Jedi vs Mando Video Discussion Thread!

[Lord Poe]

Hey gents, are you sure these guys wouldn't do? It would make the job a LOT easier. Do the "modern-day" all look like Fett, and not the Deltas?

[Havok]

Yeah, sorry Poe. They all look like Fett, or some variation of his armor.

[Darth Onasi]

That was a thin, small sheet of metal no more than a few mm thick, it's clearly not armor, and it's deformation had no consequence for hull integrity.

Re watch the scene and you'll clearly see his feet are ripping out a segment of the hull.

And how to you know for sure thats not armor?

Considering this is the same ship that moments later survives a rapid re-entry and crash landing it was never designed for I'd think that it's armor is made of sturdier stuff than that.

[Thag]

Just a suggestion, if you're going to do a fight scene, this song seemed to work pretty well for large saber fights and running around in KOTOR (I tried it in Jedi Academy, but my computer pitched a fit, so no idea how well it syncs there).

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And, from what I've seen of these arguments, it would fit the Mando fanyboys pretty well.

[Vehrec]

I personally would have had it with Jania alone in a bar with 100 mandos who are all trying to convince her to come hang with them on mando-world. Suddenly, Mace Windu bursts through the door and proclaims that the party is over. Cue blasters, rockets, thermal detonators and the total destruction of the bar. . . but when it's all over, Jaina's fruity girly drink still has it's umbrella.
Just a thought.

[Master of Ossus]

Spoof the Mandos as 300 Spartan wannabes (since they're just as wanked). Use the Sharon Crevice model as a biased female "journo" there to write an article on the Mandos. She's obviously in love with them and blatantly exxagerating their fighting ability, tech, and general superiority (using actual lines from Revelation).

Have Joe Jedi come in and ruin their collective circle jerk by stating plain facts from the movies. Have Boba Fett go into a Leonidas impression, and just as he's about to say "This is Mandalore!" the Jedi cuts him off and says "Star Wars" instead and effortlessly pwns him and the rest of his crew.

EDIT: And instead of the Jedi being kicked into a bottomless pit, Fett's jetpack malfunctions during the fight and he screams like a bitch as he falls in.

Great idea! Only a total genius could have come up with anything remotely similar!

Seriously, though, I think we should go with it.

[Aquatain]

Re watch the scene and you'll clearly see his feet are ripping out a segment of the hull.

All his foot does is bend and deform a very thin square/rectangle of metal. They're not "ripping out a segment of the hull". If that had happened a decompression would've taken place.

And how to you know for sure thats not armor?

What, so you think the Invisible Hand's armor is nothing but a collection of millimetre thick metal plates no larger than a few inches across? That was a superficial plate, not armor of any kind.

I stand corrected it was a poor choice of words, I should have written "ripping up a segment of the hull", my point being as in the original post that the armor of the ship do not necessary need to be ridged in order to be great to defend against starship weaponry, A starship might be build around a ridged frame and have non-ridged super ablative armour tiles "glued" on.

Keep in mind we are discussing if armour has to ridged in order to function.

[Aquatain]

That was a thin, small sheet of metal no more than a few mm thick, it's clearly not armor, and it's deformation had no consequence for hull integrity.

Re watch the scene and you'll clearly see his feet are ripping out a segment of the hull.

And how to you know for sure thats not armor?

Considering this is the same ship that moments later survives a rapid re-entry and crash landing it was never designed for I'd think that it's armor is made of sturdier stuff than that.

Armor do not have to be ridged in order to have resistance to thermal heat nor does it need to be ridged if it's build around a ridged frame.

[Molyneux]

Re watch the scene and you'll clearly see his feet are ripping out a segment of the hull.

All his foot does is bend and deform a very thin square/rectangle of metal. They're not "ripping out a segment of the hull". If that had happened a decompression would've taken place.

And how to you know for sure thats not armor?

What, so you think the Invisible Hand's armor is nothing but a collection of millimetre thick metal plates no larger than a few inches across? That was a superficial plate, not armor of any kind.

I stand corrected it was a poor choice of words, I should have written "ripping up a segment of the hull", my point being as in the original post that the armor of the ship do not necessary need to be ridged in order to be great to defend against starship weaponry, A starship might be build around a ridged frame and have non-ridged super ablative armour tiles "glued" on.

Keep in mind we are discussing if armour has to ridged in order to function.

What the fuck do ridges have to do with anything?

