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nazi style orgy, supposedly starring FIA chief Max Mosley

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It's already a few days old, but I haven't seen it around here. For those who give a shit:

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/3003_nazi_orgy.shtml
News of the World wrote:FORMULA One motor racing chief Max Mosley is today exposed as a secret sado-masochist sex pervert.

The son of infamous British wartime fascist leader Oswald Mosley is filmed romping with five hookers at a depraved NAZI-STYLE orgy in a torture dungeon. Mosley— a friend to F1 big names like Bernie Ecclestone and Lewis Hamilton— barks ORDERS in GERMAN as he lashes girls wearing mock DEATH CAMP uniforms and enjoys being whipped until he BLEEDS.

The multi-millionaire son of Sir Oswald, who was a pal of Adolf Hitler, plays a concentration camp commandant in a FIVE-HOUR torture chamber video.

Mosley—the most powerful man in motor-racing—barks orders in German as he WHIPS two hookers dressed in striped uniforms reminiscent of AUSCHWITZ garb while girls in Nazi uniforms look on.

At one point the wrinkled 67-year-old—who publicly likes to give the impression he has put his father's evil legacy behind him—yells "she needs more of ze punishment!" while brandishing a LEATHER STRAP over a brunette's naked bottom.

Then the lashes rain down as Mosley counts them out in German: "Eins! Zwei! Drei! Vier! Fünf! Sechs!"

With each blow, the girl yelps in pain as grinning, grey-haired Mosley becomes clearly aroused. And after the beating, he makes her perform a sex act on him.

Last month the urbane president of the FIA—Formula One's governing body—hit the headlines when he announced a crackdown on racism in the sport after McLaren ace Lewis Hamilton was abused by Spanish spectators.
Hooker in mock death camp clothes is gagged

But on Friday the only ‘crackdowns' married Mosley was interested in were on bare buttocks...including his own.

Before hammering away at the girls he plays a cowering death camp inmate himself, having his GENITALS inspected and his hair searched for LICE—mocking the humiliating way Jews were treated by SS death camp guards in World War II.

Then, head bowed and tied up in chains, he is interrogated by a dominatrix before being chained up and LASHED so hard over a TORTURE BENCH that he WHIMPERS for mercy and has to have a wound dressing put on his backside.

His Jew-hating father—who had Hitler as guest of honour at his marriage—would have been proud of his warped son's command of German as he struts around looking for bottoms to whack.

But even the vile Thirties fascist—whose blackshirt thugs terrorised London's East End—might have been less impressed with the sordid company his offspring keeps.

Mosley's appointment with his hookers was at a smart £2million riverside flat on London's Chelsea Embankment at noon on Friday.

Our investigators obtained a graphic video of his sick antics.

The girls arrived first, led by the main dominatrix, a stern-faced blonde, carrying a suitcase laden with whips, chains and uniforms. Half an hour later, Mosley—married to devoted wife Jean since 1960—turned up wearing a smart overcoat and suit after making the short walk from his nearby London home.

The 6ft 2in former barrister once helped his father try to restart his political career in the Sixties with a new fascist Union Movement party. He was even a prospective parliamentary candidate himself.

But the party that got his vote on Friday was one involving violent perversion in a rigged-up basement torture dungeon.

After paying £2,500 in cash, Mosley—a good friend of F1 billionaire Bernie Ecclestone—was ordered by the head hooker to strip as she played out his sick fantasy.

"OK, undress," she snapped. "UNDRESS! You are going to be punished to be shown how we treat prisoners in our facility."

As his white Y-fronts hit the floor, the powerfully built blonde barked out her orders: "Head down. Let's see if they have been keeping you clean at the other facility.

"Hurry up! Lie face down! Don't look at me!" Mosley meekly obeyed and was chained and manacled before another blonde dominatrix, wearing only a jacket, shirt and knee-length boots, entered the room.

As another hooker ticked off points on an inspection sheet, she roughly scrutinised his head and private parts before demanding his age. "I'm 42," he whispered, lying to attract a severe beating. He also lied about his name, saying he was called Tim Barnes, so the punishment would be really painful.

He got what he wanted. "You are now going to be punished," hissed the dominatrix. "You are going to receive 12 strokes of the birch plus another three for not telling me your real age. Then you will receive six strokes of the cane."

