Can anyone in here comprehend these two statements?

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Re: Can anyone in here comprehend these two statements?

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Sonic_The_Hedgehog wrote:It takes a little bit of logic, which apparently some people don't have.


The below statement is false.
The Above statement is true.


That is a paradox, right?

Because if 1 is true then 2 is false an so on. I showed somebody that while discussing ways to survive a robot apocalypse (give them an illogical or paradoxical statement, and unless certain programming is done it should fail)

Also I called somebody as useless as a DVD rewinder. And they did not get it. I shit you not, they said "What if I want to rewind my DVD?" not realizing I meant a device that rewinds DVDs and doesn't play them.
If you're faced with a highly intelligent killbot, you may be thinking that defense in your head. You might even get as far as:

"Theeaaaaaaaarrgh!" as you go down in a hail of 6.8mm bullets, having failed to realize that if you'd only thought to use radio and had broadcast the correct IFF code some fifteen microseconds into your encounter with the killbot, all of this might've been avoided.

Seriously, as has been mentioned repeatedly in this thread; what you postulate as a defense against robots is just stupid.
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Re: Can anyone in here comprehend these two statements?

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GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:Seriously, as has been mentioned repeatedly in this thread; what you postulate as a defense against robots is just stupid.
Shhh! Some of us are counting on the great robot uprising to clean up the human gene pool! :P
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Ryushikaze wrote:
Xeriar wrote:
Darth Wong wrote: Actually, Futurama was parodying the original Star Trek. Unfortunately, Captain Kirk repeatedly used this method in order to disable hostile robots.
Where did Kirk disable a robot through a paradox?

There was that entity that worked a bit like a computer virus, got mostly shut down by the Enterprise's computers putting calculating pi at realtime priority. That's fine for shutting down a virus so that something can be done about it, in certain instances.

NOMAD was merely performing its function after it discovered that it was imperfect.

M-5 was genuinely remorseful for what it had done.
I THINK he might be referring to the Harry Mudd episode in which the robots take over 'for man's own good', but that wasn't taking advantage of paradoxes, but instead acting in ways that the robots, who were programmed to attempt to analyze and react to human wants and needs, were not adequately programmed to deal with. Had the robots had better programming, they would have simply determined "Ah, these people are insane. Handle with caution" and it would have failed.
Yes, the episode in question is I, Mudd (which is obviously a play on I, Robot). And in addition to the humans acting strangely to confuse the robots, Harry does use the line, "Everything I say is a lie."

GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:Seriously, as has been mentioned repeatedly in this thread; what you postulate as a defense against robots is just stupid.
You big meanie!
Time makes more converts than reason. -- Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776
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