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Justforfun000
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Post by Justforfun000 »

I just want to say that it's a crock of shit that rape and other types of intimidation can't be stopped. It's a 100% non-negotiable incarceration complex owned and run completely by the government. There is NOTHING stopping them from having working cameras in every goddamn section of the place or better yet, enough guards to be in every visible spot the prisoners will share when mingling together.

The reality is that they must CHOOSE to allow this shit to go on for whatever specific reasons. My suspicion is so that the ones in control can coerce, threaten and intimidate the prisoners themselves for a myriad of reasons not limited to pushing for info on other crime related incidents.

There is no excuse for people being physically abused. Allowing this to happen is just as bad as the crimes these people have committed. You can't very well hold yourself up as a paragon of virtue when you don't follow the moral high ground yourself. I would say they undoubtedly are deliberately responsible for keeping some criminals criminal.
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I think it's simpler than that; all those CCTV cameras and/or extra guards costs money. Money which no-one wants to spend, sine among other things, they had it coming, didn't they? They're criminals/i], after all.
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Post by Rhob »

Knife wrote:
Rhob wrote:The real question is, how effective is punishment? Which kinds of punishment are more effective than others?

It seems to me that many people no longer look at prison time as something to be avoided at all costs. Rather, it's just something you have to live through if you get caught. How is that either rehabilitation or a deterrent?
Why do you think 'punishment' should automatically lead to 'rehab'.
Where did I say that I think that?
I agree it should lead to deterrence though.
It should -- but how often does it?

Oftentimes it seems (to me) that punishment merely tells a person that they should do things better and/or differently next time.
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