Jedi vs Mando Video Discussion Thread!

[Vympel]

Jaina says

You've killed and captured more Jedi than anyone

I'm thinking the response going like this:- What? Like who? Surely you can name a few, then? This is a guy who a barely trained Luke Skywalker disarmed with a swing of his lightsabre in one second? He's killed and captured more Jedi than fucking Darth Vader now? Are you smoking crack? How do you write this shit?

He couldn't even take down Jaden Korr in Jedi Academy, ffs. He flew away like a bitch.

[Darth Onasi]

Maybe Boba Fett is taking credit for Order 66..

Fett: "Oh actually those guys weren't clones. They were all me. Yeah. I'm just badass like that."

[Darksider]

Maybe Boba Fett is taking credit for Order 66..

Fett: "Oh actually those guys weren't clones. They were all me. Yeah. I'm just badass like that."

I doubt that, but the basic way to retcon this bit of karen's stupidity is for someone to state that Fett spent the post-ROTJ years artificially inflating his own reputation, until people think he's the "numbah 1 jedi killer in the galaxy."


Think about it. Jedi are supposed to be the most feared warriors ever. If he can fool people into thinking he's killed a shitload of them, he can probably charge more for his bounties.

EDIT: Actually, now that I think of it, that should be in the movie. Fett talking to some flamboyantly gay PR guy about his campaign to fool the galaxy into thinking he's killed sooooo many jedi, when his actual tally is zero.

[Vympel]

Maybe Boba Fett is taking credit for Order 66..

Fett: "Oh actually those guys weren't clones. They were all me. Yeah. I'm just badass like that."

No, he makes a comment about his "brothers" and Order 66 right after in the book.

Haven't any of your guys read the review?

[Darth Onasi]

Maybe Boba Fett is taking credit for Order 66..

Fett: "Oh actually those guys weren't clones. They were all me. Yeah. I'm just badass like that."

No, he makes a comment about his "brothers" and Order 66 right after in the book.

Haven't any of your guys read the review?

Alas my constitution is rather weak. I couldn't finish it; the excerpts in the review alone made me nauseous.

[Darth Hoth]

I'm thinking the response going like this:- What? Like who? Surely you can name a few, then? This is a guy who a barely trained Luke Skywalker disarmed with a swing of his lightsabre in one second? He's killed and captured more Jedi than fucking Darth Vader now? Are you smoking crack? How do you write this shit?

He couldn't even take down Jaden Korr in Jedi Academy, ffs. He flew away like a bitch.

His combat record against Force-users certainly ranges from mediocre to abyssal. About the closest thing to killing a Jedi that I can remember him performing is fighting two Dark Side Elite mediocrities to a standstill in Dark Empire II.

[Anguirus]

^ And in that same book he got pwned by Chewbacca.

[Havok]

^ And in that same book he got pwned by Chewbacca.

What a waste his death turned out to be.

[Feil]

Boba Fett is an bounty hunter, not a fighter. Why should we see his inability to fight Luke (or anyone else) at close quarters as an indicator that he's bad at killing people? Look at how he bags Han Solo - he calls in a fucking Imperial fleet to finish the job for him. Given Star Wars' disposable firepower and his employer's lack of morals, there are dozens of perfectly good ways to murder a Jedi, from bribing a ground crew to load a bomb onto the target's spaceship to attacking the apartment complex he's sleeping in with multiple successive kiloton nukes.

[Darth Hoth]

Boba Fett is an bounty hunter, not a fighter. Why should we see his inability to fight Luke (or anyone else) at close quarters as an indicator that he's bad at killing people? Look at how he bags Han Solo - he calls in a fucking Imperial fleet to finish the job for him. Given Star Wars' disposable firepower and his employer's lack of morals, there are dozens of perfectly good ways to murder a Jedi, from bribing a ground crew to load a bomb onto the target's spaceship to attacking the apartment complex he's sleeping in with multiple successive kiloton nukes.

But that is not Mando kriffing honourable, so a public hero such as the great Boba Fett would not deign to such depths of dishonesty...

