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Future Sea Level Rise May Have Been Underestimated

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Water in Dams, Reservoirs Preventing Sea-Level Rise

National Geographic wrote: Dams and reservoirs have stored so much water over the past several decades that they have masked surging sea levels, a new study says.
But dam building has slowed, meaning sea levels could rise more quickly than researchers predicted in a 2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report.
Sea levels have been rising for decades, due mostly to global warming caused by greenhouse gases.
The oceans are on average about 6.3 inches (16 centimeters) higher now than in 1930, when they started a noticeable upward climb. Melting glaciers and ice caps, along with ocean warming—water expands as it heats up—are the main culprits behind the increase.
But the new study shows that reservoirs are also an important factor. Rather than adding to sea-level rise, however, they have counteracted it by storing more water on land.
Since 1930 the storage of water has prevented a total of about 1.2 inches (3 centimeters) of sea-level rise.
Without dams, sea levels would have risen 30 percent more than they already have, according to research led by Benjamin Chao of National Central University in Taiwan.
Chao and colleagues report their findings in tomorrow's issue of the journal Science.


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The latest IPCC report on climate change did not factor in the water stored in reservoirs when examining the causes of sea-level rise, Chao said.
"The reason [this was left out] is the big uncertainty and incompleteness of earlier estimates," he said. So Chao and colleagues set out to make a better estimate.
The researchers tallied up the water stored behind nearly 30,000 dams built worldwide since 1900.
Dam building took off in the 1950s and reached a peak in the 1970s. Today few dams are being built and the amount of water being stored in reservoirs is leveling off.
However some megadams, such as China's Three Gorges Dam and Malaysia's Bakun Dam, have been recently built.

The study estimates that human-made reservoirs worldwide store about 2,600 cubic miles (10,800 cubic kilometers) of water—nearly as much as is found in Lake Superior, one of the world's largest lakes.
Water stored in a multitude of smaller reservoirs also adds up, the researchers said. Lots of water also soaks into the ground underneath reservoirs, adding to the amount of water locked up on land.


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Vivien Gornitz, of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York City, was not involved in the research.
"The study provides the latest, more accurate estimate of water impoundment by reservoirs," she said.
Dork Sahagian, of Lehigh University in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, said "we've fooled our own measurements."
A spate of dam building began at about the same time scientists began accurately measuring sea-level rise, he pointed out.
Sahagian also said that the new study may underestimate the effect of reservoirs. It's hard to gauge the amount of water stored in and underneath innumerable small reservoirs, but these figures could be larger than the estimates used in the new study, he said.
"It looks like we will not continue building dams at the same rate, so we will not mask [sea-level rise] anymore," Sahagian said.
In that case "the rate of sea-level rise could double just on account of our stopping building dams."

Mason Inman
for National Geographic News
March 13, 2008
The upshot is flooding could be a lot worse than predicted. Is London's fancy mechanical dike tall enough now or will it need to be rebuilt?

Maybe this will encourage more hydro electric dams in developing countries. Does this mean I'm not allowed to bitch about Aswan High anymore?
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I don't see how this could matter, because its not as if the dams and reservoirs are suddenly going to empty all at once. Just because we aren't building new dams doesn't mean the ones we have will stop working, and I don't see the article explaining WHY the discounting will affect estimated rates.
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So basically we need to build more dams… which will also supply emissions free hydropower at the cost of killing off fish. Sounds good to me.
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Obviously we should be building more hydroelectric dams. It'll reduce our oil consumption and retard sea level rise at the same time. Two birds with one stone!

