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Darth Wong wrote:
Warsie wrote:hahaha cool. Why the hell do everyone want to beat up emo kids? Please don't tell me it's that they're whiny and the other stereotypes.
Because they think they have such terrible problems when they generally have lives that, in every observable way, seem fine.
Well, until now, anyway. Now they actually have something to be upset about.

I hate to see what will happen now that emo kids are actually oppressed. I also wonder if there will be a spat of suicides following these riots/beatings/whatever. Are most emo kids actually depressed, or is it an act?
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Actually, I suspect that if emo kids were actually oppressed in a material way, they might gain some perspective on their imagined problems and realize how full of shit they were before.
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The last thing people should do to emo is to beat them up.

Instead they should convince them that life isn't that bad. Most people can't see that though. And worse is how some people seems to hate emos who has REAL reason to be emotional, like the loss of your entire family and etc.

Somehow, to them people have no right to be emotional at all and must be happy no matter what happens. Bastards, those people...
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ray245 wrote:The last thing people should do to emo is to beat them up.
Once again, ray decides he needs to grace us with his presence and ignorance of the topic at hand.
Instead they should convince them that life isn't that bad. Most people can't see that though. And worse is how some people seems to hate emos who has REAL reason to be emotional, like the loss of your entire family and etc.
Oh please. Any person who has any real reason to be that damned depressed, doesn't have the money to afford five pairs of clothes from hot topic every week. Emo's don't really have that much to be depressed about, we're talking about upper middle-class kids who are depressed because mommy and daddy wouldn't buy them a new 100" HDTV or did something so heinous as to say they can't buy a GTA game. :roll:
Somehow, to them people have no right to be emotional at all and must be happy no matter what happens. Bastards, those people...
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General Schatten wrote:
ray245 wrote:The last thing people should do to emo is to beat them up.
Once again, ray decides he needs to grace us with his presence and ignorance of the topic at hand.
Oh please. Any person who has any real reason to be that damned depressed, doesn't have the money to afford five pairs of clothes from hot topic every week. Emo's don't really have that much to be depressed about, we're talking about upper middle-class kids who are depressed because mommy and daddy wouldn't buy them a new 100" HDTV or did something so heinous as to say they can't buy a GTA game. :roll:
Do you have any clue what you're talking about? Any?
I'm talking about people who really lose something important like a family member dying or something...


Those REALLY depressing stuff...
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ray245 wrote:I'm talking about people who really lose something important like a family member dying or something...


Those REALLY depressing stuff...
:roll: Do you really know what the emo culture is?
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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
ray245 wrote:I'm talking about people who really lose something important like a family member dying or something...


Those REALLY depressing stuff...
:roll: Do you really know what the emo culture is?
I know, I'm talking about people who are not part of the emo culture, and is just feeling very emotional or feeling very down.

Because some people don't care if the person have just lost someone dear to them. As long as the person is feeling depressed, they start laughing or mock him for being emo. Laughing at people who got a good reason to be emo.
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Damn lack of edit button...

I mean good reason to feel depressed.
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ray245 wrote:Because some people don't care if the person have just lost someone dear to them. As long as the person is feeling depressed, they start laughing or mock him for being emo. Laughing at people who got a good reason to be emo.
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If you have been reading this fucking thread, it refers not to people with a real good reason to be "emo" about, but rather referring to people who go emo who feel "emotional, sensitive, shy, introverted, or angsty" as per wikipedia. The latter of whom even create a fad no too different from the Goths. In other words, it's a bunch of punks with low self-confidence, going all depressed as if the weight of the world is on them, or against them whichever will make them feel worse.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and presume that, since Ray mentioned he was from another country (cant recall where) he probably has no idea what, precisely, an emo is and just assumes that emo logically means "emotional". Observing American culture and western culture from the outside, he could be under the mistaken impression that people over here (and in Mexico, it aparently) simply dislike anyone who is overly emotional. In a sense i think he means that all these people want is the right to be sad, and we should not mock them.

I think.


Of course that's bull, no offense Ray. Emos are at best a contemptable, visible example of how society is degenerating into unapologetic loserdom...at best. At worst they're snotty, self-righteous little rich white kids who piss off people like me who actually HAVE a reason to be fucking depressed and yet manage still to hold a job, have a girlfriend, live like a normal human being etc etc. All those things people do when they dont have the money and time to be emos.
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Emos are kinda like wiggers, in that they are generally middle class suburbanites railing against the world for their horrible, horrible pampered suburban lives.
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The last thing people should do to emo is to beat them up.
While not the what you meant, I agree with this statement and just because of pacifism. Give the movement some oppression and they will be EVEN MORE popular.
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Darth Yoshi:

Yeah 'cept most Wiggers i know are actually, to me anyway, fairly nice and approachable (i guess they bother people who dislike urban culture more, perhaps) where as most emos bring my piss to a boil.

Though again, i think it's because i actually have real, very real, reasons to be depressed all the time myself but i still manage to remain optimistic and hold a job and have a life etc etc and emos have little or no problems at all and pretend they do. Or to give a more obvious example...imagine how you'd feel if you were blind and still manage to live a (comparitively) normal life, and you met people who pretend to be blind and act helpless because of it, because they think that's fashionable.
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ray245 wrote:Damn lack of edit button...