Mosley was then bent over and strapped naked to a leather torture bench. The muscular blonde dealt him 15 savage blows. Towards the end Mosley was whimpering and gasped for breath. Reddened and bruised, he then received a further six strokes with a cane.

His flogging over, he left the room before saying, "Thank you, mistress". After having his wounds dressed, Mosley makes the transformation from masochist to sadist. Now fully clothed, he bends two blonde girls over the whipping bench, their striped concentration camp-style uniform bottoms yanked down to expose their buttocks.

He converses in German with one girl throughout the torture, loving every minute of death camp role-play, while the other girl pleads: "I don't know what you are saying, so I don't know what to do."

Oxford-educated Mosley has refused to condemn his father who was considered so dangerous he was interned during the war. He once said in an interview: "He was wonderful as a person. But I don't think my father would have made a good dictator. He talked tough but, fundamentally, he was too soft."

Whereas his son is a hard man—especially when it comes to beating girls' naked bottoms. One of the hookers is strapped into a gag to stifle her screams as Mosley lays into her backside in front of the other four girls. With a Nazi swagger, he counts each stroke in German before having sex with his ‘victim'.

A frantic orgy then begins, as a brunette hooker is strapped to a bench before a dominatrix uses a sex toy on her. Later she performs a lesbian act on one of the blondes. Red-faced and panting, Mosley looks on like a child in a sweet shop, but surrounded by bright red bottoms.

The orgy lasted almost five hours and the five hookers spent the final ten minutes laughing and drinking wine together. One said: "The girls have all had a good seeing-to!"

After the sex marathon, Mosley dressed again and had a quick pit-stop, turning down wine in favour of a cup of tea. At 5.05pm, he put on his overcoat and disappeared into the blustery afternoon to resume his other life as Max the respectable motor-racing mogul who will be officiating at the next Formula One Grand Prix in Bahrain next weekend.

It was his wife of 48 years, Jean, who introduced him to his love of motorsport. After meeting him at a fascist Union Movement rally she took him to his first race meeting to watch British ace Stirling Moss.

On choosing the grand prix world—a decision his father opposed as "dangerous and unwise"—over politics, Mosley said: "It was an escape from the political arguments. I got fed up. Nobody knew me in racing, though in Germany and Austria people used to sidle up and whisper, ‘Your father vaz a great man'."

In 2005, Mosley—who has two children, Alexander, 37, and 35-year-old Patrick—was made a Chevalier de la Légion d'Honneur, one of the highest decorations in France, for his services to motor sport. In the late 1970s, he became the official legal adviser to the Formula One Constructors Association (FOCA)—the body that represents the teams.

With his sharp legal mind and devotion to the sport, he soon rose to the top and was first elected president of the Federation Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) in 1993.

Speaking of his role in the FIA and his friendship with Bernie Ecclestone, he once said: "My job as president of the Federation Internationale de l'Automobile isn't paid. But I've done business with Bernie outside Formula One. In property mainly.

"Money doesn't turn me on and I like to think I can leave whenever I want."

Money doesn't have to turn him on—he's already rich. A multi-millionaire, he has a base in Monaco and a £3 million home in London's fashionable Chelsea.
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As well as inheriting from his father and mother—society beauty and Nazi sympathiser Diana Mitford—he made a fortune selling his shares in March Engineering in 1977.

But the shadow of his Nazi father is always in the background. Mosley Jnr once claimed his father—who died in 1980—disliked Hitler, thinking him "over the top", but he admitted Oswald admired Italian dictator Benito Mussolini.

He said of his mother, who died in 2003: "It was true she liked Hitler. Apparently he was an enormously attractive personality."

Now Mosley has shown his true colours too—and brought a new kind of shame on his already tarnished family name.

Evil father was a Hitler wannabe

He rallied his blackshirt army of fascists against Jews and Communists. His famous march through London's East End—an area heavily populated by Jews—sparked the infamous Battle of Cable Street in 1936.

Hitler admired him so much he was guest of honour at his wedding to society beauty Diana Mitford, held at the Berlin home of evil Nazi chief Joseph Goebbels.