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Junghalli wrote:Waits for Greenies to start howling about river ecosystems.
I think they already have......
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:I don't see how this could matter, because its not as if the dams and reservoirs are suddenly going to empty all at once. Just because we aren't building new dams doesn't mean the ones we have will stop working, and I don't see the article explaining WHY the discounting will affect estimated rates.
I believe the reasoning is as follows: In the previous century, as ice melted and more liquid water entered the environment, we were building lots of dams, creating lots of reservoirs, so some of that extra water was trapped before it could reach the seas. Right now we aren't building lots of dams, so water that is coming in now isn't finding new reservoirs to keep it out of the seas. That means that the seas will likely rise at a faster rate than they did in the previous century. It has nothing to do with the water that is already there, but with new water from the melting ice caps.
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:I don't see how this could matter, because its not as if the dams and reservoirs are suddenly going to empty all at once. Just because we aren't building new dams doesn't mean the ones we have will stop working, and I don't see the article explaining WHY the discounting will affect estimated rates.
I believe the reasoning is as follows: In the previous century, as ice melted and more liquid water entered the environment, we were building lots of dams, creating lots of reservoirs, so some of that extra water was trapped before it could reach the seas. Right now we aren't building lots of dams, so water that is coming in now isn't finding new reservoirs to keep it out of the seas. That means that the seas will likely rise at a faster rate than they did in the previous century. It has nothing to do with the water that is already there, but with new water from the melting ice caps.
Glacial melt from the continents is pretty inconsequential, and melt from the caps wouldn't have been captured in reservoirs anyway. I've shown this article to two other hydrologists in my office, none of us have ANY CLUE what the article is trying to say. Unless they think icecap melt = more rain or something.
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Johonebesus wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:I don't see how this could matter, because its not as if the dams and reservoirs are suddenly going to empty all at once. Just because we aren't building new dams doesn't mean the ones we have will stop working, and I don't see the article explaining WHY the discounting will affect estimated rates.
I believe the reasoning is as follows: In the previous century, as ice melted and more liquid water entered the environment, we were building lots of dams, creating lots of reservoirs, so some of that extra water was trapped before it could reach the seas. Right now we aren't building lots of dams, so water that is coming in now isn't finding new reservoirs to keep it out of the seas. That means that the seas will likely rise at a faster rate than they did in the previous century. It has nothing to do with the water that is already there, but with new water from the melting ice caps.
Glacial melt from the continents is pretty inconsequential, and melt from the caps wouldn't have been captured in reservoirs anyway. I've shown this article to two other hydrologists in my office, none of us have ANY CLUE what the article is trying to say. Unless they think icecap melt = more rain or something.
I don't understand what's so confusing. Whatever the source, melting ice, disrupted water tables due to construction, deforestation, etc., presumably the seas are rising primarily because more liquid water is entering the environment. The article claims that some of that water has previously been diverted into reservoirs, slowing the rise of sea levels, and that the lack of new dam construction means that new water won't be diverted. If we hadn't built so many dams, sea levels today would be higher today, so estimates based on the past century of rise without taking this into account may be too optimistic.

Let's say you want to measure how fast a tub fills. You take two tubs the same size and turn the water, however you occasionally put a cup under one of the taps, so that much water doesn't go into the first tub. The second tub you let fill without capturing any of the water. Wouldn't the second tub fill faster than the first?
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Sea Skimmer wrote:So basically we need to build more dams… which will also supply emissions free hydropower at the cost of killing off fish. Sounds good to me.
And hydrosolar projects - sea water flowing into below sea level basins near coasts, with the flow being used to generate electricity. Sure, that water is all evaporating (which is where the solar of the hydrosolar comes in), but those new salty lakes would at least be reservoirs of water. And hey, that water has to come back down somewhere as rain. Those places are all deserts anyway.

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Here's a stupid question--has anyone ever considered building an artificial river to divert some water, and having it lead directly to a dam and powerplant, before spilling back out in a different location (or being pumped into a city's water supply) or something similar? It seems like a pretty obvious sort of solution. You'd end up making a big stinking mess out of a given area of previously dry land, but why couldn't you just make an entirely artificial waterway for the purpose of generating power?
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Covenant wrote:Here's a stupid question--has anyone ever considered building an artificial river to divert some water, and having it lead directly to a dam and powerplant, before spilling back out in a different location (or being pumped into a city's water supply) or something similar? It seems like a pretty obvious sort of solution. You'd end up making a big stinking mess out of a given area of previously dry land, but why couldn't you just make an entirely artificial waterway for the purpose of generating power?
It's done all the time, but limited by the fact that rivers already tend to take the best route naturally.
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Covenant wrote:Here's a stupid question--has anyone ever considered building an artificial river to divert some water, and having it lead directly to a dam and powerplant, before spilling back out in a different location (or being pumped into a city's water supply) or something similar?
Yup, see James Bay Project, it's currently the largest hydroelectric complex in the world, at least until Three Gorges gets a few more generators installed. Canals were blasted and dikes & dams built to divert a crapload of water to the main generating stations.
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There have also been plans to build canals to bring sea water into inland below-sea-level areas for reasons other than electrical generation. Examples are sea-level canals to the Salton Sea from the Gulf of California and to the Lake Eyre basin from the ocean.
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Wonder how long before we see places like Holland which is already below see level become inclosed in domes or something similar.
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dragon wrote:Wonder how long before we see places like Holland which is already below see level become inclosed in domes or something similar.
Domes? 300-500 years. Higher seawalls? Much less.
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Historically, there have been periods of global warming and cooling.
Not trying to attribute it to modern global warming but has anyone done a study of warming and cooling periods since the last glacial period?

Just kind of curious what effects it may have had historically?
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dragon wrote:Wonder how long before we see places like Holland which is already below see level become inclosed in domes or something similar.
This is completely immature, but I really do want to live in a domed city. It's just the "gee-whiz" quality of it, I think.
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