically, settling the agreements has required the delivery of defaulted bonds if the insurance buyer wants to be fully covered. If the insurance contracts exceed the bonds that are available for delivery, problems arise.

For example, when Delphi, the auto parts maker, filed for bankruptcy in October 2005, the credit default swaps on the company’s debt exceeded the value of underlying bonds tenfold. Buyers of credit insurance scrambled to buy the bonds, driving up their price to around 70 cents on the dollar, a startlingly high value for defaulted debt.

Market participants worked out an auction system where settlements of Delphi contracts could be made even if the bonds could not be physically delivered. This arrangement was done at just over 36 cents on the dollar; so buyers of protection on Delphi who did not have the bonds received $366.25 for every $1,000 in coverage they had bought. Had they been valuing their Delphi insurance coverage at $1,000 per bond, they would have had to write off that position by $633.75 per $1,000 bond.

That is why the valuation of these contracts is of such concern to some participants.

As with other securities that trade privately and by appointment, assigning values to credit default swaps is highly subjective. So some on Wall Street wonder how much of the paper gains generated in these instruments by firms and hedge funds last year will turn out to be illusory when they try to cash them in.

“The insurance business is very difficult to quantify risk in,” said Mr. Farrell of Annaly Capital Management. “You have to really read the contract to make sure you are covered. That is going to be the test of the market this year. As defaults kick in and as these events unfold, you are going to find out who has managed this well.”

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...jesus, whenever I read one of these threads I just get really confused about how "the financial world" actually works and wonder why we can't just burn a bunch of people at the stake already. There isn't nearly enough vigilantism in certain quarters of the world.


(Is this sort of corruption necessary for people to be able to have technotoys like video games? I really hope not. I'd hate to think that my hobbies are only possible because of people like this.)
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Is this sort of corruption necessary for people to be able to have technotoys like video games?
No. Are corruptioners somehow better than other people at making entertainment electronics? Are inflated values and scam-like schemes contributing anything to the real productive process of said electronics? I think they don't. In fact, by now, I suppose those schemes are a brake on possible productivity if anything.
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Does anyone else reading these things get the image of a massive shell game going on? Only everyone knows its all going to come crashing down, except for the people who thought that they weren't playing the damn game because their wallets were stolen to pay for the game. Oh, and for some reason the guys running the whole operation have a nuke or two to cover their escape when everything grinds to a halt.

Does anyone else get that sort of feeling?
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Because enormous and completely unregulated markets never implode. Ever.
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To start, I'll say I think the article does not give a real good explanation of how credit default swaps work. To make a hypothetical example, let's assume that in 2000 Fred goes to JP Morgan to take out a CDS position on 1, $100 bond of WorldCom. Fred is going to make, say, monthly payments of $0.01 to JP Morgan. That CDS position, the right to default protection on $100 of WorldCom bonds for monthly payments of $0.01, has a value in the market. As news starts to come out about problems in the telecom industry, the value of that position will increase. Then, the news comes out about WorldCom's massive fraud and the company declares bankruptcy. Then, in exchange for the delivery of 1 defaulted, par value $100 bond of WorldCom, Fred gets $100 from JP Morgan.

So, that aside, I have a few issues with the article. The first, and biggest, one is that I'm fairly certain that the author is using notional exposure to describe the size of the position, which inflates the size of the market. The notional exposure of a CDS position would be to assume the bond defaults (and thus the CDS position is valued at the bond's par value). The $45B size would thus assume the default of every bond for which CDS has been issued.

Secondly, the article completely fucks up accounting for losses for those that hold CDS positions. There are two types of investors that purchase CDS. One, you have investors who hold the underlying bond and want to protect themselves against default. Two, you have investors who believe the company will default on its bonds and buy CDS to profit from it. The first group is safe from the problem of insufficient bonds in the market because they already hold the underlying bond. All they do is deliver the defaulted bond and they receive the par value.

