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No, America Isn't Dumb. A Reply to Susan Jacoby

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An opinion piece refuting Susan Jacoby's recent stuff.

Interesting reading in the comments, too. My main complaint is the author goes too heavily into the pseudo-classical literature style in his writing.
In today’s Washington Post, Susan Jacoby argues Americans are in serious intellectual trouble. This is not true. America's kids are as fine a generation as we've ever raised. They may not read as many books as we did, but they're good kids, creating works of power and beauty, far beyond what we created in our own heyday.

Public ignorance, she says, can’t be discussed without sounding like an elitist. I remember John Kerry’s supposed elitism and the charges leveled against him, but he shared a membership in the ultra-elitist Skull and Bones with his folksy opponent George Bush. While it is true politicians have always aspired to appeal to common folk, this country has never elected a common man. The closest we ever came to a Common Man was Andrew Jackson, who would go on to evict the Cherokee and was easily America’s worst president. I recently spent some time in Osage County Oklahoma: native people prefer not to carry the 20 dollar bill in their pocket, for Black Heart’s face is upon it. Jimmy Carter, another Common Man, proved a disaster in office.

The grumblings of old people is as constant a refrain as the twittering of birds at dawn. Cicero’s crotchety whine of “O tempora, o mores” has passed into cliché. The old have always believed themselves smarter than the generation behind. The old have the advantage of experience and the disadvantage of inflexibility.

Jacoby refers to Lincoln’s eloquence at Gettysburg: the Shakespearean cadence of that marvelous speech. Lincoln’s entire education was centered on Shakespeare. We must resist the urge to insert our modern selves into a November afternoon in 1863, to say the audience was any more intellectual or educated than ourselves. Lincoln was self-taught, with only 18 months of formal schooling. William Herndon taught him law. Nor was the Gettysburg Address a campaign speech, it was composed in several drafts, meant as a minor adjunct to a much longer speech after the president of Harvard University, Everett Hale. The world of 1863 featured professional oratory: in a world without radio or television, the written word was all there was.

Richard Hofstadter’s polemic "Anti-Intellectualism in American Life" is woefully dated. Intellectuals and cynics have always controlled the public debate, and William Randolph Hearst made fortunes on info-tainment long before the revisionist Hofstadter emerges to praise Andrew Jackson in his far more influential The American Political Tradition and the Men Who Made It (New York: A. A. Knopf, 1948). I have several significant beefs with that old fraud Richard Hofstadter: he was always a Marxist, even when he went over to the Ruling Class. He is the archetypal revisionist historian.

Daniel Patrick Moynihan was a gentleman and I will not disparage him overmuch. Dumbness hasn’t been defined down: it’s merely become more visible. The video culture began on a high note: early television was innovative, high-minded and deeply committed to education. But so was the printing press, in its day. Mass literacy and book ownership descended to the right of the common man. When radio was invented, Nicola Tesla built Wardenclyffe Tower to make world communications possible. Technology always starts on a high note: the early Internet was a hopeful thing. That it became a pornographic peep show is incidental: you are reading this essay on a website dedicated to the proposition that people can get smarter here.

Books and magazines are falling off, we are told. We are not told of the exponential rise of the Internet, of Google’s initiative to digitize the books of the world. News appears first on the Internet: Islamic terrorists put their videos up on the Net first. The technology never mattered anyway. Children in Niger and the Congo are on the Internet now. Small languages have a new lease on life: I just submitted the Osage (Niukonska) language Wazhazhe charset for Unicode inclusion.

If book reading is the yardstick for education, then yes, America’s in trouble. But is this of necessity a big deal? The book-reading public has always been a relatively small part of the body politic: the lurid serial form called Penny Dreadful has always sold well. Mark Twain and Charles Dickens wrote many books for newspaper consumption. What is the practical difference between LonelyGirl’s YouTube confessions and what preceded it in text form? I would argue the novel was a form invented for entertainment purposes only, and was mummified by the worshipful educational establishment.

