Woman Sits on Toilet for 2 yrs + Japanese Women are obsolete

[The Jester]

From my own personal experience, that is exactly what they do. I one time had a girlfriend, while I was living in Japan, who one time went catatonic on me when were going to have sex. She didn't move, didn't speak, didn't smile, nothing. She just laid there.

Perhaps this can add some insight on why this happened to you.

There seems to be a strong expectation amongst Japanese men for women to be completely passive during sex. The poster I linked to above has often theorised that it has a lot to do with power struggles between individuals.

[FSTargetDrone]

Toilet seat - there have been cases where morbidly obese people who could not move had their skin grow into whatever they were sitting on, like this one where the woman could not be separated from her couch.

I wonder if Toilet Seat Woman is obese? Unless I missed something after a second reading at 3:00am, the article says nothing about her physical condition other than her legs appeared to be "atrophied" (gah) but she may well have been somewhat overweight, which might explain how her flesh/skin "grew" over the seat. If she was significantly overweight, I suppose the story would have mentioned it.

Anyway, short of being physically restrained in some way, I don't understand how anyone could remain sitting on a toilet for years unless there was some really powerful psychological weirdness going on. If she were physically impaired in some way (paraplegic), one would think she would have eventually just fallen off of the seat, unless of course she was repeatedly put back on the seat. And the horror story example of the Couch Woman, at least a couch is soft and one can recline on it. A toilet is hard, even with a cushioned seat.

It would be a lot easier to understand if she were imprisoned in the bathroom. She never got up once in over 2 years? Not to pick up something she dropped? I get a sore back sitting in my comfortable desk chair for a few hours, I cannot imagine what sort of back pains this woman would have endured for 2 years on a toilet seat. That seems hard to believe...

Ugh. The entire thing is nauseating. And I wonder if there is more to this story, especially concerning the "boyfriend."

[Oskuro]

Regarding the Japanese problem, I don't think its only the sex. I'm no expert, but I'm under the impression that relationships over there (like, say, marriage) are so bogged down by social norms and expectations, that they can be quite stressful.

I mean, we're talking about a country where a teenager can lock himself in the kitchen, and his family won't dare do anything for fear of social shame.

I'm guessing all the "lying and moaning like a raped schoolgirl" is more a sympthom than the actual issue.

[18-Till-I-Die]

Man this sucks.

Years of reading Megatokyo led me to believe that Japan was one of the last bastions of nerd culture, where a maladjusted, friendless, pawing, misogynist could actually get laid...now this.

Fuck! Why can i never roll a good Charisma?

[Shroom Man 777]

Well, I guess that kind of fucked up culture wasn't hinted at all in all the animus I watched. Mang. How can such cool stuff come from a land full of such losers?

And poor toilet lady.

[Oskuro]

Well, I guess that kind of fucked up culture wasn't hinted at all in all the animus I watched.

Actually, it's all over the place. Take note on how much of a big deal inter-personal relationships tend to be in anime or manga.

[Korvan]

Man this sucks.

Years of reading Megatokyo led me to believe that Japan was one of the last bastions of nerd culture, where a maladjusted, friendless, pawing, misogynist could actually get laid...now this.

Fuck! Why can i never roll a good Charisma?

Just remember, most people with high Charisma have Int as their dump stat.

That toilet story is just bizarre, how could anyone even spend a day on the loo without going nuts? I'd at least need my computer system moved in. And some books, a lot of books.

[Molyneux]

Man this sucks.

Years of reading Megatokyo led me to believe that Japan was one of the last bastions of nerd culture, where a maladjusted, friendless, pawing, misogynist could actually get laid...now this.

Fuck! Why can i never roll a good Charisma?

Just remember, most people with high Charisma have Int as their dump stat.

That toilet story is just bizarre, how could anyone even spend a day on the loo without going nuts? I'd at least need my computer system moved in. And some books, a lot of books.

Really? I generally pick Wis as the dump stat...

[The Yosemite Bear]

why is this reminding me of the Bill Maher comments on the AI robot sex doll?

and why does the ad scroll on the bottom have "hot asian girls?"