Max's aunt Unity Mitford was also a devoted Nazi. After Britain declared war on Germany in 1939, she sent a farewell letter to Hitler and shot herself in the head with the pearl-handled pistol the German leader had given her as a gift. She died of her injuries several years later.
Literally hundreds of comments are in my head right now, but somehow I doubt any of them would be appropriate, or even sufficent.
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If that really was him, then he is one sick fuck.

Still, I wonder what legal actions can be taken against him? If he doesn't run away to Monaco that is.

Also, are there any other reports if that was actually true?
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News Of the World isn't the most...reliable of sources (piece of shit tabloid rag), but considering who his father was....first impressions sure as hellfire are not good.

Somewhat surprisingly, I've not even heard anything of this until now.
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I agree, but I've seen some followups on Timesonline and other news portals. You can even find the recording on the net and judge for yourself.

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I might be mistaken, but I really don't see anything wrong. He's got a strange fetish, but the worst thing I see coming out of this is that he's cheating on his wife. Everyone consented, no?
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Dude. He's an ex-member of a fascist party creating bizarro sexual scenes based on the Holocaust. I don't think cheating on your wife is really relevant to holding any type of office, but this? If I actually gave a shit about F1 I'd want him out pronto.
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Dude. He's an ex-member of a fascist party creating bizarro sexual scenes based on the Holocaust. I don't think cheating on your wife is really relevant to holding any type of office, but this? If I actually gave a shit about F1 I'd want him out pronto.
So? That was my original question. What are (or may be) the LEGAL consequences of his actions.

I doubt that anyone with even a half of their brain alive can find anything ambigious about the moral side of the story.
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He may well get the boot from his job if its proven to be true, and he can kiss his fortune good bye when his wife divorces him as well....
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thejester wrote:Dude. He's an ex-member of a fascist party creating bizarro sexual scenes based on the Holocaust. I don't think cheating on your wife is really relevant to holding any type of office, but this? If I actually gave a shit about F1 I'd want him out pronto.

I know only what the story says about the guy, but isn't it his dad who was the fascist party member?

Playing armchair psychologist, I'd say he has 'issues' with his family history and this playacting is his way of dealing with them.
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Hate to say this, but disgusting as it might be, the whole thing is just some private fantasy that turns the guy on. As long as he doesn't act on it (and hiring consenting prostitutes is hardly "acting on it"), it's no one's business what turns the guy on.

If you think about it, most sexual fantasies are highly offensive to others. A person can fantasize about rape, murder, statutory rape, unsafe sex with disease-riddled mutant goats.... and yet, as long as none of those actual acts are committed, it's all good.

Yeah, the guy has fantasies about a very sensitive subject. So? it's his private life for a reason. I could perfectly well have sexual fantasies about the mutilated remains of 9-11 victims. Shocking and disgusting as such a fantasy would be, I would have every damn right to masturbate to it if I wanted to, and let's face it, hiring hookers to act a part is just a more elaborate masturbatory session, since you're not actually doing the real deal.

What I find despicable, is how horribly biased the article is, and the sad fact that a person's private life can influence his career. And I doubt his taste for nazi-themed SM sessions has any effect on his ability to perform his duties.

But then again, the cheating on his wife is bad.
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What the FUCK is with the CAPITALIZATIONS?
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Morilore wrote:What the FUCK is with the CAPITALIZATIONS?
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His Jew-hating father—who had Hitler as guest of honour at his marriage—would have been proud of his warped son's command of German as he struts around looking for bottoms to whack.
But even the vile Thirties fascist—whose blackshirt thugs terrorised London's East End—might have been less impressed with the sordid company his offspring keeps.
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Sordid fantasies are not immoral in and of themselves, because no action is necessarily taken. However, they CAN indicate a personality issue. To take a more extreme example, if someone constantly fantasizes about sex with children, that's pretty fucking disturbing and probably indicates that there's something seriously wrong with him. Would you agree with that?

If so, then it's not out of line to think that other sexual fantasies might be used as an indicator that perhaps this is not a particularly trustworthy person, particularly when there's a personal history to go along with it. When someone refuses to condemn a famous relative who has done or said horrible things (such as this guy's Nazi father), that's usually a pretty strong indicator of his own closeted feelings. I said this about Mel Gibson years ago about his refusal to condemn his anti-Semite father and didn't get a very warm reception, but I was proven right later on.
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Yeah, just for those who don't know:The News Of The World is for those poor unfortunate soles who cannot even understand the complex and fiendishly difficult articles that are in The Sun. People don't read TNOTW. They look at the pictures.
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Blackshirts?

