Personality types and debating

[Cal Wright]

INTP

For whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.

[jaeger115]

ESTJ.

Whatever.

[The Dark]

INTP
56/11/1/33.

Last time I took the test (from Keirsey's old website), I was an INFP on the borderline. I'd say I'm right on the F/T edge, but you guys are slowly pushing me over to the T side. For my social life I'm still more of an F.

[Master of Ossus]

INTJ, no surprises here.

[Shinova]

INFP


Introverted 89%

Intuitive 22%

Feeling 33%

Perceiving 44%


-Very expressed introvert
-slightly expressed intuitive personality
-moderately expressed feeling personality
-moderately expressed perceiving personality


Title : Healer idealist??

[Shinova]

Second test (that second link)



INFP
"The Searcher"


"I" stands for Introversion.

An attitude in which interest, value and meaning are attached primarily to internal objects. External matters are habitually not valued or are difficult for the introvert. Introversion is the opposite of Extroversion.

"N" stands for Intuition.

One of the Jung's four psychic functions (Thinking, Feeling, Sensation, and Intuition). For Jung, Intuition means strictly that the internal and external world are perceived through the unconscious. Intuitive types focus on the future, with a view toward patterns & possibilities.

"F" stands for Feeling.

One of the Jung's four psychic functions (Thinking, Feeling, Sensation, and Intuition). In Jung's system, Feeling means the ability to make evaluations and judgments based on values. Jung said that the Feeling function is essential for determining whether or not something is agreeable or not agreeable, likable or not likable, important or not important. In this case, Feeling is not to be confused with emotions or affect, which cut across all four functions. The Feeling function is the opposite of the Thinking function, which is the ability to make evaluations and judgments based on logical categories and ideas.

"P" stands for Perception.

The way in which raw data or information about the outer or inner world is made known to consciousness. Jung called it an "irrational" function in the sense that Perception is unfiltered. People who have stronger Perception than Judgment are people for whom "the journey is more important than the destination." Perception is open-ended, a never-ending stream of insights, experiences, and possibilities. Perceptions come through the five senses (Sensation), and also through the unconscious itself (Intuition). Both are ways of taking in experiences about the outer and inner world.

[Joe]

ISTJ, no surprise. What I am usually.

LOL, are there any non-introverts on this board?

[Spanky The Dolphin]

ISTP
"The Craftsperson"


"I" stands for Introversion.

An attitude in which interest, value and meaning are attached primarily to internal objects. External matters are habitually not valued or are difficult for the introvert. Introversion is the opposite of Extroversion.
"S" stands for Sensation.

One of Jung's four psychic functions (Thinking, Feeling, Sensation, and Intuition). In Jung's system, Sensation means that the internal and external world are perceived through the five senses. Sensory types focus on the present and on concrete information gained from the physical senses.

"T" stands for Thinking.

One of Jung's four psychic functions (Thinking, Feeling, Sensation, and Intuition). Thinking suggests logical and rational thought processes. It is the ability to make evaluations and judgements based on logical categories and ideas. The Thinking function is the opposite of the Feeling function, which is the ability to make evaluations and judgements based on values.

"P" stands for Perception.

The way in which raw data or information about the outer or inner world is made known to consciousness. Jung called it an "irrational" function in the sense that perception is unfiltered. People who have stronger Perception than Judgement are people for whom "the journey is more important than the destination." Perception is open-ended, a never-ending stream of insights, experiences, and possibilities. Perceptions come through the five senses (Sensation), and yet also through the unconscious itself (Intuition). Both are ways of taking in experiences about the outer and inner world.

[Pcm979]

ISTJ, no surprise. What I am usually.

LOL, are there any non-introverts on this board?

jaeger115.

[Drewcifer]

Yes, we are quite the "IN" crowd
As one of the resident amatuer psychology enthusiasts, I've noticed that although there is a fairly diverse crowd of regulars here, there is one idea of mutual agreement: "don't be a dumbass"

Me: INTP ("The Conceiver") and INFP (quite moderately expressed about each quality)

No argument there...

[weemadando]

ISTJ, no surprise. What I am usually.

LOL, are there any non-introverts on this board?

jaeger115.
:P

And me.

