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Killing people in a barfight doesn't seem very Jedi-like.
Obi-Wan Kenobi would like a word with you.

Ok, he didn't kill Jango in that fight, but it was mostly unarmed.
Well, in any case we need references to handwavium armour stinking of sixty plus years' worth of stale sweat; VT-16 deserves a medal for that one...
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VT-16 wrote:
Killing people in a barfight doesn't seem very Jedi-like.
Obi-Wan Kenobi would like a word with you.

Ok, he didn't kill Jango in that fight, but it was mostly unarmed.
On the other hand he did go unarmed against Grevious for a bit, ripped off his chest plate and killed him with a blaster.

Not to mention that this is the guy who sliced off a degenerate's arm in a bar for messing with Luke. If that isn't a barfight, what is? :P
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To be honest, from the grievous fight (*Suddenly twitches, imagining Grievous fighting Mandos in hand to hand) there should be at least one scene of a jedi punching a Mando in the chest and said armoured idiot going flying.
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Slightly off-topic but from the Grievous fight, in a Jedi versus Terminator scenario pops up, if both of them came at each other without any weapons, the Jedi could also just snap the Termie's neck. Or actually break the limbs of a Terminator! DAMN!
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Slightly off-topic but from the Grievous fight, in a Jedi versus Terminator scenario pops up, if both of them came at each other without any weapons, the Jedi could also just snap the Termie's neck. Or actually break the limbs of a Terminator! DAMN!
That's by no means certain. He breaks some small, delicate bits of grievous - that chest cavity was designed to open, remember, we see him do it in the cartoons - but he doesn't rip arms off and beat him to death with them, or anything.
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I guess those plates were primarily designed to resist impacts as opposed to mechanical pulling forces (haha, force).

But still, it's the biggest chunk of armor protecting his weak spot. Hell, it wasn't even a weak spot until Mack Daddy Obi Wan opened it by hand to expose his mighty system of organs. I wouldn't call that part of G delicate, or small.

It would've been so awesome if Obi Wan also gouged out General Grievous' eyeballs
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Slightly off-topic but from the Grievous fight, in a Jedi versus Terminator scenario pops up, if both of them came at each other without any weapons, the Jedi could also just snap the Termie's neck. Or actually break the limbs of a Terminator! DAMN!
That's by no means certain. He breaks some small, delicate bits of grievous - that chest cavity was designed to open, remember, we see him do it in the cartoons - but he doesn't rip arms off and beat him to death with them, or anything.
Obi-Wan doesn't break "delicate" moving parts - he bends the chest armor outward, deforming the actual material. That's supposedly starship-grade armor.
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Molyneux wrote:
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:Slightly off-topic but from the Grievous fight, in a Jedi versus Terminator scenario pops up, if both of them came at each other without any weapons, the Jedi could also just snap the Termie's neck. Or actually break the limbs of a Terminator! DAMN!
That's by no means certain. He breaks some small, delicate bits of grievous - that chest cavity was designed to open, remember, we see him do it in the cartoons - but he doesn't rip arms off and beat him to death with them, or anything.
Obi-Wan doesn't break "delicate" moving parts - he bends the chest armor outward, deforming the actual material. That's supposedly starship-grade armor.
yeah well Grievous feet bends the hull of the Iron Hand when he takes a walk outside, so maybe starship-grade armor ain't that ridged to begin with. :D
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NecronLord wrote:
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Slightly off-topic but from the Grievous fight, in a Jedi versus Terminator scenario pops up, if both of them came at each other without any weapons, the Jedi could also just snap the Termie's neck. Or actually break the limbs of a Terminator! DAMN!
That's by no means certain. He breaks some small, delicate bits of grievous - that chest cavity was designed to open, remember, we see him do it in the cartoons - but he doesn't rip arms off and beat him to death with them, or anything.
The novelisation of Episode III does however describe Kenobi bending one of Grievous' arms and 'crumbling it like a cheap spoon.' It's a pretty awesome quote if anyone's got the novelisation to hand...
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Aquatain wrote:
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NecronLord wrote: That's by no means certain. He breaks some small, delicate bits of grievous - that chest cavity was designed to open, remember, we see him do it in the cartoons - but he doesn't rip arms off and beat him to death with them, or anything.
Obi-Wan doesn't break "delicate" moving parts - he bends the chest armor outward, deforming the actual material. That's supposedly starship-grade armor.
yeah well Grievous feet bends the hull of the Iron Hand when he takes a walk outside, so maybe starship-grade armor ain't that ridged to begin with. :D
Where did you see that?
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OK, there is a scene from ROTS that would be perfect for this, when Obi-wan surprises the CIS leaders on Utapau, they call all their droids in surrounding him and Obi-wan uses the Force to drop big chunks of heavy machinery on them. Replace the CIS leaders with KTJelley and Dark Moose turd and the droids with mandos.
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Darth Servo wrote:OK, there is a scene from ROTS that would be perfect for this, when Obi-wan surprises the CIS leaders on Utapau, they call all their droids in surrounding him and Obi-wan uses the Force to drop big chunks of heavy machinery on them. Replace the CIS leaders with KTJelley and Dark Moose turd and the droids with mandos.
That actually gives me an idea!

