Battle of the Nebulas

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Which is the superior ship?

Federation Nebula class
4
8%
KDY Nebulon B class
48
92%
 
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Re: Battle of the Nebulas

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Eleas wrote:Clearly, the Federation ship wins this one. Forplot purposes,it is the superior vessel. As one of their large ships, it can carry a flag crew, which gives itungodly character shielding.Also, it looks like what it is - a large Federation ship, again insuring its dominance due to brainless writers. Finally,the Nebulon-B is a run of the mill ship while the Nebula is fairly prestigious in Starfleet.Again, this insures that the brainless writers will skew the setting so it can win.

So, do I win any points?
Only with trektards. :evil:
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IG-88E wrote:
Eleas wrote: So, do I win any points?
Only with trektards. :evil:
Excellent. Does that mean you approve?
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Eleas wrote:Excellent. Does that mean you approve?
*bash* I am NOT a trektard.
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IG-88E wrote:
Eleas wrote:Excellent. Does that mean you approve?
*bash* I am NOT a trektard.
Oh. Then I'm confused.
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Eleas wrote:
Wicked Pilot wrote:OK, here is my first entry into the SWvsST forum. Myself, not having the greatest knowledge of the vs debates, have a question for you. Who would win, the Nebula class, or the Nebulon B class?
Clearly, the Federation ship wins this one. For plot purposes, it is the superior vessel. As one of their large ships, it can carry a flag crew, which gives it ungodly character shielding. Also, it looks like what it is - a large Federation ship, again insuring its dominance due to brainless writers. Finally, the Nebulon-B is a run of the mill ship while the Nebula is fairly prestigious in Starfleet. Again, this insures that the brainless writers will skew the setting so it can win.

So, do I win any points?
Nope.

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Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
Eleas wrote: Clearly, the Federation ship wins this one. For plot purposes, it is the superior vessel. As one of their large ships, it can carry a flag crew, which gives it ungodly character shielding. Also, it looks like what it is - a large Federation ship, again insuring its dominance due to brainless writers. Finally, the Nebulon-B is a run of the mill ship while the Nebula is fairly prestigious in Starfleet. Again, this insures that the brainless writers will skew the setting so it can win.

So, do I win any points?
Nope.

*BAM!*
8)

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Eleas wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
Eleas wrote: Clearly, the Federation ship wins this one. For plot purposes, it is the superior vessel. As one of their large ships, it can carry a flag crew, which gives it ungodly character shielding. Also, it looks like what it is - a large Federation ship, again insuring its dominance due to brainless writers. Finally, the Nebulon-B is a run of the mill ship while the Nebula is fairly prestigious in Starfleet. Again, this insures that the brainless writers will skew the setting so it can win.

So, do I win any points?
Nope.

*BAM!*
8)

Do you understand why I wrote the above?
Of course they don't. They just saw you posting something that gave ST a chance and assumed you were insane :D
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Eleas wrote:Clearly, the Federation ship wins this one. For plot purposes, it is the superior vessel. As one of their large ships, it can carry a flag crew, which gives it ungodly character shielding. Also, it looks like what it is - a large Federation ship, again insuring its dominance due to brainless writers. Finally, the Nebulon-B is a run of the mill ship while the Nebula is fairly prestigious in Starfleet. Again, this insures that the brainless writers will skew the setting so it can win.

So, do I win any points?
Question: Does a Neb carry any main characters for a sustained period in any of the series? A Constellation and a Constitution carried Kirk, a Galaxy and a Sovereign carried Picard, an Intrepid carried Janeway, and a Defiant carried Sisko. But what about the Nebula? :D
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Question: Does a Neb carry any main characters for a sustained period in any of the series? A Constellation and a Constitution carried Kirk, a Galaxy and a Sovereign carried Picard, an Intrepid carried Janeway, and a Defiant carried Sisko. But what about the Nebula?
The Nebula class starship USS Farragut held a good portion of the crew of the E-D, as shown in the ending scene of Star Trek: Generations. Miles O'Brien also persuaded Bejamin Maxwell to stop destroying Cardassian ships in TNG episode "The Wounded." Ambassidor Sarek was transported back to Vulcan on bard the USS Mirramack, a Nebula calss ship in Sarek an The Game[TNG] . Data also commanded the USS SUtherland during the blockade of the romulan ships in "Redeption, Part II"[TNG].

So.... yes :P
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Connor MacLeod wrote:
Eleas wrote: 8)

Do you understand why I wrote the above?
Of course they don't. They just saw you posting something that gave ST a chance and assumed you were insane :D
Indeed. The reason, of course, was the simple fact that I'm sick of it. I'm sick of having people from my own side go ballistic at the mere thought of Trek being anything other than the Imperials' doormat. Now these calculations I have defended over the years. I've done it on Spacebattles, on ASVS, here, and on uncountable other forums. And I don't pretend to be especially qualified, but the simple fact is that I have performed actual work over the years.

Nowadays, newbies get everything served to them. And so, many of them cut and paste without actually understanding, and yet those same people are full of sound and fury that anyone would dare challenge "their" calcs.

To my mind, they're living the easy life because other people have performed the actual work. In the olden days, they wouldn't have lasted five minutes.

I'm not attacking anyone in this thread; I merely point out symptoms that have been evident to me for a long time.
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Eleas wrote: Clearly, the Federation ship wins this one. For plot purposes, it is the superior vessel. As one of their large ships, it can carry a flag crew, which gives it ungodly character shielding. Also, it looks like what it is - a large Federation ship, again insuring its dominance due to brainless writers. Finally, the Nebulon-B is a run of the mill ship while the Nebula is fairly prestigious in Starfleet. Again, this insures that the brainless writers will skew the setting so it can win.

So, do I win any points?
I like it...it's actually funny and literally is what I see used in some oddball debates.

It's not what I would use...but it's funny.
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Ghost Rider wrote: I like it...it's actually funny and literally is what I see used in some oddball debates.

It's not what I would use...but it's funny.
Thanks. I almost forgot that reason, but yes, a chunk of my motivation came from wanting to poke fun. :)
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