[Aquatain]

All his foot does is bend and deform a very thin square/rectangle of metal. They're not "ripping out a segment of the hull". If that had happened a decompression would've taken place.
What, so you think the Invisible Hand's armor is nothing but a collection of millimetre thick metal plates no larger than a few inches across? That was a superficial plate, not armor of any kind.

I stand corrected it was a poor choice of words, I should have written "ripping up a segment of the hull", my point being as in the original post that the armor of the ship do not necessary need to be ridged in order to be great to defend against starship weaponry, A starship might be build around a ridged frame and have non-ridged super ablative armour tiles "glued" on.

Keep in mind we are discussing if armour has to ridged in order to function.

What the fuck do ridges have to do with anything?

Baah "Ridget"... it's late

[Connor MacLeod]

Put Lucas's kid back in as a Jedi fighting Fandalorians and kicking their ass.

[Molyneux]

Baah "Ridget"... it's late

Err....do you mean "rigid" - hard and unbending?
Given that the armor in Star Wars appears to be mostly metallic-ish, and meant to withstand physical impacts as well as energy weapons, it makes sense for it to be pretty darn strong.

[Lord_Xerxes]

Spoof the Mandos as 300 Spartan wannabes (since they're just as wanked). Use the Sharon Crevice model as a biased female "journo" there to write an article on the Mandos. She's obviously in love with them and blatantly exxagerating their fighting ability, tech, and general superiority (using actual lines from Revelation).

Have Joe Jedi come in and ruin their collective circle jerk by stating plain facts from the movies. Have Boba Fett go into a Leonidas impression, and just as he's about to say "This is Mandalore!" the Jedi cuts him off and says "Star Wars" instead and effortlessly pwns him and the rest of his crew.

EDIT: And instead of the Jedi being kicked into a bottomless pit, Fett's jetpack malfunctions during the fight and he screams like a bitch as he falls in.

Great idea! Only a total genius could have come up with anything remotely similar!

Seriously, though, I think we should go with it.

I second Ossus, but maybe we should put it to vote? But as he's said before, the Mando's to Spartans comparisson/humor pratically writes itself.

[Lord Poe]

Gents, give me your opinion on this. Would this look "mando" enough?





This is a costume for "The Movies" game, not "Jedi Academy". I am just in the early stages of figuring this costume out; what's going to get repeated on the other side, etc.
Of course, I can change the color of the costume and helmet.

[Darth Servo]

I think if the armor's the right color, it should work. I know I couldn't tell if it was real mando armor or not w/o a picture for comparison.

[Darth Servo]

Spoof the Mandos as 300 Spartan wannabes (since they're just as wanked). Use the Sharon Crevice model as a biased female "journo" there to write an article on the Mandos. She's obviously in love with them and blatantly exxagerating their fighting ability, tech, and general superiority (using actual lines from Revelation).

Have Joe Jedi come in and ruin their collective circle jerk by stating plain facts from the movies. Have Boba Fett go into a Leonidas impression, and just as he's about to say "This is Mandalore!" the Jedi cuts him off and says "Star Wars" instead and effortlessly pwns him and the rest of his crew.

EDIT: And instead of the Jedi being kicked into a bottomless pit, Fett's jetpack malfunctions during the fight and he screams like a bitch as he falls in.

Great idea! Only a total genius could have come up with anything remotely similar!

Seriously, though, I think we should go with it.

I second Ossus, but maybe we should put it to vote? But as he's said before, the Mando's to Spartans comparisson/humor pratically writes itself.

I personally think it would be hillarious. However, the drawback is all the mando-wankers might be Sparta wankers too and the parady might end up backfiring? Afterall, the targets of this parody aren't exactly known for being rational you know. Furthermore, there are a LOT of 300 wankers out there who wouldn't see this as parody.

[Shroom Man 777]

I like it. It looks so Fetty, but is also gay and would add more acid to their demeaning.

[Chris OFarrell]

You know, I think I've cracked it.

All this talk about doing a video to mock this Mandolorian BS...

I'm sure we all remember the Robot Chicken SW special. In which Boba dances around a frozen Han Solo and comes onto him.

Could that have snapped Travis's mind in rage, that someone would DARE mock her beloved dream lover so? And so she started to write her books and really upped the Mando rage?

When was Fury started? Revelation?

[Alexian Cale]

Crazedwraith
Molyneux

But Obi-Wan's arm had the Force to give it strength, and the General's arm only had the innate crystalline intermolecular structure of duranium alloy.
Grievous's forearm bent like a cheap spoon.