[Zaia]

I took this in a psych class a few years ago (the full, written, 30580312498 page version) and got INFP, and just retook it now and got ENFJ ("The Teacher"). I think both are me, really. One's the quieter side (who I used to be all the time), and one's the performing side (*grin*). Together they make ME, otherwise known as PFENNFIJ!

Sorry...it's late......I'm getting punchy....

And for those of you who've taken the Enneagram test (which I also took in that psych class--all 25 pages of it or whatever), I'm a 4, the artist/romantic.

Errr....*looks at first link* E.T. was an INFP? *scratches head* Um, ok.

[unigolyn]

INTJ.

A much more entertaining version of the test is at www.thespark.com. I'm still planning a lawsuit after they declared me 50% gay in the gay test. That's what you get for preferring a blue bedroom to a white one.

[Keevan_Colton]

INTP
Introverted 11%
Intuitive 56%
Thinking 33%
Perceiving 11%

I'm an architect....apparently.

[Cpt_Frank]

ENTP

[Darth Wong]

Since I started this thread, I should point out that I'm an ENTJ.

[David]

INFJ
"The Knight"


"I" stands for Introversion.

An attitude in which interest, value and meaning are attached primarily to internal objects. External matters are habitually not valued or difficult for the introvert. Introversion is the opposite of Extroversion.

"N" stands for Intuition.

One of Jung's four psychic functions (Thinking, Feeling, Sensation, and Intuition). In Jung's system, Intuition means that the internal and external world are perceived through the unconscious. Intuitive types focus on the future, with a view toward patterns & possibilities.
"F" stands for Feeling.

One of Jung's four psychic functions (Thinking, Feeling, Sensation, and Intuition). According to Jung, Feeling means the ability to make evaluations and judgments based on values. Jung said that the Feeling function is essential for determining whether or not something is agreeable or not agreeable, likable or not likable, important or not important. In this case, Feeling is not to be confused with emotions or affect, which cut across all four functions. The Feeling function is the opposite of the Thinking function, which is the ability to make evaluations and judgments based on logical categories and ideas.

"J" stands for Judging.

Technically, Judging is an attitude, a way of making decisions based on various facts. Jung called it a "rational" function in the sense that it compares and contrasts various options. In the case of a Thinking-based Judgment, decisions are based upon the logic of a situation. In the case of a Feeling-based Judgement, decisions are based on the relative values in a situation. People with strong tendencies towards Judgement tend to like for things to be planned and organized.

[SWPIGWANG]

INTP
"The Conceiver"


"I" stands for Introversion.

An attitude in which interest, value and meaning are attached primarily to internal objects. External matters are habitually not valued or are difficult for the introvert. Introversion is the opposite of Extroversion.
"N" stands for Intuition.

One of Jung's four psychic functions (Thinking, Feeling, Sensation, and Intuition). In Jung's system, Intuition means that the internal and external world are perceived through the unconscious. Intuitive types focus on the future, with a view toward patterns & possibilities.

"T" stands for Thinking.

One of Jung's four psychic functions (Thinking, Feeling, Sensation, and Intuition). According to Jung, Thinking suggests logical and rational thought processes. It is the ability to make evaluations and judgments based on logical categories and ideas. The Thinking function is the opposite of the Feeling function, which is the ability to make evaluations and judgements based on values.

"P" stands for Perception.

The way in which raw data or information about the outer or inner world is made known to consciousness. Jung called it an "irrational" function in the sense that perception is unfiltered. People who have stronger Perception than Judgment are people for whom "the journey is more important than the destination." Perception is open-ended, a never-ending stream of insights, experiences, and possibilities. Perceptions come through the five senses (Sensation), and yet also through the unconscious itself (Intuition). Both are ways of taking in experiences about the outer and inner world.

I'm so boring NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[SWPIGWANG]

Your Type is
INTP
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Perceiving
78% 44% 1% 44%

again......

[Arthur_Tuxedo]

Your Type is
ENTJ

Extroverted
Intuitive
Thinking
Judging

Strength of the preferences %

56
22
44
1

Isn't it strange how many of the active board participants are introverts while people like me who only chime in occasionally tend to be extroverts? It's like everything's assed-backwards in cyberspace.