[The Grim Squeaker]

Boba Fett is an bounty hunter, not a fighter. Why should we see his inability to fight Luke (or anyone else) at close quarters as an indicator that he's bad at killing people? Look at how he bags Han Solo - he calls in a fucking Imperial fleet to finish the job for him. Given Star Wars' disposable firepower and his employer's lack of morals, there are dozens of perfectly good ways to murder a Jedi, from bribing a ground crew to load a bomb onto the target's spaceship to attacking the apartment complex he's sleeping in with multiple successive kiloton nukes.

But that is not Mando kriffing honourable, so a public hero such as the great Boba Fett would not deign to such depths of dishonesty...

Bah, what happened to the good old days of him being a cunning SOB who planned incessantly and went in blasters flying as a diversion or when ambushed. Look at how he captured Han the first time, fancy poison darts, and he got nailed by Lando due to a lucky shot. He did not blast through Jabba's palace nor did he rip out the hearts of his foes with his Te'ey'th honed with razor sharp mandalorian toothpicks .

[Molyneux]

Boba Fett is an bounty hunter, not a fighter. Why should we see his inability to fight Luke (or anyone else) at close quarters as an indicator that he's bad at killing people? Look at how he bags Han Solo - he calls in a fucking Imperial fleet to finish the job for him. Given Star Wars' disposable firepower and his employer's lack of morals, there are dozens of perfectly good ways to murder a Jedi, from bribing a ground crew to load a bomb onto the target's spaceship to attacking the apartment complex he's sleeping in with multiple successive kiloton nukes.

But that is not Mando kriffing honourable, so a public hero such as the great Boba Fett would not deign to such depths of dishonesty...

Bah, what happened to the good old days of him being a cunning SOB who planned incessantly and went in blasters flying as a diversion or when ambushed. Look at how he captured Han the first time, fancy poison darts, and he got nailed by Lando due to a lucky shot. He did not blast through Jabba's palace nor did he rip out the hearts of his foes with his Te'ey'th honed with razor sharp mandalorian toothpicks .

Perhaps the author should remember, Vader reminded him "No disintegrations" for a reason.

[The Grim Squeaker]

But that is not Mando kriffing honourable, so a public hero such as the great Boba Fett would not deign to such depths of dishonesty...

Bah, what happened to the good old days of him being a cunning SOB who planned incessantly and went in blasters flying as a diversion or when ambushed. Look at how he captured Han the first time, fancy poison darts, and he got nailed by Lando due to a lucky shot. He did not blast through Jabba's palace nor did he rip out the hearts of his foes with his Te'ey'th honed with razor sharp mandalorian toothpicks .

Perhaps the author should remember, Vader reminded him "No disintegrations" for a reason.

Er, are you talking about Traviss or the author of the Han solo trilogy (From whence my example came)

[Jim Raynor]

Boba Fett is an bounty hunter, not a fighter. Why should we see his inability to fight Luke (or anyone else) at close quarters as an indicator that he's bad at killing people? Look at how he bags Han Solo - he calls in a fucking Imperial fleet to finish the job for him. Given Star Wars' disposable firepower and his employer's lack of morals, there are dozens of perfectly good ways to murder a Jedi, from bribing a ground crew to load a bomb onto the target's spaceship to attacking the apartment complex he's sleeping in with multiple successive kiloton nukes.

Except that Boba's supposed history of Jedi-killing was used as a justification for Jaina going to him for hand-to-hand training.

[Havok]

Boba Fett is an bounty hunter, not a fighter. Why should we see his inability to fight Luke (or anyone else) at close quarters as an indicator that he's bad at killing people? Look at how he bags Han Solo - he calls in a fucking Imperial fleet to finish the job for him. Given Star Wars' disposable firepower and his employer's lack of morals, there are dozens of perfectly good ways to murder a Jedi, from bribing a ground crew to load a bomb onto the target's spaceship to attacking the apartment complex he's sleeping in with multiple successive kiloton nukes.

Except that Boba's supposed history of Jedi-killing was used as a justification for Jaina going to him for hand-to-hand training.

