Different scale aliens?

SF: discuss futuristic sci-fi series, ideas, and crossovers.

Moderator: NecronLord

Lord of the Abyss
Village Idiot
Posts: 4046
Joined: 2005-06-15 12:21am
Location: The Abyss

Post by Lord of the Abyss »

There are the Noocytes from Blood Music, which are microscopic cell colonies.
User avatar
Patrick Degan
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 14847
Joined: 2002-07-15 08:06am
Location: Orleanian in exile

Post by Patrick Degan »

Image

From the TOS episode "Catspaw" —Korob and Sylvia in their true forms, seen only briefly before they died on Pyrus VII. Creatures from another galaxy. Kirk could have crushed both of them under his boot.

I always liked these two. You can see the strings in their one scene and that they're puppets made from pipe-cleaners and some useful odds-and-ends, but it was one of TOS' efforts to model a totally alien lifeform.
When ballots have fairly and constitutionally decided, there can be no successful appeal back to bullets.
—Abraham Lincoln

People pray so that God won't crush them like bugs.
—Dr. Gregory House

Oil an emergency?! It's about time, Brigadier, that the leaders of this planet of yours realised that to remain dependent upon a mineral slime simply doesn't make sense.
—The Doctor "Terror Of The Zygons" (1975)
User avatar
Nyrath
Padawan Learner
Posts: 341
Joined: 2006-01-23 04:04pm
Location: the praeternatural tower
Contact:

Post by Nyrath »

The cheela from Robert Forward's DRAGON'S EGG and STARQUAKE are composed of degenerate matter, and are about a millimeter wide. But they are composed of about the same number of nucleons as a human being.

In Sir Arthur C. Clarke's "A Meeting with Meduasa" there was a sort of aerial jellyfish living in Jupiter's atmosphere that was several kilometers in diameter. Similarly sized creatures can be found in Forward's SATURN RUHK, Ben Bova's AS ON A DARKLING PLAIN, and in Gregory Benford & Gordon Eklund IF THE STARS ARE GODS.

Fred Hoyle's THE BLACK CLOUD features an intelligent nebulae several astronomical units in diameter.
Paolo
Youngling
Posts: 147
Joined: 2007-11-18 06:48am

Post by Paolo »

Not quite ET, but the Ohm from "Nausicaa and the Valley of the Wind" were fairly intelligent. Then there's Leto II from "God Emperor."
User avatar
Molyneux
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 7186
Joined: 2005-03-04 08:47am
Location: Long Island

Post by Molyneux »

I can't believe no-one's thought to mention Mogo! Or that evil space virus thing that joins the 'other' Lanterns. For that matter, wasn't there an entire (populated) universe inside of a molecule or something, that the Atom found?
Ceci n'est pas une signature.
User avatar
CaptainChewbacca
Browncoat Wookiee
Posts: 15746
Joined: 2003-05-06 02:36am
Location: Deep beneath Boatmurdered.

Post by CaptainChewbacca »

The Arquellians from Men In Black, they're advanced and only about 2-3 inches tall.
Stuart: The only problem is, I'm losing track of which universe I'm in.
You kinda look like Jesus. With a lightsaber.- Peregrin Toker
ImageImage
User avatar
The Grim Squeaker
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 10319
Joined: 2005-06-01 01:44am
Location: A different time-space Continuum
Contact:

Post by The Grim Squeaker »

Molyneux wrote:I can't believe no-one's thought to mention Mogo! Or that evil space virus thing that joins the 'other' Lanterns. For that matter, wasn't there an entire (populated) universe inside of a molecule or something, that the Atom found?
There's also the sentient Space sector 3600, if you're bringing DC into this :P. (A giant psychic fusion of all the life in a 1/3600 of the universe).

The atom has whole universes in the subatomic levels, with people there.
Photography
Genius is always allowed some leeway, once the hammer has been pried from its hands and the blood has been cleaned up.
To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often.
User avatar
Broomstick
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 28846
Joined: 2004-01-02 07:04pm
Location: Industrial armpit of the US Midwest

Post by Broomstick »

Past the first book, Arthur C. Clarke's Rama series has species of various sizes, and one species that comes in many different sizes, to the point of needing separate living quarters, transportation, etc. for the different sizes.

And, on a totally different tangent, World of Warcraft (arguably not strict SciFi) has a tremendous range of sentient species. Among the playable ones, the largest (Tauren) is about 3-4 times the size of the smallest (gnome). In addition, you have sentient NPC's that are just simply huge, the size of small hills walking around.
A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. Leonard Nimoy.