[Alex Moon]

Introverted Sensing Thinking Perceiving

by Marina Margaret Heiss
Profile: ISTP
Revision: 2.0
Date of Revision: 7 Dec 99



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Like their fellow SPs, ISTPs are fundamentally Performers (note the capital 'P' ), but as Ts their areas of interest tend to be mechanical rather than artistic like those of ISFPs, and unlike most ESPs they do not present an impression of constant activity. On the contrary, they lie dormant, saving their energy until a project or an adventure worthy of their time comes along--and then they launch themselves at it. The apparently frenzied state that inevitably ensues is actually much more controlled than it appears--ISTPs always seem to know what they're doing when it comes to physical or mechanical obstacles--but the whole chain of events presents a confusing and paradoxical picture to an outsider.
ISTPs are equally difficult to understand in their need for personal space, which in turn has an impact on their relationships with others. They need to be able to "spread out"--both physically and psychologically--which generally implies encroaching to some degree on others, especially if they decide that something of someone else's is going to become their next project. (They are generally quite comfortable, however, with being treated the same way they treat others--at least in this respect.) But because they need such a lot of flexibility to be as spontaneous as they feel they must be, they tend to become as inflexible as the most rigid J when someone seems to be threatening their lifestyle (although they usually respond with a classic SP rage which is yet another vivid contrast to their "dormant," impassive, detached mode). These territorial considerations are usually critical in relationships with ISTPs; communication also tends to be a key issue, since they generally express themselves non-verbally. When they do actually verbalize, ISTPs are masters of the one-liner, often showing flashes of humor in the most tense situations; this can result in their being seen as thick-skinned or tasteless.

Like most SPs, ISTPs may have trouble with rote and abstract classroom learning, which tend not to be good measures of their actual intelligence. They tend, sometimes with good reason, to be highly skeptical of its practical value, and often gravitate towards classes in industrial arts; part-time vocational/ technical programs can be useful to even the college-bound ISTP. In terms of careers, mechanics and any of the skilled trades are traditional choices, and those ISTPs with strong numerical as well mechanical gifts tend to do extremely well in most areas of engineering. Working as paramedics or firefighters can fulfill the ISTP need to live on the edge; they are at their best in a crisis, where their natural disregard for rules and authority structures allows them to focus on and tackle the emergency at hand in the most effective way.

ISTPs with more sedate careers usually take on high-risk avocations like racing, skydiving, and motorcycling. While aware of the dangers involved, they are so in touch with the physical world that they know they can get away with much smaller safety margins than other types.

Famous ISTPs:
(I have to give Joe Butt credit for most of the following)
Charles Bronson
Tom Cruise
James Dean
Clint Eastwood
U.S. Presidents:
Zachary Taylor
Burt Reynolds
Keith Richards
Charlie Yeager
Frank Zappa

Fictional:
Hedda Gabler in Ibsen's play of the same name
John Miller in the movie American Grafitti
Archibald "Harry" Tuttle in the movie Brazil

[InnerBrat]

Just in case anyone still cares,

humanmetrics says I'm ENFP - extraverted, inuitive feeling perceiving
iVillage reckons I'm ENTP 'The Tinkerer'
and the Spark calls me DEAF - "The Performer" - Dominant, Extravert, Abstract Feeler.

guess the differences depend on whether it's a work situation (Using my brain) or a personal situation (Thinking with my metaphorical heart)

[Thunderfire]

Got ENTJ there.

[Kelly Antilles]

Ok... this is oddly scary.

ISFJ

The primary desire of the Protector Guardian [ISFJ] is to be of service to others, but here “service” means not so much furnishing others with the necessities of life (the ESFJ Provider’s concern), as guarding others against life’s pitfalls and perils, that is, seeing to their safety and security. There is a large proportion of Protectors in the population, perhaps as much as ten percent. And a good thing, because they are steadfast in their protecting, and seem fulfilled in the degree they can insure the safekeeping of those in their family, their circle of friends, or their place of business.

