Big Suprise-Clones not exact Clones

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-01-22 09:51am

In Pets anyway
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst ... one22.html

COLLEGE STATION, Texas--Rainbow the cat is a typical calico with splotches of brown, tan and gold on white. Cc, her clone, has a striped gray coat over white.

Rainbow is reserved. Cc is curious and playful.

Rainbow is chunky. Cc is sleek.

Wayne Pacelle of the Humane Society might be inclined to say: I told you so. But then, so would cc's creators at Texas A&M University.

Sure, you can clone your favorite cat. But the copy will not necessarily act or even look like the original.

Cc (for carbon copy) is just over a year old. Her birth Dec. 22, 2001, was big news when it was announced last February because it was the first time a household pet had been cloned. Previous mammal clones were barnyard animals like cows and goats.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-01-22 09:56am

Depending on a variety of factors the clones can come out totally different or quite alike. It is a given that behavious will not be near the same since environment and upbringing affects that mainly, but diet and exercise etc. can alter the way in which the animal grows and develops.

That or the scientists failed to see any genetic faults in the clone embryo.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-01-22 12:11pm

I thought it was fascinating to learn that conditions in the womb seem to determine the hair color of a cat.

I hope more articles like this are published. Too many people believe a clone will be the same as their lost pet.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-22 03:05pm

TrailerParkJawa wrote:I thought it was fascinating to learn that conditions in the womb seem to determine the hair color of a cat.

I hope more articles like this are published. Too many people believe a clone will be the same as their lost pet.

And even more think you can clone a human and they'll have the exact same personality. Some people even think they'll rapidly grow to be the same age as who they where cloned from.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-01-22 08:26pm

Sea Skimmer wrote: And even more think you can clone a human and they'll have the exact same personality. Some people even think they'll rapidly grow to be the same age as who they where cloned from.

Yeah, Im getting kinda tired of hearing people say how bad it would be to clone Hitler or some other such person.

It is almost as bad, but not quite as the people who freeze their heads thinking someone is gonna give shit about them in the future, thaw them, and reanimate them.

Post by **weemadando** » 2003-01-22 09:15pm

TrailerParkJawa wrote: It is almost as bad, but not quite as the people who freeze their heads thinking someone is gonna give shit about them in the future, thaw them, and reanimate them.

Hey don't you watch Futurama?

"Earth President Richard Nixon!"

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2003-01-22 09:25pm

Don't forget Henry Kissenger! lol

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-22 09:26pm

Damn!

-crosses 'Cloning' and 'Cyrogenic Freezing' off 'possible methods of reincarnation'-

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2003-01-22 09:31pm

Heh, but you still wouldn't be "you." You would be dead and so would your sentience. Unless you develop TA-like mind paterning...which brings to question whether or not you would put your mind into a computer so that you could live forever....I dunno...what would happen if my mind were just copied and my sentience just disappeared? I don't think I could risk that, because I don't think there is any way of proving that one's sentience would remain inside the computer. The copy of the mind would remember everything from the moment of being put into a computer, so how could scientists prove that it's really my sentience and not a new one? Not that'd I ever live to see this technology anyway, lol.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-01-22 09:31pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Depending on a variety of factors the clones can come out totally different or quite alike. It is a given that behavious will not be near the same since environment and upbringing affects that mainly, but diet and exercise etc. can alter the way in which the animal grows and develops.

That or the scientists failed to see any genetic faults in the clone embryo.

That, and the color of a cat depends on which X chromosome becomes expressed. One wll condense into an inactive Barr Body, the other will be expressed.

Which chromosome forms the Barr Body and which one doesn't appears to occur randomly.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2003-01-22 10:51pm

does that mean if I cloned myself, I wouldnt have an ambitious heir ready to be groomed?