I mean good reason to feel depressed.
People who are really depressed tend to try and hide it in public. Emos wear it on their sleeves because it's a fashion statement.
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Amen, Mike. I'm not particularly shy about informing people of my depression if it's in context, but the last thing I want to do is show the weakness of being overtly depressed in front of people. Like a lot of sufferers I know, the response I get when I tell someone is usually "I'd never have known."

It infuriates me when someone acts that way in public, because I know almost immediately that they're bullshitters, and I'm offended by it.
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Most "Emo's" aren't even depressed.

They are just following a fashion trend.

It's no more bullshit than any other fashion trend, like acting "gangsta" or being a "chav".

And frankly anyone who gets angered by someone for the way they dress needs to grow the fuck up.
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To add to that : -

I doubt the people Zixinus is complaining about are even Emo's.

They are probably "scenesters" similar fashion sense, but essentially the modern punks.
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Zac Naloen wrote:Most "Emo's" aren't even depressed.

They are just following a fashion trend.

It's no more bullshit than any other fashion trend, like acting "gangsta" or being a "chav".

And frankly anyone who gets angered by someone for the way they dress needs to grow the fuck up.
Don't be a retard. All of those fashion trends are more than just clothing choices. They are a deliberate attempt to identify with a recognizable social group which, itself, has deliberately promoted a public image for certain behavioural tendencies.

Take "gangsta" for example; it's not just clothing and you know it. People who dress that way want to look intimidating and identify themselves with ghetto thugs. That doesn't mean they deserve to get beaten to a bloody pulp, but it's more than mere fashion. They're trying to say something.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Zac Naloen wrote:Most "Emo's" aren't even depressed.

They are just following a fashion trend.

It's no more bullshit than any other fashion trend, like acting "gangsta" or being a "chav".

And frankly anyone who gets angered by someone for the way they dress needs to grow the fuck up.
Don't be a retard. All of those fashion trends are more than just clothing choices. They are a deliberate attempt to identify with a recognizable social group which, itself, has deliberately promoted a public image for certain behavioural tendencies.

Take "gangsta" for example; it's not just clothing and you know it. People who dress that way want to look intimidating and identify themselves with ghetto thugs. That doesn't mean they deserve to get beaten to a bloody pulp, but it's more than mere fashion. They're trying to say something.

I've highlighted and italicised the relevant parts, would you like to apologise?

The word of my final paragraph is perhaps not the best, but nothing in my post suggests I don't understand this.
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Sorry Zac, you said that it was no more bullshit than any other fashion trend.

That means you think that all fashion trends are just as valid, or in other words just clothing choices. That is kind of bullshit... high maintainence gucci girl is certainly far more a pain in the ass than nerd with pocket protector (assuming the nerd is trying to make a statement and isn't just fashion aware.) The former is saying I cost a lot of money and I wear clothes that cost a shitload, the latter is saying I'm good at math.
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brianeyci wrote:Sorry Zac, you said that it was no more bullshit than any other fashion trend.

That means you think that all fashion trends are just as valid, or in other words just clothing choices.
actually what i am saying is that fashion is more than just your clothing choices and that certain behaviours can become fashionable as well. All these horrible fashions get panned and rightly so, but anyone who feels the need to beat up someone based on there preconceptions of a particular group (i.e the way they dress) offer to take a long hard look at themselves.
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To be honest, I'll give scenesters (but not emos) the benefit of the doubt as far as character is concerned. Emos, like 'gangstas' 'chavs' and 'punks', are trying to act in a certain fashion that is much more than just the clothes they wear. Scenesters, on the other hand, are pretty much 'I think I look sexy in mismatched plaid, fishnet, and randomly bleached patches of hair' and nothing more. There's no 'culture' attached to it other than a vague liberal-artsy-type stigma.
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Zac Naloen wrote:I've highlighted and italicised the relevant parts, would you like to apologise?
No, fucktard. You're still claiming that people have no right to judge people based on this fashion; are you saying that people have no right to judge others on BEHAVIOUR, then? What the fuck CAN we judge people on?
The word of my final paragraph is perhaps not the best, but nothing in my post suggests I don't understand this.
Either you don't understand it or you're a raving idiot who thinks no one should be judged on their behaviour, which would be totally retarded.
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Wong, here is what I am saying. 90% of what people in this thread call Emo's AREN'T Emo's.

They are people following a fashion trend made popular by a music scene, most of them are just the modern version of punks. Hence why they are generally called Scenesters. They follow the "scene".

"Gangta's" dress like their heroes in the Gangsta rap scene and "Chavs" dress like their heroes who play football (or in the female case, their wives).

Notice the the quotations? Those are there because I'm not talking about actual Gangsta's and actual Chavs. They lead shitty lives intimidating people and shoplifting. There is a whole seperate group of people that get lumped in with these idiots who are guilty of nothing more than buying clothes from the same shops their friends do.

Emo's are a subculture of utterly small annoying and self-absorbed people who deserve most of the derision they get. What they don't deserve is threats of violence from internet tough guys who think it makes them cool to pick on the silly little Emo.



No, fucktard. You're still claiming that people have no right to judge people based on this fashion; are you saying that people have no right to judge others on BEHAVIOUR, then? What the fuck CAN we judge people on?
At no point have I said you cannot judge them. In fact here : -
All these horrible fashions get panned and rightly so,
I state the complete opposite. So fuck off.
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General Schatten wrote:This is one of the signs of the Emo Messiah, AKA the legitimate emo, always depressed and always has a legitimate reason to be so, an emo that people actually feel sorry for!
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