Jedi vs Mando Video Discussion Thread!

[Darth Hoth]

Hey Poe, this may be too late, but perhaps you should make it a female Jedi. Strike a blow against her sexist claims.

This Padawan think that the Jedi model on the left already looks female, in some weird way...

[DocHorror]

While I have only skimmed this thread (the other one about her latest novel) & not really paid much attention to Karen Traviss's writings, I remember a time when Boba Fett & the Mandalorians were cool. What happened? Too much lame infomation?

[Molyneux]

Kit "I blew up something that could take out Venators in a single shot, with one fucking hit" Fisto, you mean? Kit "Savior of Mon Calamari" Fisto? Kit "Yes, I WAS Aayla Secura's 'good friend'" Fisto?

EU stuff I guess? I'm just going by the movie exploits of our favorite hentai tentacle demon here.

There was an episode of the Clone Wars cartoon devoted to the green-skinned wonder's defense of Mon Calamari. It showcased a unique Force ability he developed, only usable underwater, best described as "You know that Rasengan thing that annoying blond ninja has? Yeah? Well, like that...but...bigger. WAY bigger."

The sea-serpent-mounted Mon Cal cavalry was a bit strange, but overall a fun episode to watch. Not as much sheer badassery as the episode set on Dantooine, but...well...what do you expect?

Fisto's relationship with Aayla Secura was in the comics, I believe; it ended up coming to nothing, though, as they both held their (idiotic) Jedi vows too strongly.

Say what you like about his death in RotS, but if he'd fought Palpatine underwater I think it would have gone a wee bit differently. Then again, the same could be said of Aquaman vs. Doomsday...



Oh, and the first picture does look distinctly feminine - I think it's the eyebrows and the shape of the face, especially around the cheekbones.

[Lord Poe]

Ugh...

Yes that is indeed "Quinlan Vos". I have no idea who he is, so I guess he appeared in a comic? Ok, back to the drawing board. I'll try a really generic Jedi, or Old Luke Skywalker, or even friggin' Darth Maul from the Visionaries comic, but I'll come up with an alternative.

[Zwinmar]

just an idea, but what about the models from the Kotor series?

[Lord_Xerxes]

Considering Obi-Wan was cpaable of fighting both Jango AND Grievous (metal-armoured enemies) unarmed and he's nowhere near the warrior Windu is, I dont find most of his Clone Wars feats unreasonable. (some of it was exceptionalyl over the top, though, unless he changed signficantly in his time between Shatterpoint and the fight on Dantooine. Nevermind the battle on Coruscant.

BTW, I was leafing through my copies of the AOTC and ROTS Visual Dictionaries, and I came across the bit where Clone trooper armour was noted to be MORE durable than mandalorian shocktrooper armour (specifically, it could walk through shield barriers that would cremate a shocktrooper.)

Given that, the supposedly "mandalorian iron" armoured shocktroopers. whoc an resist lightsabers (rated in the triple digit megawatt sustained output as per TPM) would mean that clonetrooper armour possesses at least similar durability (triple digit megawatt resilience.) Blasters would then, by extension, exert similar firepower, since they can BREACH that armour (note the distinction between power and energy - blaster bolts deliver their energy faster than lightsabedrs, so the energy of a blaster bolt
would be less than a lightsaber, whcih is a "sustained output" weapon.

It also pretty much dispels the idea that Mandalorians possessed any sorrt of super-badass armour, given tht your average Republican (and later Imperial ) trooper was at least as well protected.

On the other hand, given that we know in ROTS that lightsabers can breach clone armour, one could also just call bullshit on Traviss' nonsense based on the above, and that Mandalorian iron cannot be that strong.

Either way is an amusing refutation of some of the Mandalorian nonsense currently being bandied about,.

Nice find Connor! Can you quote/post it in the Revelation discussion so we can have all the counterpoints to her absurdities in one relevant location?

[TheFeniX]

Ugh...

Yes that is indeed "Quinlan Vos". I have no idea who he is, so I guess he appeared in a comic? Ok, back to the drawing board. I'll try a really generic Jedi, or Old Luke Skywalker, or even friggin' Darth Maul from the Visionaries comic, but I'll come up with an alternative.

Academy has a pretty decent stock selection. With a solid amount of editing to the .skin files, you can even hammer out Jaden models that aren't customizable. I don't know how well that would translate to "The Movies" though. I have no experience with it.

[Lord Poe]

Academy has a pretty decent stock selection. With a solid amount of editing to the .skin files, you can even hammer out Jaden models that aren't customizable. I don't know how well that would translate to "The Movies" though. I have no experience with it.

The one thing that sucks about "The Movies" is, the face texture is a wrap-around that mirrors one side of the face to the other. And you only a limited amount of "hair-styles".

[TheFeniX]

The one thing that sucks about "The Movies" is, the face texture is a wrap-around that mirrors one side of the face to the other. And you only a limited amount of "hair-styles".

Meh, I would assume it cuts down on texture loading, or maybe it's just for ease of learning.

Surely they have some stock type of pony-tail haircut al la young Obi-Wan or Anakin. You couldn't really go wrong there when trying to show that the character is a Padawan.

Other than that, coming up with a pasty-faced jedi shouldn't be anything too horrific. If you want, send me a sample of a character file from "The Movies." If I can see how the texture wrapping goes, I might be able to cobble something together that could work for both. That is if you've decided against an "Older Luke" model. I would assume Luke's haircut and face is pretty standard.

[Elfdart]

So No Mandos having a party when the doors open and Vader walks in asking them about 'offing weak Jedi' and if he qualified?

It would be amusing to see Vader's reaction when he finds out Boba Fett's been getting the credit for all the Jedi the Sith Lord killed.