Now, the second group would be screwed by the lack of bonds on the market, but not as much as the article states. The entity knows it is going to have to purchase the bonds in the event of a default. Surprisingly, defaulted bonds usually don't trade at 0. During a bankruptcy, bondholders will usually get some recovery; the average in a high yield bond is 40%. So, a defaulted bond will usually trade at around 40. The entity that has to buy the bond will thus carry its position at par minus trading price of the bond, which would be something like 100 - 40, or 60. So, in the case of Delphi, the loss would not have been 64 but rather 24 (60, the expected gain, minus 36, what they received). And that assumes that the entity did write-up the position to 60 (which may or may not have happened). That's not to say this doesn't have the potential to become an issue, but I think the author is grossly inflating the potential damages.

The article also fails to really address the issue of regulation. The fact is, none of the derivative market is really regulated. Part of that is the inclination of any business to avoid government interference (at least until they start facing "unfair foreign competition" or something of that sort) :roll: . Part of it is also that an investment entity can really get screwed if its positions in these often illiquid investments become known.

And, unfortunately, the back office issues with investment banks are more widespread than just the CDS market. It's a little scary some of the mistakes that are made on the accounting side.
Uraniun235 wrote: (Is this sort of corruption necessary for people to be able to have technotoys like video games? I really hope not. I'd hate to think that my hobbies are only possible because of people like this.)
First off, how the hell is this corruption?

Secondly, there is no direct connection between the investment world and the Wii. However, the derivative market plays a role in the infrastructure of a tech society. Who is investing in these derivative instruments? It's largely hedge funds. Now, partly hedge funds raise capital from rich investors. But, a substantial portion of their capital comes from sovereign wealth funds (investment funds for countries), state and company pension funds, charitable foundations, and university endowments.

Additionally, these derivative markets didn't originally develop as a way for investors to make money. Rather, they started as a way for a company to hedge risk. Worried about rising interest rates on your variable rate bonds? Take out an interest rate swap to get rid of the risk. Worried about an upcoming payment due in foreign currency? Take out an FX forward contract. It was only relatively recently that investors realized they could also make money on these instruments and the size ballooned. Companies still find this a very useful risk management tool.

So, it's one more cog in the machine so, without it, you would still have your Wii. But remove enough cogs and you lose it.
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What is it you do, Aces full? I think you posted once, but I forgot.
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First off, how the hell is this corruption?
Even if it isn't, you've got to admit it's pretty god damn shady and the potential for WFandA is high.
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Xisiqomelir wrote:What is it you do, Aces full? I think you posted once, but I forgot.
I'm an investment analyst with a university endowment.

Looked into Wall Street, but quickly said no to that. We work the same 80-hour week here that they do in NYC and get paid less, but get to keep our souls rather than seeing them sold to Satan right in front of our eyes. :lol:

Anyway, my knowledge on this is entirely second-hand/book learned, as we don't directly invest in these kinds of instruments ourselves.
Knife wrote: Even if it isn't, you've got to admit it's pretty god damn shady and the potential for WFandA is high.
CDS instruments themselves are perfectly fine and legitimate. What is screwed up and in need of immediate improvement is the atrocious nature of the back offices at many investment banks and hedge funds. The industry has expanded too fast, stretching the number of capable, trained professionals. These companies tend spend all their money on the investment side and slack off on the operations side, hiring people on the cheap and getting discount services. Moreover, everybody reports things in a different fashion, meaning that comparisons between one company and another are difficult at best. At the very least, the industry is in desperate need of industry-wide standards.
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Damnation! Was there any actual economic growth over the past two decades, or was it all just people playing with numbers until they got bigger numbers?
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IANAE, but there was some growth, just not nearly as much as most people thought, and it occurred at the expense of the working class.

I'll agree that the article insufficiently addresses regulation, although the fact that "unregulated" is in the headline is helpful. Thank you for your explanation of CDS, but I have one little issue with it: you use the phrase "get rid of the risk," which implies that risk is eliminated rather than reduced - one of the huge worries in the current crisis is counter-party risk, that is, that your insurer won't be able to pay up when you make your claim.
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Is americans that blinded by their political beliefs and etc? VCan't the population be more practical? Like what the british is doing with their enconomy?


Seriously, if american's enconomy is not connected to the rest of the world, I won't give a damn. But the fact is america is connected to the world...sigh.

If only somebody can create a way for the rest of the world to cut off the US's enconomic influence during a US depression or recession.
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