Mankind changes little from age to age. The storyteller has always been part of human society, and the stories weren’t always pretty. Grimm’s Fairy Tales were gruesome little parables, every bit as horrific as any snuff video. Cinderella’s sisters mutilate themselves to fit into the glass slipper and most of the villains are sentenced to death in horrible modes of execution. Odysseus’ companions are eaten alive by Polyphemus, turned into pigs, every one of them dies before Wily Odysseus returns home, to kill the suitors. The Sangreal is awash in blood, gore and horror. It all sounds quite video-gamish to me. Jacoby calls my sort of argument Balderdash (what a silly old word that is, from Latin balducta, milk curds), but mankind has always sat around the fire, from infants to the elderly, their mouths agape in delight and horror, as the storyteller unrolls his magic carpet. Every modern theatrical and literary form has its ancient equivalent. There is nothing new under the sun.

Ms Jacoby may have been reading books in a tree house ( I favored my father’s study ) where modern children may obsess over their Facebook account. But how much effort did you put into decorating your three-ring binder, Ms. Jacoby? Which cliques did you join or wish to join? Which lunch table did you sit at? Children have always self-segregated, expressed themselves in the art and music they chose.

Ms. Jacoby says America isn’t interested in complicated policy choices. I would argue nobody’s interested in policy decisions until they’re directly affected. Franklin Roosevelt was a complex man who understood the power of radio, communicating directly with America via his Fireside Chats, which began long before Pearl Harbor. Raised in an elitist world, he was humanized by his polio. FDR’s genius was not his very considerable intellect, but his empathy. His wife’s role is not well understood to this day, but Eleanor Roosevelt poked holes in the bubble surrounding every politician in high office, exposing him to the suffering of the American people.

I seriously question any survey which says one in five American citizens believe the sun goes round the earth: this discounts the American sense of humor which writes Yes into the box labeled Sex. Americans do speak a second language: more Americans speak Spanish as a native language than English in the continental USA. It’s a perpetual source of amusement to me: ask an American about his heritage, he will never say “American”, he will respond with “oh, I’m Polish on my Dad’s side, Scots-Irish on my Mom’s side, and there’s some Cherokee in there somewhere.” The mythology of America is one of assimilation and collective identity.

And let’s put to rest this idea America’s become stupid in the mean time. Intelligence comes in many modes: we are a utilitarian people. Trade schools are doing land office business: if art history and literature departments are now in decline, they never did terribly well. They were always the refuge of those who couldn’t climb the mountains of the math and chemistry required for the degrees which ensured good jobs in the outside world.

Intellectualism and high culture have never been our forte. More women than men now graduate from four year colleges. As the costs of college have risen, fewer people feel can afford to attend. The teaching profession is poorly paid. If academia shouts out its disaffection with modern times from the dizzying heights of the ivory towers, it is an ancient tradition. It goes right back to the time of Socrates, accused of corrupting the youth of his day with the heresies of critical thinking. There never were any Good Old Days. What passes for Critical Thinking in our day has become a vile parody of itself, as anti-intellectual as anything coming out of the Know Nothings Jacoby rails against. I consider myself a well-read man, but my children grew up on the graphic novels of Neil Gaiman, the dark complexities of Nine Inch Nails, the beautiful and intricate worlds of Myst and the Airtight Garage by Moebius. They read widely and well, pushing bravely into the dark and violent corners of literature and art, as well as the strong beauties of a brave new world Ms. Jacoby neither knows nor understands. Intellectuals they have become, but not poseurs or dilettantes. I have shot them like arrows into the world, sharp and deadly and precise.

Unique in the generations of American children, this generation did not despise the music or culture of their parents. They are prematurely wise and cautious: they grew up in a world where AIDS and antibiotic-resistant venereal disease is a one-way trip to the morgue. They came of age when 9/11 cured America of its delusions of supremacy and invulnerability. This is a generation with a heart. They enlist in our military with the certain knowledge of the dangers they face. This is a generation with a heart. Old I may be, and a bit wrinkly, but I will stand up for this new generation. They are not anti-intellectual, and I will slap down every assertion of their callous ignorance or their low level of discourse. Most especially, I will attack the likes of that precious old huckster Richard Hofstadter and his equally pedantic peer Allan Bloom, he of “The Closing of the American Mind” The artists, coders and scriptwriters behind the video games Ms Jacoby so despises know their Homer and Swift, and give life to visions of staggering power and beauty. America’s mind has never been more open than now. They're good kids, Ms. Jacoby. Maybe you should meet a few of them.
I tracked down reprints of this piece on Google, and it appears that the author is a game programmer. Figures.
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That's... telling. I also love the way she dismisses reading as a worthless skill and thinks Americans are so cool at humour that they somehow routinely get silly results at surveys.