Like the scene in True Lies when Bill Paxton, pretending to be Secret Agent Man (actually a car dealer), starts telling Jamie Lee Curtis about how he shot the terrorists at the hotel when it was actually Ahnuld (who is listening in on a wiretap):

Gib: The guy is a used car salesman! This just keeps getting better and better!
[Harry gives him a dirty look]
Gib: I'm sorry, Harry, I know this is hard for you. But you gotta admit if this was me you'd be laughing your ass off!

You could have Boba Fett trying to score a chick with his story of how he killed Obi-Wan Kenobi, with Vader doing a slow burn while eavesdropping.

[irishmick79]

Slap a big confederate flag on the chest of that mandalorian, write "Mandalore" in big letters across it and you've got something.

Maybe set it in some dive of a Mandelorian bar. A jedi walks in, has a meal and a drink, tips the waitress (who's wearing a skimpy outfit and a mandelorian helmet) and prepares to leave. A drunken mando gets all belligerent and insists the Jedi didn't leave a tip. The other mandos rally around the 'injustice', the Jedi is looking at them thinking, "WTF is with these assholes?", the waitress is desperately trying to avert the coming trouble, and it starts looking grim.

Somebody shouts, "Whoooo weeee, Mandelooorians! We gonna preeepahre ourselves fur some glaohry!" banjo music kicks in, stuff starts exploding, and mandos start to die.

And once the Jedi has finished plowing through them, he takes his tip back off the table. Jawas start picking over the remnants, and one of them mutters to his buddy...."wow, this stuff is shit. We can't even unload this crap on Tatooine farmhands!"

[Elfdart]

Have the Mandalorean defeat the Jedi, but only because the clone has a Kiwi accent and more apostraphes in his name.

Jedi tries Force Push, but it fails...

JEDI: The Force...

...is

...too

...weak!

WA'N'K'D' BO'NEA' N': Ha! Your powers with the Force are nothing compared to the SIX apostraphes in my first name! Now, feel the full power of my KIWI ACCENT! B'WAH'AHA'HAH'AHAAA'AA'AA'A'A!

[Vympel]

Ugh...

Yes that is indeed "Quinlan Vos". I have no idea who he is, so I guess he appeared in a comic? Ok, back to the drawing board. I'll try a really generic Jedi, or Old Luke Skywalker, or even friggin' Darth Maul from the Visionaries comic, but I'll come up with an alternative.

I thought you were deliberately going for Quinlan Vos. He's a pretty badass Dark Horse comic character (primarily) - he was first seen in TPM (when he was just a nameless extra on Tatooine, but now is Quinlan Vos) - and a scene was shot in RotS where he was blown off a Juggernaut tank by another one, but it was ultimately cut (it's retained in the RotS comic, however) - GL quite likes him IIRC.

[Lord Poe]

I thought you were deliberately going for Quinlan Vos. He's a pretty badass Dark Horse comic character (primarily) - he was first seen in TPM (when he was just a nameless extra on Tatooine, but now is Quinlan Vos) - and a scene was shot in RotS where he was blown off a Juggernaut tank by another one, but it was ultimately cut (it's retained in the RotS comic, however) - GL quite likes him IIRC.

Yeah, I had no idea who he was. Frankly, I couldn't name any of the Jedi in the prequels beyond the main ones.

I've settled on old Luke Skywalker though. That's where the story I'm trying to piece together is pointing. I'm going to tweak his Jedi costume a bit to make it look more like Obi_Wan's in ROTS.

[wjs7744]

...he was first seen in TPM...

WTF? I didn't know there were any other Jedi on Tatooine during TPM.

[Karmic Knight]

...he was first seen in TPM...

WTF? I didn't know there were any other Jedi on Tatooine during TPM.

According To Wookieepedia he was indeed.

[Havok]

...he was first seen in TPM...

WTF? I didn't know there were any other Jedi on Tatooine during TPM.

You know how the EU likes to take EVERY single background character from the movies and make him into a galactic hero?

Um... yeah.

[Lord Poe]

Yeah, its going to be old Luke:



His "Jedi Academy" stuntman next to him won't be seen full face, so the resemblance won't be too much of a problem!

Unfortunately, I've learned that I'll have to "film" every Mando seperate, which is going to take a bit longer.

[Lord Poe]

Success!



After long friggin' hours of trial and error, I figured out how to get different Mandos into the game. This will save a LOT of time.

BTW, I made a "slimmer" Fett that matches the guy in the movies. It always looked to me that Fett cobbled his armor together from old pieces he found. These new guys made new armor in the "spirit" of the old Mandos:



Thoughts?

[CaptainChewbacca]

That's quite a mandalorian rainbow coalition you've got there.

[Academia Nut]

The Boba Fett in the second picture looks a little anemic for some reason. And you know, I can almost see Boba just being embarassed by all the Mando wanking, if not for the fact that he is currently at the heart of it. It would almost be amusing if you have all of these Mando wannabes who have no idea what they're talking about while Boba sits off in a corner drinking away his sorrows at the complete annihilation of his culture by jizz stained idiots and who doesn't do jack when Mr. Skywalker shows up to beat ass, citing the fact that he's not idiotic enough to go for a rematch considering the fact that he almost died last time and he didn't even engage Luke directly.

Ah well, I'm sure you'll have something good that will amuse us all.

[Fingolfin_Noldor]

Hey Poe, how about coloring the mandies, pink?

[Lord Poe]

Hey Poe, how about coloring the mandies, pink?

If Dark Moose gets a costume, I'll think about it!

[Coiler]

The other Mandos look kind of fat. Is that deliberate?

[Lord Poe]

The other Mandos look kind of fat. Is that deliberate?

Well, they don't have pot bellies or anything. Its just the armor!