KT = Daala in Revelation?

Revan's Fire · Post by **Revan's Fire** » 2008-03-04 10:17am

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but upon my reading of Revelation I noticed that there seemed to be a bit of a Mary Sueism with Daala. Now this might be biased because aside from Hard Contact, I've hated everything else she's written, but it seemed to me that the mysterious, enigmatic officer who come to save the day with her tactics that can't be fathomed, and her super 'phase=shifting' weapons, was a bit too ridiculous. And that was before she corpse-snatched Pelleaon.

Is this way off base? Or did anyone else notice this?[/i]

Darth Onasi · Post by **Darth Onasi** » 2008-03-04 04:23pm

Wait, wait. Phase shifting? Why must the EU drag Star Wars through every sci-fi cliche known to man?
What next? Time travel?

As for Daala.. tactics that can't be fathomed? Since when did she know what a tactic was?
Now all that's left is for her to screw every Mandalorian in sight, have a super Mando-baby and thus fulfill KT's fantasies.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2008-03-04 05:24pm

Lol, Daala + Boba = True.

TC Pilot · Post by **TC Pilot** » 2008-03-04 05:25pm

Well, Daala has sex with Boba Fett, so yes, it's obviously a Mary Sue.

EDIT - Damn, beaten by a whole minute.

Darth Onasi · Post by **Darth Onasi** » 2008-03-04 05:45pm

VT-16 wrote:Lol, Daala + Boba = True.

... now I'm really glad I don't read this shit.

(name here) · Post by **(name here)** » 2008-03-04 06:40pm

Note to self: do not read about recent EU after head trama

Ryushikaze · Post by **Ryushikaze** » 2008-03-04 10:08pm

(name here) wrote:Note to self: do not read about recent EU after head trama

Note to Eu authors: Do not write EU materials after head trauma.

Seriously, that's just odd. I mean, why Daala, of all people, to bring back and glorify? Especially after how long she's been a non issue in-universe.

Which of course begs the question, what was Admiral McCrazy doing to the whole Vong mess?

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2008-03-04 11:07pm

phase shifting?

WTF is going on here?

General Soontir Fel · Post by **General Soontir Fel** » 2008-03-04 11:24pm

Darth Onasi wrote: What next? Time travel?

They already sort of do that, via "flow-walking" bullshit. Jacen uses it to manipulate Tahiri, who's obsessed with his dead brother.

Which of course begs the question, what was Admiral McCrazy doing to the whole Vong mess?

According to Traviss, she's done a lot of unspecified stuff, which gained her a lot of favors, which is how she assembled her fleet that suddenly showed up.

She's also reunited with her boyfriend who's pined for her ever since she left for Carida, and had at least one kid. According to Traviss, she's now a grandmother.

Fett has been a Stu long before Traviss, but this book takes him to a whole new level. You can see how KT wants us to think he's awesome.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2008-03-04 11:29pm

I think those indestructible, invincible gloves, oh I'm sorry, crushgaunts made from the glorious Mando'Fando' iron takes the price.

There's definitely a shifting trend over at TFN. KT's LFL sanctioned revisionism has even caused outrage among some of the Mando'Fando's and scathing criticism from others.

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2008-03-05 12:56am

TC Pilot wrote:Well, Daala has sex with Boba Fett, so yes, it's obviously a Mary Sue.

My sarcasm meter is broken. Did Daala actually have sex with Boba Fett, or are you joking? (Obviously, I haven't read Karen Traviss' recent works.)

Fingolfin_Noldor · Post by **Fingolfin_Noldor** » 2008-03-05 02:03am

Never mind Daala having sex with Boba Fett, I'd be more interested if she had sex with some random clone of Jango Fett. Next minute, she'd have a whole harem of Jango Fett type Stormtroopers.

Seriously, does this have to go to the gutter?

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2008-03-05 02:08am

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
Seriously, does this have to go to the gutter?

It does as long as they let the mando-whore keep writing books.

They need to give that bitch the boot, yesterday

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2008-03-05 02:34am

why Daala, of all people, to bring back and glorify?

She's the only female officer Traviss can bother to remember?

Darth Hoth · Post by **Darth Hoth** » 2008-03-05 02:44am

VT-16 wrote:
why Daala, of all people, to bring back and glorify?
She's the only female officer Traviss can bother to remember?