Also, I should just do a web page about like I did for the Borg. Both Jango and Boba were snuck up on; one by a Jedi Master, and one by a blind pilot. Boba Fett couldn't hit Luke with his blaster from 2 feet away before it was cut in half. He couldn't hit him with his wrist blaster from even less than 15 feet away, and I guess Mandos haven't perfected anti-lightsaber handwavium rope.

Then there's the fact that Obi-Wan delivered a flying kick to Jango. Oops, did Traviss retcon that out of Jedis now?
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Spoof the Mandos as 300 Spartan wannabes (since they're just as wanked). Use the Sharon Crevice model as a biased female "journo" there to write an article on the Mandos. She's obviously in love with them and blatantly exxagerating their fighting ability, tech, and general superiority (using actual lines from Revelation).

Have Joe Jedi come in and ruin their collective circle jerk by stating plain facts from the movies. Have Boba Fett go into a Leonidas impression, and just as he's about to say "This is Mandalore!" the Jedi cuts him off and says "Star Wars" instead and effortlessly pwns him and the rest of his crew.

EDIT: And instead of the Jedi being kicked into a bottomless pit, Fett's jetpack malfunctions during the fight and he screams like a bitch as he falls in. :lol:
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Raynor's idea for the win.

Also, make sure if Crevice is there, every second sentence she utters has the word "journo" worked in there, - you know, just in case anyone forgot for more than a minute at a time.
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Molyneux wrote:
Aquatain wrote:
Molyneux wrote: Obi-Wan doesn't break "delicate" moving parts - he bends the chest armor outward, deforming the actual material. That's supposedly starship-grade armor.
yeah well Grievous feet bends the hull of the Iron Hand when he takes a walk outside, so maybe starship-grade armor ain't that ridged to begin with. :D
Where did you see that?
ROTS : Grievous moon walking outside the Iron Hand , you can clearly see his Claw feet bending the hull of the Iron Hand.
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ROTS on pg 328, paperback wrote:But Obi-Wan's arm had the Force to give it strength, and the General's arm only had the innate crystalline intermolecular structure of duranium alloy.
Grievous's forearm bent like a cheap spoon.
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That was a thin, small sheet of metal no more than a few mm thick, it's clearly not armor, and it's deformation had no consequence for hull integrity.
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Vympel wrote:Raynor's idea for the win.

Also, make sure if Crevice is there, every second sentence she utters has the word "journo" worked in there, - you know, just in case anyone forgot for more than a minute at a time.
I think I'm going to have to agree!
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Vympel wrote:That was a thin, small sheet of metal no more than a few mm thick, it's clearly not armor, and it's deformation had no consequence for hull integrity.
Re watch the scene and you'll clearly see his feet are ripping out a segment of the hull.

And how to you know for sure thats not armor?
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Lord Poe wrote:
Vympel wrote:Raynor's idea for the win.
Also, make sure if Crevice is there, every second sentence she utters has the word "journo" worked in there, - you know, just in case anyone forgot for more than a minute at a time.
I think I'm going to have to agree!
I'm glad to hear that because I love the idea, too :D
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havokeff wrote:Crazedwraith
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ROTS on pg 328, paperback wrote:But Obi-Wan's arm had the Force to give it strength, and the General's arm only had the innate crystalline intermolecular structure of duranium alloy.
Grievous's forearm bent like a cheap spoon.
Ee-yowch. that's a pretty effective phrasing, there.
I guess we've finally found a Terminator's natural enemy, then.
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VT-16 wrote:Obi-Wan Kenobi would like a word with you.
I was really referring to the Jedi not being that psychopathic, but as Darth Onasi mentioned, he did cut that guy's arm of in ANH. I'd forgotten that somehow.
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Doesn't he slice off an arm in a bar in AotC, too? Or was that anakin? Heh, i need to go watch AotC again.
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He takes off an arm in ANH and a hand in AOTC. Both people were armed with blasters and about to open fire. And really, with the level of cybernetics in SW, loosing a limb isn't all that bad.
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Aquatain wrote: Re watch the scene and you'll clearly see his feet are ripping out a segment of the hull.
All his foot does is bend and deform a very thin square/rectangle of metal. They're not "ripping out a segment of the hull". If that had happened a decompression would've taken place.
And how to you know for sure thats not armor?
What, so you think the Invisible Hand's armor is nothing but a collection of millimetre thick metal plates no larger than a few inches across? That was a superficial plate, not armor of any kind.
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