[Sidewinder]

Article 1: WHAT THE FUCK?! Seriously, why would the boyfriend let his girlfriend sit on a toilet for TWO DAMN YEARS?! Was he also mentally disabled, e.g., he saw nothing wrong with the fact his girlfriend hasn't moved from the same damn location-- THE SAME FUCKING TOILET-- for TWO DAMN YEARS?!

Article 2: It's somewhat comforting to know I'm not alone in suffering from severe social phobias.

[Sidewinder]

Well, I guess that kind of fucked up culture wasn't hinted at all in all the animus I watched. Mang. How can such cool stuff come from a land full of such losers?

As noted, the social norms there are so repressive, the Japanese turn to truly FUCKED UP things to relieve the resulting tension, e.g., wild-- VERY WILD-- fantasies expressed in anime. When someone pisses them off, social norms dictate that they must shut up and take it, while their id demands that they jump on the guy/gal and tear off his/her face with their teeth. What you see in anime is the id-- what you see in real life is the superego saying, "Shut up and take it."

[Zablorg]

How does skin grow around a toilet seat anyway? I'm having a bit of a hard time imagining this.

[Shinova]

Anime and manga are pretty much escapist fantasy, so don't get clues of real Japanese society from those things. And Japanese are going to act differently in front of foreigners pretty much guaranteed so accounts from foreigners may not tell the whole story either. You have to get a native Japanese who's fluent in English to give you the real story, and there's one on an anime forum I frequent who doesn't seem to post anymore who has always given the impression that Japan is hell to live in.

[FSTargetDrone]

Article 1: WHAT THE FUCK?! Seriously, why would the boyfriend let his girlfriend sit on a toilet for TWO DAMN YEARS?! Was he also mentally disabled, e.g., he saw nothing wrong with the fact his girlfriend hasn't moved from the same damn location-- THE SAME FUCKING TOILET-- for TWO DAMN YEARS?!

It's unclear from the article if she is mentally disabled, but even if this is so, it's hard to see how an otherwise mobile woman (assuming she was) can do something like this with enough single-mindedness to result in being physically attached. The story does say she spent a long time indoors earlier in life, but that she also worked outside her home for some time as well.

One thing is clear, however, for some reason, she remained in place long enough to essentially bond with the seat and have her legs apparently atrophy.

It'd be easier to see how this was possible if she were tightly restrained, you know, somehow prevented from moving at all.

I'm getting this horrible mental image of an overweight body sort of settling or slowly "melting" into place. The interior of that bathroom, at least the toilet, must have been a nightmare of filth. I wonder if there weren't pressure wounds involved, as well.

Utterly horrifying. They should burn the building down and bury the ashes of the place.

[Oskuro]

As for article #1... The toilet scene from Lethal Weapon (2?) kind of came to mind

[Mlenk]

Toilet seat - there have been cases where morbidly obese people who could not move had their skin grow into whatever they were sitting on, like this one where the woman could not be separated from her couch.

Now that is truly disgusting. At least the woman stuck on the toilet had a proper place to relieve herself. But the one in your link was stuck on a couch for 6 years! It even mentioned that the emergency workers had to blast in fresh air and wear gas masks because of the overpowering stench.

[Lord Poe]

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnK-SnL0tBs (It's ok to watch; its just a news report.

According to this, she sat on the toilet for about a month, but "lived" in the bathroom for 2 years. Since this is a mobile home, I doubt it had a second bathroom. Ugh...

[Broomstick]

Article 1: WHAT THE FUCK?! Seriously, why would the boyfriend let his girlfriend sit on a toilet for TWO DAMN YEARS?! Was he also mentally disabled, e.g., he saw nothing wrong with the fact his girlfriend hasn't moved from the same damn location-- THE SAME FUCKING TOILET-- for TWO DAMN YEARS?!