Hey, almost a half believe in Biblical Creation - that's no fucking humour, isn't it - but that's a vision of power and awesome I guess! We don't need no "policy choices", we're cool.
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thinks Americans are so cool at humour that they somehow routinely get silly results at surveys.
This is the stock answer that comes to up whenever some survey shows that British people believe some idiotic thing.
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HemlockGrey wrote:This is the stock answer that comes to up whenever some survey shows that British people believe some idiotic thing.
How is this relevant? It's a worthless defence, in both unrelated cases. So what?
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The person who wrote this article is an imbecile. I would love to elaborate with complex written arguments, but as she points out, reading isn't that important anyway, so it doesn't matter whether I do.
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[urlhttp://4brevard.com/choice/international-test-scores.htm]International Test Scores[/url]
Scan to the bottom for the chart.

Americans exit High school as yokels compared to most other industrialized nations.
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God damnit. Someone ever so kindly fix that for me.
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How is this relevant? It's a worthless defence, in both unrelated cases. So what?
I just thought it was worth noting that people on these very boards frequently use that as an explanation for idiotic British poll results.
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HemlockGrey wrote:
How is this relevant? It's a worthless defence, in both unrelated cases. So what?
I just thought it was worth noting that people on these very boards frequently use that as an explanation for idiotic British poll results.
No, the Britons on this board do that, and we all know why. It's a country of drunkards and soccer hooligans who still think they can look down their noses at the rest of us for our lack of "culture".
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Wow, that is fucking stupidity condensed, bottled, and marketed as "gamer fuel".
I love the example of my generations military participation. Yes, all of the selfless... Hundreds of thousands. Who joined mostly for money for college. Those brilliant gen-Yers who took up credit card debt in college like so much ecstasy and gave us paragons of cultural significance like Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, and Lindsay Lohan.
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*Sigh* I'm one of the few 18-year olds who still reads for fun...
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DrMckay wrote:*Sigh* I'm one of the few 18-year olds who still reads for fun...
Speaking as a 23-year-old who does so, and whose entire family found a single series they could all enjoy, despite widely disparate tastes - if you want to get someone into reading for fun, get them on Harry Potter. Then move on from there. :D
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Judging by the comments here, I'm pretty sure that the author is male.
Stas Bush wrote:That's... telling. I also love the way she dismisses reading as a worthless skill and thinks Americans are so cool at humour that they somehow routinely get silly results at surveys.
No, I'm pretty sure he's dismissing that book reading is an overrated skill. It's basically along Andrew Sullivan's rebuttal to Jacoby-
But are we really headed for an electropocalypse heralded by whatever's in this week's Best Buy flyer? Somehow I doubt it. Text messaging for example, seems to have made kids more comfortable with writing, and some evidence suggests that kids are actually growing more literate. Meanwhile, on the violent imagery front, violent crime amongst youth is down since 1993, when violent video games like Mortal Kombat began appearing.

Now, I'm not naïve enough to think that it's all sugar plums and roses. New technologies do cause changes in the way we live, and some of them will probably be at least partially negative. Shorter attention spans might become the norm, but so, I suspect, will greater ability to process larger amounts of discrete information. Memorization will decrease, of course, but ability to link and organize facts will probably increase. As video becomes more dominant, strong writing skills may not be as prevalent, but the ability to communicate in the grammar of film—sounds, images, spoken words—will grow as cheap high quality video cameras become the pens and notepads of the next generation.
- but yeah, I agree that he dismisses all of Jacoby's arguments in a very airy-fairy way.
We don't need no "policy choices", we're cool.
I think his point was that Americans are not unique in being apathetic about public policy. But you're right; apathy shouldn't be something to be brushed off.

