Internet stupidity strikes again

[Darth Raptor]

I often wonder what an acceptable male-female relationship looks like to these "rad fems" (:roll:). If indeed such a thing is possible. Maybe we should just be safe and abolish sex altogether because ZOMG someone's getting penetrated! Yes, even lesbians!

The worst thing about stupid cunts like her is that they've hijacked the feminist movement and discredited it through association, distracting everyone from the real gender issues and social injustice out there. THEY are responsible for the term "feminazi" and the ridicule her type receives. They've become such a self-caricature that not only have they made their opponents' lives easier, they've made their arguments superior.

[Junghalli]

I often wonder what an acceptable male-female relationship looks like to these "rad fems"

Oh but that's impossible in our patriarchal culture. All men are indoctrinated to be rapists, it's like trying to portray a healthy relationship between a black guy and the Grand Wizard of the KKK. Such a thing will only be possible when we've "deprogrammed" the men in our society (read: mercilessly thrashed bitter self-loathing into their brains because our sexual anxieties make us feel threatened by men enjoying sex).

[Swindle1984]

In this woman's delusional mind, the way she probably believes the world should be is thus:


Women rule everything. They make up the majority of the population and run all political, military, and social power. Men make up the minority (probably because they get aborted in favor of having female children) and aren't allowed any position of authority whatsoever. They are kept confined to their homes and not allowed to interect with other males for fear that rivalry/competition will make them aggressive or domineering. They are indoctrinated from birth to be subservient, passive, and meek. They exist as slaves and are studded out to women seeking to have children.

Lesbian sex is considered normal and homosexual relationships are encouraged. Sex with men is a necessary evil to produce children; sex with men for merely recreational purposes is severely frowned upon by society. It is only possible to have healthy relationships with other women. Artificial insemination is preferable to actual sex with men. When heterosexual activity takes place, it is always initiated by the woman and she always gets to be on top. Men aren't even allowed to look at women without permission since this means they are "undressing them with their eyes" and constitutes rape. They mustn't speak unless given permission to do so since they will naturally try to dominate all conversation if given the chance.

This, in her mind, is a good and proper world.




Someone needs to give this bitch a copy of Tarnsman of Gor so we can watch her have a total meltdown.

[Junghalli]

Nah, that would just give her the satisfaction of confirming all her prejudices.

In fairness, she's not as bad as some bigots in that she seems to believe that it's all the fault of some sort of pervasive patriarchal culture that indoctrinates men from birth to be horrible rapists rather than an inherent flaw in their nature. I get the feeling she probably believes a decent man could exist, but you'd have to raise him in total isolation from society to get one. Which is still pretty bad, but at least she's not advocating The Holocaust Part II like Valerie Solanas.

[Starglider]

I often wonder what an acceptable male-female relationship looks like to these "rad fems" (:roll:). If indeed such a thing is possible.

There are some radical feminists who claim that it isn't. There aren't that many of them but they do get a lot of attention, mostly to the detriment of feminism as a whole.

In this woman's delusional mind, the way she probably believes the world should be is thus:

Certainly there is a precedent for nutjobs like that. Sometimes it's the result of genuine abuse, sometimes it's entirely imagined. Given that plenty of crazy people fixate on aliens or satan or the government as the source of all evil for no good reason, it's hardly surprising that a few people fixate on the opposite sex with similar fear/hatred.

Interestingly there was a planetary culture set up like that in the Well World series (by Jack Chalker). As I recall it was genetically engineered that way by a band of rich artificial humans who'd been created by an evil genius as sex toys (and escaped after he was killed). There were also quite a few worlds on which humanity had been reduced to a single, hemaphroditic sex by ultra-politically-correct communists.

Personally I prefer the Culture model; anyone can set their 'desired gender' to male/female/both/neither whenever they like just by thinking about it, and their body rearranges itself to match over the next month or two. Of course all sorts of more radical, technologically-assisted body modification is available on demand too.

[Anguirus]

I posted the following:

"This is one of the funniest parodies I've ever read. Thank you!"

I'm a bastard.

[Zablorg]

Reading through that entire post, I find it hilarious that she automatically believes Wash is an abusive, dominating man entirely because he's in an interracial relationship, and this is based entirely on her own experiences regarding interracial marriages - completely ignoring everything in the show that says Wash and Zoe are in a healthy relationship.

Wait, Wash is the abusive one? If anything I'd have to say it was the other way round!

[Zablorg]

Yes, I plan to. I found Objects in Space to be horrifically racist. I can't believe that Joss was allowed to air a show that had such a terrible portrayal of Black men. I also found the portrayal of the Black man in the movie Serenity to be pretty horrifying too.

I'm noticing a pattern with her mindset. White males, you see, being the apparent majority, are allowed to be portrayed as evil scumbags from time to time. But when you have a minority, such as a woman or a black person portrayed as bad people than it stops being a message about bad people and starts being a message about bad people who are women and black.

[Swindle1984]

Yes, I plan to. I found Objects in Space to be horrifically racist. I can't believe that Joss was allowed to air a show that had such a terrible portrayal of Black men. I also found the portrayal of the Black man in the movie Serenity to be pretty horrifying too.

I'm noticing a pattern with her mindset. White males, you see, being the apparent majority, are allowed to be portrayed as evil scumbags from time to time. But when you have a minority, such as a woman or a black person portrayed as bad people than it stops being a message about bad people and starts being a message about bad people who are women and black.

Which is in and of itself, racist.

That woman has more issues than National Geographic.

[Swindle1984]

Reminds me of the Matriarchy from Sinfest.