She feels some weird kinship with her, both being raving incompetents and egomaniacs who explain away all criticism as sexism?

Fingolfin_Noldor · Post by **Fingolfin_Noldor** » 2008-03-05 02:45am

VT-16 wrote:
why Daala, of all people, to bring back and glorify?
She's the only female officer Traviss can bother to remember?

She had to bring back the worst of characters in the entire list of "Bad Characters who ought to be DEAD and should stay DEAD". Did she have some sympathy for that whore because of her deluded feminism?!?

I wish I could say up front to that bitch: "Grow some fucking balls bitch, and go get a fucking life elsewhere but here."

Darth Onasi · Post by **Darth Onasi** » 2008-03-05 06:48am

Yes it's logical if you think about it.

Everybody hates Daala because she's a raving incompetent loon.

Everybody hates Traviss because she's a raving incompetent loon.

Thus, Traviss turns Daala into the Goddess of All Space and Time and attributes all accounts of her incompetence to sexism, thus validating herself.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2008-03-05 07:52am

Now that Traviss has established that Mandalorians are confined to their suits as a matter of cultural pride, you can enjoy the mental image of a 70+ year old Boba Fett, reeking with decades of funk from his suit, screwing a 60+ year old brain-damaged Daala.

Waru has nothing on this.

Darth Hoth · Post by **Darth Hoth** » 2008-03-05 09:21am

This pair-up is arguably poorer than Anderson at his worst. And did not the old Jedi Academy books establish that Daala remained chaste after being posted to the Maw, in order to honour Tarkin's memory or something akin to that? I could accept it with Vorn, because at least that provided a way of removing her from the mainstream Expanded Universe, but her falling to the Fandalorian charms... doubtful.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-03-05 11:38am

Didn't one of the 'Tales' books reveal that Boba's nuts got dissolved when he was in the Sarlaac, and he's no longer a fully functional man?

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2008-03-05 11:45am

CaptainChewbacca wrote:Didn't one of the 'Tales' books reveal that Boba's nuts got dissolved when he was in the Sarlaac, and he's no longer a fully functional man?

I read that story, which specifically states that Boba's groin protector was NOT compromised by the acid or whatever digestive fluids were in the Sarlacc. However, those fluids did give Boba some kind of cancer, forcing him to spend large amounts of money on treatments.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2008-03-05 11:47am

Sidewinder wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:Didn't one of the 'Tales' books reveal that Boba's nuts got dissolved when he was in the Sarlaac, and he's no longer a fully functional man?
I read that story, which specifically states that Boba's groin protector was NOT compromised by the acid or whatever digestive fluids were in the Sarlacc. However, those fluids did give Boba some kind of cancer, forcing him to spend large amounts of money on treatments.

Oh right, I remember now. His nuts were ok, but he went sterile.

Darth Onasi · Post by **Darth Onasi** » 2008-03-05 11:59am

Sidewinder wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:Didn't one of the 'Tales' books reveal that Boba's nuts got dissolved when he was in the Sarlaac, and he's no longer a fully functional man?
I read that story, which specifically states that Boba's groin protector was NOT compromised by the acid or whatever digestive fluids were in the Sarlacc. However, those fluids did give Boba some kind of cancer, forcing him to spend large amounts of money on treatments.

As a side note, it's a good thing KT wasn't writing for him then, or not only would Fett have escaped the Sarlacc without any consequences, he would've gained super Sarlacc powers making him 40x stronger and have Sarlacc acid breath.

FA Xerrik · Post by **FA Xerrik** » 2008-03-05 01:54pm

Darth Onasi wrote:As a side note, it's a good thing KT wasn't writing for him then, or not only would Fett have escaped the Sarlacc without any consequences, he would've gained super Sarlacc powers making him 40x stronger and have Sarlacc acid breath.

Except... that would be fucking awesome. Makes me want to write a preposterous fanfic on the premise.

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2008-03-05 11:48pm

VT-16 wrote:Now that Traviss has established that Mandalorians are confined to their suits as a matter of cultural pride, you can enjoy the mental image of a 70+ year old Boba Fett, reeking with decades of funk from his suit, screwing a 60+ year old brain-damaged Daala.

Waru has nothing on this.

GOD...... YOU JUST BROKE MY MIND.................