When exactly did all this Jedi killing happen? Boba was 10 when AOTC took place, and what, 13 when Order 66 was executed. 66 wiped out the majority of the Jedi, and Vader presumably got the majority of the survivors. So when did Boba in the span of, say 10 years, get all this Jedi killing in... the Jedi that were either lucky enough, skilled enough, or elusive enough, NOT to be killed by Darth Vader?
Yet Boba, who is a normal human with only 5 or 6 years of time with his dad, who obviously was no match for the best of the Jedi, the type that only someone like Palpatine or Vader could kill, comes out of puberty with 1337 Jedi killing skills?
Oh and I say 10 years, because someone like Han Solo, a galaxy hoper and someone like Admiral Motti, both agree that the Force and Jedi are just a fucking myth and that doesn't happen over night, so I figure there are at least 10 years before ROTJ, when Yoda tells Luke he is the LAST of the Jedi, that the Jedi are gone. "Extinct" I belive Moff Tarkin called them.

[Darth Onasi]

I suppose Fett could've offed a new order Jedi here and there in the heat of battle, as his father did on Geonosis (then again that was just a really stupid Jedi). But that's it.

I can only guess that apart from Traviss wanking Fett's abilities yet again, it's also a result of an odd little brain bug that's been part of the EU, that bounty hunters in SW are in fact specialized Jedi hunters, and that of course Fett is the best bounty hunter there ever was.
Hence, Boba Fett the best bounty hunter = Boba Fett the best Jedi killer. A horrible leap in logic, but not KT's alone.

[Molyneux]

Er, are you talking about Traviss or the author of the Han solo trilogy (From whence my example came)

Sorry, I meant Traviss - I quite enjoyed the Han Solo Trilogy, including the depiction of Fett.

[Typhonis 1]

So No Mandos having a party when the doors open and Vader walks in asking them about 'offing weak Jedi' and if he qualified?

[Sidewinder]

So No Mandos having a party when the doors open and Vader walks in asking them about 'offing weak Jedi' and if he qualified?

It would be amusing to see Vader's reaction when he finds out Boba Fett's been getting the credit for all the Jedi the Sith Lord killed.

[Connor MacLeod]

I had this sitting on the back of my mind for awhile, but I meant to discuss it.

The issue of the whole Mandalorian Iron thing and Mandalorian armour and it making the armor "lightsaber immune" is a bit silly. Even granting it arguably fantastical properties (and I noticed the whole "Exar Kun" bit got nitpicked on TFN also..) is pretty irrelevant from a coverage standpoint.

If you look at examples of Mandalorina armor, the coverage is alot less impressive than other types (say Clone or stormtrooper armor) It seems to cover the vitals rather well (the head, the chest, etc.) but it leaves alot of the others exposed (arms/legs, etc.) and in some cases even the vitals can have weak gaps (especailyl around the neck/shoulder area). And more often than not they seem to wear nothign more than some sort of fabric flightsuit or body glove, which I rather doubt is made of Mandalorain Iron (unless they can weave the shit too - I'm sure the Super Mandos will be able to at some point..)

Also, I don't really see a great deal of rigidity in the armor, so it also probably is rather vulnerable to blunt-force trauma or high force/momentum attacks (such as force shoves/throws, or hurling objects.)

Mandolorian armor seems to emphasize mobility significantly more than protection, which can be an asset, but there's still a heap of problems with it versus Jedi. They're not invulerable to lightsabers, nor to TK attacks.

[Lord Revan]

considering that Revan (both pre and post mindwipe) didn't have extreme difficulties in dealing with the mandalorians of his era (and since mandalore (planet) was under mando control during that era) I'd call mando iron being lightsaber immune BS (ofc this doesn't mean it's not lightsaber resistant)

[Lord Poe]

Check the progress:





Now I have to make about 4 Mandos, and a generic Jedi!

[Havok]

Lookin' good Poe. Can I request one of the Mandalorians be a red and black one? I like Darth Maul.

[Connor MacLeod]

for some reason the very minute I popped into this thread to check, the term "Mangolorians" popped into my head.

Also the term "Mango'ade"

[QuentinGeorge]

Generic Jedi should be Komari Vosa - a padawan who killed twenty Mandalorians on her own, but was considered a failure and not promoted to knighthood.