SGA 4*18 "The Kindred: Part 1" (Spoilers)

[CaptJodan]

Maybe it was the uber wraith jamming? (You know, the crap that magically prevented Daedalus from beaming any nukes aboard hive ships in 2x01) After all, "Michael" is definitely smarter than your average wraith. (Which would mean that the writers are fans of SW given the extensive usage of jamming tech. )

Please don't get me started on that. I hated that. I despise that. I triple damn the writers for that stupidity every time I see that episode.

[Themightytom]

I always wondered about jamming, do they emit radiation or something to "Jam"? How can that be good for the crew?

[CaptJodan]

I always wondered about jamming, do they emit radiation or something to "Jam"? How can that be good for the crew?

Have no idea. My biggest problem was the timing. Even the SGC eventually came up with a way to jam transporter signals (or was it just the ability to scan for the gate?). The trouble was you have a race who has never been exposed to Asgard technology before (in fact, probably has limited experience with transporters in general. While we know the Ancients invented ring transporters, it doesn't look like they used them that much in Pegasus), and those that are suddenly exposed to it die a fraction of a second later, not exactly giving them much time to work out a solution. But miraculously, a few minutes pass, and on the next encounter with their large fleet, they find a solution that has confounded the Goa'uld for at least a dozen years, almost certainly more. It's so successful on the first try, that any counter-counter measures employed by either the Asgard or by the humans afterward have been ineffective.

I don't mind the villains showing some competence (in fact, it's preferred), but I felt this was just way too quick a turn-around in that episode. As stupid as it sounds, it might have been easier to swallow had the Wraith hulls just been somehow naturally blocking of Asgard transporters to begin with.

[NecronLord]

they find a solution that has confounded the Goa'uld for at least a dozen years, almost certainly more.

The goa'uld have shown every sign of having had the technology to block Asgard transporters for at least centuries, possibly longer. They push a button and their shields come on. No teleporty is possible after that point. There is no evidence that the asgard have ever used their transporters as a ship-to-ship weapon against the goa'uld.

[Chris OFarrell]

they find a solution that has confounded the Goa'uld for at least a dozen years, almost certainly more.

The goa'uld have shown every sign of having had the technology to block Asgard transporters for at least centuries, possibly longer. They push a button and their shields come on. No teleporty is possible after that point. There is no evidence that the asgard have ever used their transporters as a ship-to-ship weapon against the goa'uld.

To be fair, it was SORT of implied in 'Revelations' that it was only with Anubis and his upgraded shields, that they had developed a defense against the Asgard transporters, not its not explict.

With that said, the Wraiths ability to magically block the Asgard transporters with some kind of 'jamming code' just got weirder and weirder. I'm guessing they are talking about some kind of frequency based system that they had to adjust to get the beam through.

And on this episode, it WAS a little contrived how the Daedalus didn't kill the Cruiser. I mean it would have been way more cool if Michael had arrived with a couple of Hives and his Cruiser and while Daedalus is busy slicing them in half ala Shadows vs Narn Cruisers, he runs for the hills.

I did notice for some reason they engage with railguns only (which do 'heavy damage', based on the 'Be all my sins fight' I'm guessing they now load some kind of Hi-Ex rounds rather then just slugs) but hold off on firing the beams until the last second, then after having perfect accuracy until this moment, they miss. Though I concede that Daedalus was trying to disable their engines, not slice it in half.

I mean something like the Odyssey's escape from Adria in 'Flesh and Blood' when they jump and the beam JUST misses because they get into hyperspace would have been much better then such a deliberate act of plot.