Protectors find great satisfaction in assisting the downtrodden and can deal with disability and neediness in others better than any other type. They go about their task of caretaking modestly, unassumingly, and because of this their efforts are not sometimes fully appreciated. They are not as outgoing and talkative as the Providers [ESFJs], except with close friends and relatives. With these they can chat tirelessly about the ups and downs in their lives, moving (like all the Guardians) from topic to topic as they talk over their everyday concerns. However, their shyness with strangers is often misjudged as stiffness, even coldness, when in truth these Protectors are warm-hearted and sympathetic, giving happily of themselves to those in need.

Their quietness ought really to be seen as an expression, not of coldness, but of their sincerity and seriousness of purpose. Like all the Guardians, ISFJs have a highly developed puritan work ethic, which tells them that work is good, and that play must be earned-if indulged in at all. The least hedonic of all types, Protectors are willing to work long, long hours doing all the thankless jobs the other types seem content to ignore. Thoroughness and frugality are also virtues for Protectors. When they undertake a task, they will complete it if at all humanly possible; and they know the value of material resources and abhor the squandering or misuse of these resources. Protectors are quite content to work alone; indeed, they may experience some discomfort when placed in positions of authority, and may try to do everything themselves rather than insist that others do their jobs.

With their extraordinary commitment to security, and with their unusual talent for executing routines, Protectors do well in many careers that have to do with conservation: curators, private secretaries, librarians, middle-managers, police officers, and especially general medical practitioners. To be sure, the hospital is a natural haven for them; it is home to the family doctor, preserver of life and limb, and to the registered nurse, or licensed practical nurse, truly the angels of mercy. The insurance industry is also a good fit for ISFJs. To save, to put something aside against an unpredictable future, to prepare for emergencies—these are important actions to Protectors, who as insurance agents want to see their clients in good hands, sheltered and protected.

[President George Bush, Protector Guardian]

The actor Jimmy Stewart and Mother Teresa are examples of Protector Guardian style.

and

Profile: ISFJ
Revision: 2.01
Date of Revision: 3 Dec 2002
ISFJs are characterized above all by their desire to serve others, their "need to be needed." In extreme cases, this need is so strong that standard give-and-take relationships are deeply unsatisfying to them; however, most ISFJs find more than enough with which to occupy themselves within the framework of a normal life. (Since ISFJs, like all SJs, are very much bound by the prevailing social conventions, their form of "service" is likely to exclude any elements of moral or political controversy; they specialize in the local, the personal, and the practical.)

ISFJs are often unappreciated, at work, home, and play. Ironically, because they prove over and over that they can be relied on for their loyalty and unstinting, high-quality work, those around them often take them for granted--even take advantage of them. Admittedly, the problem is sometimes aggravated by the ISFJs themselves; for instance, they are notoriously bad at delegating ("If you want it done right, do it yourself"). And although they're hurt by being treated like doormats, they are often unwilling to toot their own horns about their accomplishments because they feel that although they deserve more credit than they're getting, it's somehow wrong to want any sort of reward for doing work (which is supposed to be a virtue in itself). (And as low-profile Is, their actions don't call attention to themselves as with charismatic Es.) Because of all of this, ISFJs are often overworked, and as a result may suffer from psychosomatic illnesses.

In the workplace, ISFJs are methodical and accurate workers, often with very good memories and unexpected analytic abilities; they are also good with people in small-group or one-on-one situations because of their patient and genuinely sympathetic approach to dealing with others. ISFJs make pleasant and reliable co-workers and exemplary employees, but tend to be harried and uncomfortable in supervisory roles. They are capable of forming strong loyalties, but these are personal rather than institutional loyalties; if someone they've bonded with in this way leaves the company, the ISFJ will leave with them, if given the option. Traditional careers for an ISFJ include: teaching, social work, most religious work, nursing, medicine (general practice only), clerical and and secretarial work of any kind, and some kinds of administrative careers.

While their work ethic is high on the ISFJ priority list, their families are the centers of their lives. ISFJs are extremely warm and demonstrative within the family circle--and often possessive of their loved ones, as well. When these include Es who want to socialize with the rest of the world, or self-contained ITs, the ISFJ must learn to adjust to these behaviors and not interpret them as rejection. Being SJs, they place a strong emphasis on conventional behavior (although, unlike STJs, they are usually as concerned with being "nice" as with strict propriety); if any of their nearest and dearest depart from the straight-and-narrow, it causes the ISFJ major embarrassment: the closer the relationship and the more public the act, the more intense the embarrassment (a fact which many of their teenage children take gleeful advantage of). Over time, however, ISFJs usually mellow, and learn to regard the culprits as harmless eccentrics . Needless to say, ISFJs take infinite trouble over meals, gifts, celebrations, etc., for their loved ones--although strong Js may tend to focus more on what the recipient should want rather than what they do want.