Now I did a job. I got nothing but trouble since I did it, not to mention more than a few unkind words as regard to my character so let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid.- Malcolm Reynolds, Captain of Serenity, which sums up my feelings regarding the lawsuit discussed here.

If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. - John F. Kennedy

Sam Vimes Theory of Economic Injustice
User avatar
Themightytom
Sith Devotee
Posts: 2818
Joined: 2007-12-22 11:11am
Location: United States

Post by Themightytom »

well there were the "Giant Alients" from stargate SG-1's "Crystal Skull"

The funniest passage i ahe ever read involving tiny aliens was in John Scalzi's "Old Man War"

The main character is dejected and depressed about his mission in life and tries to open up with his good friend about how they are pointlessly destroying life when a little soldier comes up and tries to kill him so he angrily flicks it off into the distance.

"Since when is "the west" a nation?"-Styphon
"ACORN= Cobra obviously." AMT
This topic is... oh Village Idiot. Carry on then.--Havok
User avatar
Molyneux
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 7186
Joined: 2005-03-04 08:47am
Location: Long Island

Post by Molyneux »

Themightytom wrote:well there were the "Giant Alients" from stargate SG-1's "Crystal Skull"

The funniest passage i ahe ever read involving tiny aliens was in John Scalzi's "Old Man War"

The main character is dejected and depressed about his mission in life and tries to open up with his good friend about how they are pointlessly destroying life when a little soldier comes up and tries to kill him so he angrily flicks it off into the distance.
Oh, man, I loved that book!

And...about this living sector of space...I must hear more. Where did it pop up in the comics?
Ceci n'est pas une signature.
User avatar
Darth Onasi
Jedi Knight
Posts: 816
Joined: 2008-03-02 07:56pm
Location: On a beach beating Gackt to death with a parasol

Post by Darth Onasi »

Hmmm.. what about that sentient galaxy/God/remains of a space probe that collided with God from Futurama? :)
User avatar
Patrick Degan
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 14847
Joined: 2002-07-15 08:06am
Location: Orleanian in exile

Post by Patrick Degan »

There is a classic Porky Pig cartoon, Jumpin' Jupiter (1955), which has Porky and Sylvester (now a voiceless, nervous wreck) kidnapped by an alien spaceship, which uproots the entire patch of desert where they've stopped and pitched a tent for the night on their way to Las Vegas. Their campsite is accidently deposited on a nearby asteroid and Porky, who slept through the abduction, has no clue that he and Sylvester are not on Earth anymore. As he drives on in the morning, he passes two pairs of candy-stripped tree trunks on either side of the road —which are revealed to be the legs of giant ostrich-like alien beings, who wink at each other in amusement.
When ballots have fairly and constitutionally decided, there can be no successful appeal back to bullets.
—Abraham Lincoln

People pray so that God won't crush them like bugs.
—Dr. Gregory House

Oil an emergency?! It's about time, Brigadier, that the leaders of this planet of yours realised that to remain dependent upon a mineral slime simply doesn't make sense.
—The Doctor "Terror Of The Zygons" (1975)
User avatar
Drooling Iguana
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4975
Joined: 2003-05-13 01:07am
Location: Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha

Post by Drooling Iguana »

Wasn't there a sapient planet in the Green Lantern Corps at one point?
Image
"Stop! No one can survive these deadly rays!"
"These deadly rays will be your death!"
- Thor and Akton, Starcrash

"Before man reaches the moon your mail will be delivered within hours from New York to California, to England, to India or to Australia by guided missiles.... We stand on the threshold of rocket mail."
- Arthur Summerfield, US Postmaster General 1953 - 1961
User avatar
CaptainChewbacca
Browncoat Wookiee
Posts: 15746
Joined: 2003-05-06 02:36am
Location: Deep beneath Boatmurdered.

Post by CaptainChewbacca »

Molyneux wrote:
Themightytom wrote:well there were the "Giant Alients" from stargate SG-1's "Crystal Skull"

The funniest passage i ahe ever read involving tiny aliens was in John Scalzi's "Old Man War"

The main character is dejected and depressed about his mission in life and tries to open up with his good friend about how they are pointlessly destroying life when a little soldier comes up and tries to kill him so he angrily flicks it off into the distance.
Oh, man, I loved that book!