They cant even get that right, Mosley's lot were the Brownshirts.
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Darth Wong wrote:To take a more extreme example, if someone constantly fantasizes about sex with children, that's pretty fucking disturbing and probably indicates that there's something seriously wrong with him. Would you agree with that?
I do agree, I'm just of the opinion that as long as a person keeps those urges or ideas private (meaning, they don't hurt anyone else), they should get the benefit of the doubt, to the very least.

In fact, I think that someone with said urges, who manages to cope and restrain itself from ever acting on them, is demonstrating to be a better human being than many others.

Of course, the guy in question could perfectly be a xenophobic scumbag (not that I really know much about him), but the fact that he took measures due to the racist outbursts against Hamilton does tell me that, whatever his ideas are, he can keep them closeted enough to do his job.



The article angers me, because it feels like a bunch of school kids pointing fingers and laughing at the psychologically impaired kid because he's not "normal".
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LordOskuro wrote:The article angers me, because it feels like a bunch of school kids pointing fingers and laughing at the psychologically impaired kid because he's not "normal".
Well yeah, the article is a leering diatribe. But the general idea of treating bizarre and disturbing fantasies as totally inconsequential is questionable to me; that was my only point.
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His sex fantasies are bizarre and i feel that i have the right to call it that, but everyone has bizarre sex fantasies. Most people dont talk about it for this reason...it IS freakish and it IS something that typically diserves an "EWWW What is your fucking deal!?" I'm all for accepting people's quirks for what they are, but most of this stuff is funny in it's extremes.

I know a guy who is in to this wierd Japanese thing (goro, goru, something) about people being dismembered. Nicest guy in the world, never harmed a soul, but seeing Bridget from Guilty Gear lose a leg makes him pop a woody. I stumbled on his porn collection once and, needless to say, i felt like i'd fallen into one of those Silence of the Lamb situations. "It puts the lotion on it's skin" indeed.

As it is though this is not even closeto pedophilia. Near as i can tell all these people were well over the legal age, consenting, and even being well paid. The fact they agreed at all to being whipped implies they probably enjoy it or at least do this stuff regularly and of their own free will. If it were little girls, or something, yeah that'd be far more disturbing and of course illegal...but this...nah, really bizarre but thats all i get out of it. That and that the tabloid writers were enjoying describing it a bit too much (though doth protest to much?) and i'm tired of people losing their job or being blacklisted for having sex with consenting adults. The worst thing he did was cheat on his wife, and for all we know she was aware of this and they have some kind of "open relationship", so i'm not even sure about that at the moment.

What this DOES tell me is that humans are kinkier than i first thought. But then the goro-whatever stuff should have told me that. This means that somewhere, way back in the back of a man's mind, some tiny voice says "Shit that Ann Frank was FUCKING HAWT!" and that amuses me in it's absurdity.
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One thing I find interesting from my own experience is that fantasies can sometimes be from repression of your own sexuality in some form. Before I was "out", I had a variety of fantasies that bordered on the bizarre and now I look back thinking WTF??? Funny enough, when I came out fully and was able to express my base sexual persona, practically all of the odd sexual fetish thoughts vanished. Now my tastes remain purely vanilla. I guess practice erases the need for elaborate fantasies.
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I still refuse to believe that this is real. It's too surreal.
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KlavoHunter wrote:I still refuse to believe that this is real. It's too surreal.
The more reputable media outlets have taken it up now as well

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Max Mosley has pledged to carry on as president of the FIA, motorsport's governing body, despite allegations about his private life.

In a statement, Mosley apologised for any embarrassment caused to the organisation and its members.

But the 67-year-old added that he will open legal proceedings against those who had conducted a "covert investigation" to discredit him.

"I will not allow any of this to impede my commitment to the FIA," he said.

The News of the World carried a report on Sunday claiming Mosley had taken part in a "Nazi-style orgy in a torture dungeon".

The Briton had been advised not to travel to this weekend's Bahrain Grand Prix, with Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone saying the Bahraini royal family "would not like" his attendance in the Kingdom.