BlaiseP seems to be mostly responding Jacoby just for the sake of Jacoby, and some of the arguments certainly seem to be a lot of crap-
In a country the size of the USA, larger than most of Europe put together, Americans do not often read maps. I have said upstream Americans are a ruthlessly utilitarian people: if their company sends them to Tucumcare New Mexico, they'll find it on the map. Knowing that Albany is the capital city of New York State does not put a dime in anyone's pocket.
But judging by his comments and responses in the other site, it's probably because he holds contempt of Jacoby's background and the kind of intellectual she represents-
The gearheads and dreamers exist in a happy symbiosis in the land of video games. Hollywood's growing beyond the old crappy CGI, soon enough, the two genres will overlap completely.

My problem is this: academia, especially the humanities, has failed to make an adequate case for itself. Nobody studies Homer in Greek, or Ovid in Latin, we teaching this stuff in translation, the bored instructors seemingly incapable of conveying the greatness of these texts.

Humanities used to be rigorous. In some circles they still are. But unless you have a terminal degree, you can't even teach it: you have about the same odds of a ghetto kid getting into the NBA as becoming a tenured professor of Humanities these days. Even then, you'll live in genteel poverty. C'mon, now, this is serious stuff. There's never been a really large segment of the work force clamoring for someone with a Master's in Comparative Lit.
Academia, if it's to mean anything at all, is self-justifying. If we want a less-utilitarian society, we must ensure there's a place for the humanities in this culture. I go on to say the creative spirits who design the games like Myst do know their Homer and Swift, their sci-fi and Tolkien and C.S Lewis and all the other stuff which only the humanities can provide.

But the humanities must make a better case for itself in the greater world. Jacoby cannot blame it on the Dumbing Down of this culture. The humanities are vital, but they must make their own case for relevance.
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Molyneux wrote:
DrMckay wrote:*Sigh* I'm one of the few 18-year olds who still reads for fun...
Speaking as a 23-year-old who does so, and whose entire family found a single series they could all enjoy, despite widely disparate tastes - if you want to get someone into reading for fun, get them on Harry Potter. Then move on from there. :D
There's a pretty big difference between reading scifi/fantasy fiction for fun and reading non-fiction, in terms of intellectual development. I mean, it's better than not reading at all. But my stepmother reads tons of Danielle Steele and other crap, and I wouldn't exactly say that it's improving her intellect, you know?

I've heard the "post literacy" argument before, but I don't buy it. Reading books gives a very different depth to the material, that simply isn't available in internet form. Quick example: I usually read on average 2 new non-fiction books in a month, but I also generally pick up something that I've read before to re-read -- usually something that I originally read a year or more before. I come to the text with a different perspective, new knowledge, the experience of potentially synthesizing the material into the rest of my knowledge. If I tried that with something I read on the internet a year ago, it might not even exist anymore.
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If we want a less-utilitarian society, we must ensure there's a place for the humanities in this culture.
Why do we want a less utilitarian society? Does she understand what "utilitarian" means? :? A lot of "humanities" blah blah blah. Essentially self-praise for the game industry which is so fucking rich on Swift (I'm sure they're huge fans of HP Lovecraft too, he's classic after all).

Am I just confusing something here, or does a person desperately try to justify it's own existence?
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Hm. According to this thread of comments, it seems like he's replying to humanities/liberal arts majors who are upset by his disparaging statements about the classics. Specifically this sentence-
If art history and literature departments are now in decline, they never did terribly well. They were always the refuge of those who couldn’t climb the mountains of the math and chemistry required for the degrees which ensured good jobs in the outside world.
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Saying that math and chemistry are useful for jobs and therefore should be studied is a dangerous argument. Someone can come right back around and depending on the job market, claim that no math is necessary for a job and therefore it shouldn't be studied.

One of my professors in first year said when he first started out he told people study math get a good job, but he realized that was pinning false hopes and moreover not giving the correct reason. You study math for critical thinking and problem solving skills, and whether it applies to a job is secondary, especially at the university level. Let's face it, high school is all the math most people need, and if people would focus on mastering high school math that is more than enough for most occupations.

He may be pro-math, but I sure wouldn't want him on my side. Especially given his position that America is not growing more anti-intellectual.
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The problem with younger people trying to compare things with the past...well, I remember a quote from an old fisherman that explained it well (it may not be exactly right but this is the general gist of it).