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=9

[Zixinus]

She actually comes right out and says it in one of the comments.

I wonder if she has a deficient sex-drive or something. I mean, doesn't she think that woman can lust after a man without pressure? The very notion seems unthinkable.

The whole Wash is oppressing Zoe is laughable. Wash is genuinely afraid of getting Zoe really angry with him (see "Ms.Raynolds"), and its pretty clear that she could kill Wash with her little pinky.

e, sometimes it's entirely imagined. Given that plenty of crazy people fixate on aliens or satan or the government as the source of all evil for no good reason, it's hardly surprising that a few people fixate on the opposite sex with similar fear/hatred.

Yes, but aliens and satan are mysterious beings that hide away from the general populace while you can see the other gender daily.

[Starglider]

I wonder if she has a deficient sex-drive or something. I mean, doesn't she think that woman can lust after a man without pressure?

Well she is a lesbian, so she probably doesn't have personal experience of lusting after men. Of course that doesn't make the notion that all hetrosexual women are lying and/or deluding themselves any more sane, just marginally more understandable.

The very notion seems unthinkable.

For her it probably literally is, because she's taken it as an article of faith and refuses to consider any possibility of being wrong. Standard religious mindset, this is just a moderately unusual application of it.

Yes, but aliens and satan are mysterious beings that hide away from the general populace while you can see the other gender daily.

'Can' doesn't matter if the desire to do so is not there; it's a question of 'do they have to'. With modern lifestyles, seperatist femminists don't necessarily have to see the other gender daily. Certainly many never interact with men other than on the most superficial levels. The ones living in lesbian communes (of which there are apparently fewer now than there were in the 1970s but still some) may well go for months or years without seeing men, which of course is much of the point of said communes.

[Zablorg]

The whole Wash is oppressing Zoe is laughable. Wash is genuinely afraid of getting Zoe really angry with him (see "Ms.Raynolds"), and its pretty clear that she could kill Wash with her little pinky.

I think she's taking this dialogue a bit too far:

Wash: I am her HUSBAND, who she swore to love and obey!

Mal: She... she swore to obey?

Wash: Well, no...



Clearly, Wash really wishes Zoe was his slave.

[Ohma]

'Can' doesn't matter if the desire to do so is not there; it's a question of 'do they have to'. With modern lifestyles, seperatist femminists don't necessarily have to see the other gender daily. Certainly many never interact with men other than on the most superficial levels. The ones living in lesbian communes (of which there are apparently fewer now than there were in the 1970s but still some) may well go for months or years without seeing men, which of course is much of the point of said communes.

Indeed, but an otherwise normal person (whatever their sexual persuasion) really would have to go out of their way to cloister themselves away from people who differ from them, to get to the point where the idea of someone being attracted to a particular group that that person isn't attracted to is alien to the point of complete unbelievability.

And also I wish I could say I was surprised when idiots pop up to espouse crap like that. But apparently people are just shiny with conforming to idiotic stereotypes put forward by the same fuckers who want to discredit whatever group the idiots ostensibly represent.

[Sidewinder]

We should make _allecto_ read the works of Kazuo Koike and other Japanese artists. Once she sees a woman fall in love with THE MAN WHO RAPED HER in Samurai Executioner, she'll probably shut the hell up regarding Joss Whedon's alleged misogyny.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

All that would do is simply add further confirmation to her convictions.

[loomer]

Jesus fucking christ. I guess it never occurred to Alecto that maybe, just maybe, Inara happens to enjoy sex and has, shockingly, high standards for her actual clients? And that maybe she actually has a friendship with the crew?

Oh, and I guess women in the army, navy, whatever, don't have to call their superior officers 'sir' if male. Firefly isn't perfectly feminist, far from it, but it isn't this apparent misogynist garbage Alecto's been watching.

[Peptuck]

I also find it odd that she claims Zoe obeys Mal without question, yet in "War Stories" Mal outright says that Zoe doesn't obey any of his orders if she doesn't like them, including marrying Wash.

[Ford Prefect]

I can't believe that someone is accusing Joss Whedon of all people of misogyny. Joss Whedon. Otherwise known as 'that guy who made Buffy'. Incredible.

[Zablorg]

I think she mentioned in one of her responses to a comment that Buffy was a sex object, thus furthering her perception of Joss's misogyny.

Women aren't allowed to be attractive in popular media, you see.

[DPDarkPrimus]

I can't believe that someone is accusing Joss Whedon of all people of misogyny. Joss Whedon. Otherwise known as 'that guy who made Buffy'. Incredible.

She said that Buffy is terrible too.

[Zablorg]

When a woman is put into a position of respect, she is unrealistic.

When she is put into a situation of woe, she is a mockery of females everywhere.

Does that seem right to you?

[Shroom Man 777]

That's cause man is stronger by far than woman. Yet only woman can bear a child.

On that note, I wonder what it's like to live these people's lives. You know, an existence dominated by delusions of persecution and so on and so forth. I don't think it would be any fun... at all. What is wrong with these people?

[skies]

That's cause man is stronger by far than woman. Yet only woman can bear a child.

On that note, I wonder what it's like to live these people's lives. You know, an existence dominated by delusions of persecution and so on and so forth. I don't think it would be any fun... at all. What is wrong with these people?

In answer to your question, Darkstar!

[Swindle1984]

She's probably one of those women that bitches about sexism if a guy holds a door for her. But if he doesn't hold the door for her, well, that's obviously a sign that he's disrespectful toward women.

In her mind, everything is proof of whatever she wants it to be.