In response, Mosley sent the letter to the various presidents of the national FIA clubs, all members of the FIA senate, the World Motor Sport Council and the World Council for Mobility and the Automobile.

He wrote: "From information provided to me by an impeccable high-level source close to the UK police and security services, I understand that over the last two weeks or so, a covert investigation of my private life and background has been undertaken by a group specialising in such things, for reasons and clients as yet unknown. I have had similar but less well-sourced information from France.

"Regrettably you are now familiar with the results of this covert investigation and I am very sorry if this has embarrassed you or the club.



"Not content with publicising highly personal and private activities, which are, to say the least, embarrassing, a British tabloid newspaper published the story with the claim that there was some sort of Nazi connotation to the matter. This is entirely false.

"It is against the law in most countries to publish details of a person's private life without good reason. The publications by the News of the World are a wholly unwarranted invasion of my privacy and I intend to issue legal proceedings against the newspaper in the UK and other jurisdictions.

"I have received a very large number of messages of sympathy and support from those within the FIA and the motor sport and motoring communities generally, suggesting that my private life is not relevant to my work and that I should continue in my role. I am grateful and, with your support, intend to follow this advice.

"I shall now devote some time to those responsible for putting this into the public domain but, above all, I need to repair the damage to my immediate family who are the innocent and unsuspecting victims of this deliberate and calculated personal attack."

Mosley, the son of former British Union of Fascists leader Oswald Mosley, has been FIA president since 1993.

Mosley, who is not an employee of the FIA and whose role is unpaid, has been a prominent figure in European politics, pushing through a series of road-safety measures.

A representative of the road-car manufacturers involved in F1 said they had no comment at this stage.

F1 teams have no direct influence on Mosley's position - he is elected by the FIA membership of national automobile clubs and motorsport bodies and his latest four-year term does not expire until October 2009.

The body that can bring direct pressure on to Mosley is the FIA senate, which is made up of senior representatives of the national automobile and sporting clubs.

Below that are two FIA world councils, one representing the automotive industry, and one from the sporting side.

A spokeswoman for the Royal Automobile Club, Britain's representative on the world council, said the organisation had no comment.

"These are allegations only and we wouldn't comment on rumour and speculation - and certainly not on people's private lives," she said.

BBC 5 Live motor racing commentator David Croft said he understood the world council had given Mosley its full backing and members had offered their personal support.

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It would be quite a thing if morons used the fact that he had a Nazi orgy as an argument against those road-safety measures he's pushing.
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:It would be quite a thing if morons used the fact that he had a Nazi orgy as an argument against those road-safety measures he's pushing.
On the other hand, it would be the first time that the derisive reactionary term "Safety Nazi" was actually appropriate.
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Dartzap wrote:So..yeah, it probably did happen.....
If it did, it certainly speaks to Mosley's character, which makes him look like an asshole on many levels, but it in fact has nothing to do with how he does his job. I refer you the thread on this forum about the former Finnish Foreign Minister Ilkka Kanerva. He got fired for a course of events which was nowhere near as raunchy as this, but the main difference there was that he abused his official position as part of it. From what the articles say, Mosley has not done that. So, while despicable in many of its aspects, this is essentially a private matter. So far.
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Dartzap wrote:The more reputable media outlets have taken it up now as well

So this ISN'T a tasteless April Fool's joke. :(





Well, really, whatever people want to do in their bedroom, performed between consenting adults, is just fine, and really should stay there.
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Glocksman wrote:
thejester wrote:Dude. He's an ex-member of a fascist party creating bizarro sexual scenes based on the Holocaust. I don't think cheating on your wife is really relevant to holding any type of office, but this? If I actually gave a shit about F1 I'd want him out pronto.

I know only what the story says about the guy, but isn't it his dad who was the fascist party member?

Playing armchair psychologist, I'd say he has 'issues' with his family history and this playacting is his way of dealing with them.
If you read about a third of the way down, it says he was involved with his Dad's career post WW2 (IIRC in The Age it said he was actually arrested at one of Oswald's rallies) and was even considering running for office in the party.

He's not in public office and his actual position is running a sport that exists soley to line billionare's pockets....but still, that is pretty messed up if true.
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