Like most Is, ISFJs have a few, close friends. They are extremely loyal to these, and are ready to provide emotional and practical support at a moment's notice. (However, like most Fs they hate confrontation; if you get into a fight, don't expect them to jump in after you. You can count on them, however, run and get the nearest authority figure.) Unlike with EPs, the older the friendship is, the more an ISFJ will value it. One ISFJ trait that is easily misunderstood by those who haven't known them long is that they are often unable to either hide or articulate any distress they may be feeling. For instance, an ISFJ child may be reproved for "sulking," the actual cause of which is a combination of physical illness plus misguided "good manners." An adult ISFJ may drive a (later ashamed) friend or SO into a fit of temper over the ISFJ's unexplained moodiness, only afterwards to explain about a death in the family they "didn't want to burden anyone with." Those close to ISFJs should learn to watch for the warning signs in these situations and take the initiative themselves to uncover the problem.
Functional Analysis

by Joe Butt
Introverted Sensing
As for ISTJs, the dominant Si is oriented toward the world of forms, essences, generics. Again, "for both of the IS_J types, the sense of propriety comes from the clear definition of these internal forms. ... A 'proper' chair has four legs," etc. (Jung saw IS as something of an oxymoron: sensing, which is a perceiving function, focused inward and thus away from that which is perceived (the "object"). In this light, he described this sensing as something removed from reality, full of archetypes/mythical figures/hobgoblins; sensing of one's own set of forms.)

Extraverted Feeling
A kind of "regression toward the mean" provided by the Fe auxiliary function serves to socialize the expression of these forms. I suppose it's the auxiliary nature of this Feeling, coupled with the balancing effect of {detachment from the internal idiosyncratic view of free-floating data perceptions} that makes ISFJs tentative, conservative, and reticent to boldly state the rights and wrongs in the relational world. (Loosely translated, ISFJs like to keep their perceptions to themselves, and aren't sure enough that what they "see" as Introverted Sensors has any relevance to the outside world. Thus the perception, based on unworldly data, may not be true. The obedient Extraverted Feeling function must therefore refrain from strong statements expressing these opinions.)

Introverted Thinking
Introverted Thinking is turned inward and is largely invisible. It is only with great difficulty, if at all, that the ISFJ could willingly commit anyone to their doom. Perhaps this explains why ISFJs are loyal to the end; there is no sense of purely objective (i.e., impersonal) judgement of anyone but themselves (and that only by their own standards). Here is this type's achilles heel that makes many of them so vulnerable to the scoundrels and ne'er-do-wells who often use and abuse them.

Extraverted iNtuition
ISFJs are easily undone by Extraverted iNtuition, their inferior function. Believing in the fantastic, and disbelieving the technologically extant, are errors that my guide the gullible (or unfoundedly sceptical) ISFJ off a precipice of mis-conclusion. (One of our co-workers' mothers adamantly refused to believe that Dave Letterman's mom was actually at the olympics in Norway talking with the athletes and handing out hams! She suspected technological trickery.)

This childlike Ne is, however, the likely source (coupled with fun-loving Extraverted Feeling) of the practical joking, punning and (usually harmless) impishness of some ISFJs.

Famous ISFJs:
Louisa May Alcott
Alfred, Lord Tennyson
Queen Elizabeth II of England
Robert E. Lee
Queen Mary I ("Bloody Mary") of England

Fictional:
Bianca in Taming of the Shrew
David Copperfield
Hero in Much Ado About Nothing
Melanie in Gone With The Wind
Ophelia in Hamlet
Dr. John H. Watson, M.D. (Sherlock Holmes' faithful sidekick)
U.S. Presidents:

* William Howard Taft

Kristi Yamaguchi, US Olympic figure skater

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