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I'm no firearms expert, but wouldn't a surface weak enough to have a .22 fired from a handgun go through and kill someone on the other side be easy to break through by normal means?
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In 2005, all (the CDC data doesn't separate handgun from long gun use) firearm suicides in the US totaled 17,002 for a rate of 5.73 per 100k.

So if that 24,000 number is accurate for recent data, it has to include suicides.
Though from the 70's to the early 90's, the actual homicide number did hit 24k, and the highest rate recorded in modern times was 1980's 10.2 per 100k.

The 2005 rate was 5.6

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If that video was made using figures from 1995 or later, it's certainly lumping suicides in.
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Darth Wong wrote:It's not out of line. In 2001, total firearms deaths were almost 30,000 according to http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUT ... NSTAT.html (it was one of the few sources I could find which was not obviously politically charged).
The CDC's WISQARS database is a good source.
Though like the one you posted it doesn't separate handgun deaths from long gun deaths.

The FBI's Uniform Crime Reports does separate them and IIRC, the trend is about 65-70% of all gun homicides are handgun homicides.
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Thanks for the figures, Mike and Glocksman.
pucky18 wrote:I'm no firearms expert, but wouldn't a surface weak enough to have a .22 fired from a handgun go through and kill someone on the other side be easy to break through by normal means?
Absolutely. There was some brief footage of the place on CNN, it looked like one of those portable, prefab "triple wide" trailer-trash homes, which don't have very thick surfaces.
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Zixinus wrote:I cannot possibly imagine a more stupid way to die. By her own husband to boot.
I want to know how he told his children what he did.

If this isn't a reason to place them with competent relatives, I don't know what it.
That would be assuming there were relatives more competent than this joker. Under the circumstances, it would not be prudent to assume that.
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