And...about this living sector of space...I must hear more. Where did it pop up in the comics?
Hear the story of MadGod, Sector 3600. Not a particularly nice fellow.
Stuart: The only problem is, I'm losing track of which universe I'm in.
You kinda look like Jesus. With a lightsaber.- Peregrin Toker
ImageImage
User avatar
Darth Onasi
Jedi Knight
Posts: 816
Joined: 2008-03-02 07:56pm
Location: On a beach beating Gackt to death with a parasol

Post by Darth Onasi »

Speaking of planets, there's the sentient Planet from Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri.
User avatar
Molyneux
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 7186
Joined: 2005-03-04 08:47am
Location: Long Island

Post by Molyneux »

Drooling Iguana wrote:Wasn't there a sapient planet in the Green Lantern Corps at one point?
Yes, Mogo. He's one of the longest-standing members, and my personal favorite; he even survived Hal Jordan's slaughtering of the Lantern Corps.
Ceci n'est pas une signature.
User avatar
Luzifer's right hand
Jedi Master
Posts: 1417
Joined: 2003-11-30 01:45pm
Location: Austria

Post by Luzifer's right hand »

Batman wrote:Again, the Perryverse. Gengeneered/mutated humans alone range from 2.5 metres tall (and 2 metres across the shoulders!) down to basic human in shape but 8 centimetres tall (if not smaller).
:p
Image
Batman wrote: Aliens are anything from approx 30 cm tall (if not smaller, the Swoon are merely the smallest I recall) all the way through planet size (SUPRAHET, Mobys) but most intelligent aliens (as I recall) were reasonably close to human size.
Again, any and all corrections are appreciated.
There is the Drung, a single one is 5*10^6 times smaller than the smallest known virus(as known 1965). Although I can't remember if a single Drung was actually intelligent.

The biggest are most likely the "Raumriesen" sentient interstellar clouds with multiple 10k light years diameter.
I asked The Lord, "Why hath thou forsaken me?" And He spoke unto me saying, "j00 R n00b 4 3VR", And I was like "stfu -_-;;"
eyl
Jedi Knight
Posts: 714
Joined: 2007-01-30 11:03am
Location: City of Gold and Iron

Post by eyl »

David Brin's Uplift series contains alien species covering a wide range of sizes (can't remember most of the species' names offhand, though)
kinnison
Padawan Learner
Posts: 298
Joined: 2006-12-04 05:38am

Post by kinnison »

I can't remember where I found this story, but there is a story around featuring sentient life that lives inside a cosmic string. Sapient lifeforms living at the Planck scale - top that!

I own the anthology it's in, but I can't find it - my collection is a bit of a mess.
User avatar
speaker-to-trolls
Jedi Master
Posts: 1182
Joined: 2003-11-18 05:46pm
Location: All Hail Britannia!

Post by speaker-to-trolls »

In Iain M Banks The Algerbraist the Dwellers and a few other species are quite a bit bigger than humans, not on nearly the same scale as most of those mentioned, but about 9 metres tall, and they operate far more slowly than humans so you have to slow yourself down with cybernetics to talk to them. At one point the protagonist also talks to an intelligent nebula which takes something like ten days to say a short sentence, this seems ridiculously quick but he was inside its brain at the time.

Then there are those early-stage-universe people from the Xeelee sequence, I think they were called quagmites, who are the size of an atomic nucleus and can only exist at temperatures used in human sublight engines (which are so hot that inside them the normal physical forces break down to one superforce). Then of course there's the Star People from Flux who are so small that the biggest city on their planet is an inch wide and they think it's pretty darn big.
Post Number 1066 achieved Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:19 pm(board time, 8:19GMT)
Batman: What do these guys want anyway?
Superman: Take over the world... Or rob banks, I'm not sure.
User avatar
SylasGaunt
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 5267
Joined: 2002-09-04 09:39pm
Location: GGG

Post by SylasGaunt »

Themightytom wrote:well there were the "Giant Alients" from stargate SG-1's "Crystal Skull"

The funniest passage i ahe ever read involving tiny aliens was in John Scalzi's "Old Man War"

The main character is dejected and depressed about his mission in life and tries to open up with his good friend about how they are pointlessly destroying life when a little soldier comes up and tries to kill him so he angrily flicks it off into the distance.
Yeah that bit was pure win with the main character having a small nervous breakdown because he's slaughtering people who are, what was it, an inch tall?
Post Reply