Ever watch Dr. G, Medical Examiner? The particular case I’m thinking of involved a woman who would not go to a doctor for any reason – so she became weak and blind and had an infection (which eventually killed her) where her leg turned black and shriveled from the toes to her knee. Her husband was nearly prosecuted on neglect and some sort of negligent homicide charge. It was just that short of tying her up and physically dragging her into a doctor’s office she would not go no matter how fucked up she got. Dr. G gets other people like that landing in her morgue – they’re in denial or have this weird-ass blind spot where no matter how wrong the situation is they just won’t do anything about it.

How does skin grow around a toilet seat anyway? I'm having a bit of a hard time imagining this.

I’d sort of worry about you if you had an easy time imagining that…

[The Yosemite Bear]

does that mean you worry about me now Broom?

sorry, amoung my mental disabilities, is the talent for figuring out how things could happen and what things would look like when they did....

[Broomstick]

does that mean you worry about me now Broom?

Well, yeah, like I worry about anyone with a functional difficulty - but you see, in your case we have some notion why you can do that. Or, in my case, some rather gruesome experiences/sights I've had can explain my ability to visualize some exceedingly nasty things. Not so bad when there's an explanation. I would expect docs and emergency personnel to be altogether over skilled at imagining such scenes, but why they could do that is obvious. OK, it's like I can easily visualize what happens to a person hit by a train because I've actually seen it, and my sister the doctor can do that because she's had to treat people run over by trains, but my other sister can't really imagine that because she has neither of those two experiences. My deceased sister, however, probably could have ruminated on such a story until she did come up with a vivid picture - but then, she wasn't normal. Normal people people of normal (non-gruesome) experience really do have a hard time imagining that.

[Zablorg]

does that mean you worry about me now Broom?

sorry, amoung my mental disabilities, is the talent for figuring out how things could happen and what things would look like when they did....

Could you explain how this be a'workin'? All I'm getting is an image of a woman with her butt sagging over the seat.

[Darth Wong]

Man this sucks.

Years of reading Megatokyo led me to believe that Japan was one of the last bastions of nerd culture, where a maladjusted, friendless, pawing, misogynist could actually get laid...now this.

Fuck! Why can i never roll a good Charisma?

What the fuck are you talking about? I would not want to live in a society where a "maladjusted, friendless, pawing, misogynist" could actually get laid. There is no reason for women to sleep with such a repugnant individual unless they are coerced or battered down to the point of reflexive submission. I want to live in a society where women have standards, because that means they are emancipated.

[The Yosemite Bear]

does that mean you worry about me now Broom?

sorry, amoung my mental disabilities, is the talent for figuring out how things could happen and what things would look like when they did....

Could you explain how this be a'workin'? All I'm getting is an image of a woman with her butt sagging over the seat.

ok, pressure opens a wound, the fluid seeps out, and then makes a seal with the surface, body filth and a other detris accomadated by a person with a nice thick layer of insulating fat, then begins to melt into the surface. a number of people with conditions like hemmoriods or physical activity problems like cushioned seats for the bathroom, those being made of "soft" materials are more suceepatble to this kind of bond forming. I could go on and on over the basics but I need to purge my ADHD / Aspergers overactive mind with other thoughts before dinner.

and to get away from an abusive step father, I used to hide in the adult section of the library as a kid. Usually reading in the true crime, and the mysteries, until I became quite adapt at it. Lets just say that If I hadn't had a mental breakdown in college I have become able to be a forensic technition / investigator.

my additional insight would probably say that this starts with a vinal toilet seat which is permiable and likely to create a seal with just sweat and fat. lets just say I'm not the best diabetic in my redneck family, but I am far from the worst, and I've seen far more than my fair share of contact sores.....

[Simplicius]

If you look around a bit, you can probably find pictures of fingers where the skin has grown completely over a ring that was never removed. It probably doesn't work in the same way as a tree slowly engulfing part of a fence, because fingers don't expand, but the look is about the same.

[Wyrm]

How did Toilet Woman not die from pressure ulcers before growing into her toilet? And that has got to be the most spic-and-span toilet seat in the universe, if she's not gangrenous...