"We have these young guys saying, 'Why do we have these quotas? There are lots of fish! There's more tuna out there than I've ever seen in my entire life!' I always tell them, 'You weren't here twenty years ago.' "
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DrMckay wrote:*Sigh* I'm one of the few 18-year olds who still reads for fun...
Hell I read in a month what other kids in my grade read for fun up till then in high school. I'm 16 and read a few thousand pages outside of school a month.
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But are we really headed for an electropocalypse heralded by whatever's in this week's Best Buy flyer? Somehow I doubt it. Text messaging for example, seems to have made kids more comfortable with writing, and some evidence suggests that kids are actually growing more literate.
No, no, FUCK no. This texting crap is this decade's "ebonics". When I get comments on my Youtube videos like, "Wut music r u using?" I want to kick babies in the face.
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Hell I read in a month what other kids in my grade read for fun up till then in high school. I'm 16 and read a few thousand pages outside of school a month.
I can't read e-books, either. I'll grab a novel, shove it in a bookmate, and relax.
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Heavy Internet users tend to think they're smart because they can go look up any subject on Wikipedia and then speak about it as if they know something. That's not "smart"; that's a low-res facsimile of "smart".
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Lord Poe wrote:No, no, FUCK no. This texting crap is this decade's "ebonics". When I get comments on my Youtube videos like, "Wut music r u using?" I want to kick babies in the face.
That really jumped out at me too. Text messaging instead of reading books making people MORE literate? The writer doesn't even TRY to support this claim.
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Darth Wong wrote:Heavy Internet users tend to think they're smart because they can go look up any subject on Wikipedia and then speak about it as if they know something. That's not "smart"; that's a low-res facsimile of "smart".
Isn't that more of a traditional mentality where people view trivia as "smart"?
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Darth Wong wrote:Heavy Internet users tend to think they're smart because they can go look up any subject on Wikipedia and then speak about it as if they know something. That's not "smart"; that's a low-res facsimile of "smart".
It's definitely handy, though. And generally pretty accurate for things like chemistry, where it'd be difficult to recall things like chemical structure off the top of my head (chemistry being one of the few areas of science I do not enjoy studying).
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For reference, here's the entire Andrew Sullivan post, including posts to articles that he uses for his claims:

Is YouTube Making America Stupid?

18 Feb 2008 01:39 pm

[Peter Suderman] Susan Jacoby, following up on this Times Online piece, seems to think so. Right now, she says, there is "a disjunction between Americans' rising level of formal education and their shaky grasp of basic geography, science and history; and the fusion of anti-rationalism with anti-intellectualism."

Jacoby has joined the ranks of a growing cohort I think we should call techno-moralists. They run basically the same game as the moral scolds who shriek every time Quentin Tarantino or Eli Roth release new movies, or Rockstar Games puts out another edition of Grand Theft Auto. But instead complaining that culture is being debased by particular imagery, their complaint is that new technologies—particularly the internet—are causing the downfall of Western Civilization.

We saw this recently with Doris Lessing, for example, who in her Nobel Prize acceptance speech intimated that computers and the internet are rotting our brains. We hear ominous warnings that text-messaging teens are "losing very natural, human, instinctive skills" to a steady stream of communication via 160-character blips. Thanks to a combination of technology and laziness, American kids, we're told, are "dumber than dirt."

But are we really headed for an electropocalypse heralded by whatever's in this week's Best Buy flyer? Somehow I doubt it. Text messaging for example, seems to have made kids more comfortable with writing, and some evidence suggests that kids are actually growing more literate. Meanwhile, on the violent imagery front, violent crime amongst youth is down since 1993, when violent video games like Mortal Kombat began appearing.

Now, I'm not naïve enough to think that it's all sugar plums and roses. New technologies do cause changes in the way we live, and some of them will probably be at least partially negative. Shorter attention spans might become the norm, but so, I suspect, will greater ability to process larger amounts of discrete information. Memorization will decrease, of course, but ability to link and organize facts will probably increase. As video becomes more dominant, strong writing skills may not be as prevalent, but the ability to communicate in the grammar of film—sounds, images, spoken words—will grow as cheap high quality video cameras become the pens and notepads of the next generation.

So yes, as new technologies insinuate themselves into more and more lives, there are and will be trade offs, but Jacoby just ignores them. Instead of actually addressing the challenging and complex ways technology is transforming society, she's chosen simply to be offended—which, as far as I'm concerned, is an anti-intellectual stance if there ever was one.
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