I never quite understood that bit in the novelization, especially when both it and the movie have Grievous throwing and physically overpowering Obi-Wan.

[Molyneux]

Crazedwraith
Molyneux

But Obi-Wan's arm had the Force to give it strength, and the General's arm only had the innate crystalline intermolecular structure of duranium alloy.
Grievous's forearm bent like a cheap spoon.

I never quite understood that bit in the novelization, especially when both it and the movie have Grievous throwing and physically overpowering Obi-Wan.

"Physically overpowering", I don't remember...but physical fighting gets pretty darn weird when the lifting/pushing capability of the combatants becomes significantly greater than their own mass. All sorts of counterintuitive things start happening.

[Alexian Cale]

Crazedwraith
Molyneux

I never quite understood that bit in the novelization, especially when both it and the movie have Grievous throwing and physically overpowering Obi-Wan.

"Physically overpowering", I don't remember...but physical fighting gets pretty darn weird when the lifting/pushing capability of the combatants becomes significantly greater than their own mass. All sorts of counterintuitive things start happening.

I'm afraid I don't understand. I recall General Grievous hurling Obi-Wan around like a ragdoll and demonstrating strength, speed, and physical combat abilities well in excess of Kenobi's. Each time he tried to attack the General, he ended up damaging himself. Grievous was winning the hand-to-hand engagement.

[Master of Ossus]

I personally think it would be hillarious. However, the drawback is all the mando-wankers might be Sparta wankers too and the parady might end up backfiring? Afterall, the targets of this parody aren't exactly known for being rational you know. Furthermore, there are a LOT of 300 wankers out there who wouldn't see this as parody.

You can parody something without copying all the dialogue, or by adding your own to make fun of their perspective. After the guy (Karen Traviss?) screams that "These are MANDOS," for example, you can just have some clone say softly, "Yeah, but... those are droidekas that we're up against," and then we can throw in quotes from other sources about how a clone was a bit better than a normal battle droid but slightly WORSE than a Super Battle Droid. And then another clone can say something like, "Well, how the hell is one of us supposed to beat up on a Jedi Knight like we do in Revelation? I mean, didn't that fight involve a one-on-one match-up between a pretty good Mando and a high-level Jedi Knight? Don't Jedi pretty much tear up SBD's? I mean, I used to watch Clone Wars. Mace Windu dominated the SBD's on Dantooine like Warren Sapp at a Pop Warner practice." This whole thing would preferably be done with the clone having a thought bubble of Mace Windu PUNCHING THE SBD'S APART from the CW cartoons, but it could go without the direct image if necessary.

[Jim Raynor]

I personally think it would be hillarious. However, the drawback is all the mando-wankers might be Sparta wankers too and the parady might end up backfiring? Afterall, the targets of this parody aren't exactly known for being rational you know. Furthermore, there are a LOT of 300 wankers out there who wouldn't see this as parody.

I think the key would be to make the Mandos out not so much to be true badasses, but ridiculous screaming braggarts. Have one of them tell a young warrior that he isn't a true Mando until he can kill 200 men with his bare hands, or something like that. Have Boba claim to be the galaxy's #1 Jedi killer (which Revelation claims), which will later get exposed as the lie it is when Joe Jedi comes in telling the truth.

Poe:

I actually think the Republic Commando models would work. They're complete models, which are detailed and look good. You don't need to make them 100% accurate to modern Mandos. Sharon Crevice isn't a perfect mirror image of Karen Traviss, but everyone knows who she's supposed to be and that's what matters. "The Movies" costume is fine, but if you can't get the helmet to be a different color than the default green, then it would look strange having everyone looking like that. I would just stick to the RC ones.

[Darth Servo]

Have Boba claim to be the galaxy's #1 Jedi killer (which Revelation claims), which will later get exposed as the lie it is when Joe Jedi comes in telling the truth.

WFT? I haven't even bothered reading Revelation but where does she get this shit? Is she talking about new Jedi in the post-ROTJ era? I mean, Boba was only 13 by the end of the Clone Wars.

[Molyneux]

Have Boba claim to be the galaxy's #1 Jedi killer (which Revelation claims), which will later get exposed as the lie it is when Joe Jedi comes in telling the truth.

WFT? I haven't even bothered reading Revelation but where does she get this shit? Is she talking about new Jedi in the post-ROTJ era? I mean, Boba was only 13 by the end of the Clone Wars.

Hell, has Boba Fett ever killed a Jedi?