Doctor Who S30E01: Partners In Crime [Spoilers]

[Rye]

Due to not seeing close encounters for a good 15 years, I had totally forgotten what the ship looked like. Looking at this pic, I'll retract what I said about it, it's pretty clear the Who and Walker ships are both enormous homages to it.

[Straha]

Eh.

2/5.


Tate wasn't as bad as I thought she was going to be (maybe it was just the script in the Runaway Bride.) But the entire story seemed to descend into "SONIC SCREWDRIVER!" "SONIC PEN!" "SONIC SCREWDRIVER!" "SONIC PEN!" "SONIC SCREWDRIVER!" "SONIC PENIS!" "SONIC SCREW-... wait... did you say Sonic Penis?" "OOOOOH YEAH!"

I'm getting sick of the bloody thing. It makes me pine for Visitor.

[Lord Woodlouse]

Eh.

2/5.


Tate wasn't as bad as I thought she was going to be (maybe it was just the script in the Runaway Bride.) But the entire story seemed to descend into "SONIC SCREWDRIVER!" "SONIC PEN!" "SONIC SCREWDRIVER!" "SONIC PEN!" "SONIC SCREWDRIVER!" "SONIC PENIS!" "SONIC SCREW-... wait... did you say Sonic Penis?" "OOOOOH YEAH!"

I'm getting sick of the bloody thing. It makes me pine for Visitor.

Eh? That was about 5 minutes of the story, tops.

[Chardok]

TGhe Ridiculous slapstick and CARTOON SOUND EFFECTS (Complete with *hover* OMFG I'M IN THE AIR! *fall* *Pennywhistle SPLAT*) Ruined it for me. But the Adipose were stupid cute.

[Hillary]

What the buggery bollocks was that all about? Cuddly Ewoks, sorry fat creatures? Bernard Cribbins? The fucking incidental music playing ALL THE FUCKING TIME, as if this was a 1940s Hollywood film ("We're off to see the Doctor, the wonderful Doctor of Gallifrey")

The ONLY redeeming feature of the whole sorry mess was the vanishing Rose Tyler.

I rate this the worst episode since the 1980s. That whole waving at Cribbins from the TARDIS doorway was so horribly cheesy. Tate turning into her stock characters every time she has to show an extreme emotion sucks big time (the bit in the TARDIS doorway with the appallingly protracted play on the word "mate" being the most obvious example).

At least Martha wasn't in it.

It comes to something when Torchwood outdoes Dr Who.

Dreadful

[Lord Woodlouse]

What the buggery bollocks was that all about? Cuddly Ewoks, sorry fat creatures? Bernard Cribbins? The fucking incidental music playing ALL THE FUCKING TIME, as if this was a 1940s Hollywood film ("We're off to see the Doctor, the wonderful Doctor of Gallifrey")

The ONLY redeeming feature of the whole sorry mess was the vanishing Rose Tyler.

I rate this the worst episode since the 1980s. That whole waving at Cribbins from the TARDIS doorway was so horribly cheesy. Tate turning into her stock characters every time she has to show an extreme emotion sucks big time (the bit in the TARDIS doorway with the appallingly protracted play on the word "mate" being the most obvious example).

At least Martha wasn't in it.

It comes to something when Torchwood outdoes Dr Who.

Dreadful

You're fired.

Sorry, it had some silly comic elements, but at the end of the day it was surprisingly good with the character elements. The very beautiful scene with the Doctor all alone, for instance. If you think Torchwood is better on account of this, I think you're crazy.

It's daft, but it's no more extraordinarily daft than the other season starters.

[Crazedwraith]

It started off OK, with the Doctor's and Donna's actions parrelling each other but soon after that it just descended into low farce and technobabble.

Plus he causally threw away a Sonic pen. Bastard. You think he'd keep it so it didn't fall into someone inappropriate's hands.

I don't really like Tate, the whole pantomime scene was just painfully dragged out.

No where near as good as Smith & Jones. Probably equal with New Earth. I don't recall too much of Rose but it respawned Doctor Who, itself and had Eccleston rather than Tennant os it gets an automatic +1 bonus.

Rose was a wtf but it appears she's transmitting holograms for another dimension so maybe she can start doing to the doctor's trick and making him go where she wants subconsciously. She looked very bitter. Maybe she's going to be a villian wanting revenge on the doctor for abandoning her. Or something.

[Zac Naloen]

Rose was a wtf but it appears she's transmitting holograms for another dimension so maybe she can start doing to the doctor's trick and making him go where she wants subconsciously. She looked very bitter. Maybe she's going to be a villian wanting revenge on the doctor for abandoning her. Or something.

That would be harsh as hell considering he didn't abandon her...

[Crazedwraith]

Rose was a wtf but it appears she's transmitting holograms for another dimension so maybe she can start doing to the doctor's trick and making him go where she wants subconsciously. She looked very bitter. Maybe she's going to be a villian wanting revenge on the doctor for abandoning her. Or something.

That would be harsh as hell considering he didn't abandon her...

Well I hope they don't just met up for whatever reason and fall back into their season 2 buddy-buddy relationship. Also a serious case of Companion Envy is needed ala "School Reunion" especially if Martha is also present by that point.

[NecronLord]

Some people seem to be forgetting that this is a 'family' show. It's target audience are children. Yeah, there's lots of silly things in the series, because children laugh at and like silly things.

[NecronLord]

Plus he causally threw away a Sonic pen. Bastard. You think he'd keep it so it didn't fall into someone inappropriate's hands.

Let's be entirely fair. He has a shitload of (probably superior) screwdrivers at home, and the things are almost impossible to use unless you know what you're doing... But there is absolutely no way they can used to hurt an organic being (or at least, the sonic screwdriver version) Dalek Sec and the doctor told us that. What're the chances someone will find it in the bin and or landfill, learn how to use it, and find some way of applying it harmfully?

Though I have wanted to see the Doctor running around removing the space guns from a failed invasion some time.

[Chardok]

I'm going to have to go Stark on all those that liked it. It was poo, and the only redeeming thing about it is that The Adipose were cute. If you thought this episode was good, you're probably the type of person who enjoys The Rocky Horror Picture Show; that is to say, the kind of person who deserves to be punched in the dick.

[Lord Woodlouse]

I'm going to have to go Stark on all those that liked it. It was poo, and the only redeeming thing about it is that The Adipose were cute. If you thought this episode was good, you're probably the type of person who enjoys The Rocky Horror Picture Show; that is to say, the kind of person who deserves to be punched in the dick.

Ironically enough, Stark didn't seem to mind it.

[Chardok]

I'm going to have to go Stark on all those that liked it. It was poo, and the only redeeming thing about it is that The Adipose were cute. If you thought this episode was good, you're probably the type of person who enjoys The Rocky Horror Picture Show; that is to say, the kind of person who deserves to be punched in the dick.

Ironically enough, Stark didn't seem to mind it.

Oh, he thought it was poo, trust me. He said as much in the chat before we laid in to Tucker for deleting Blink because he "didn't understand it after 20 minutes"

[Admiral Valdemar]

Let's be entirely fair. He has a shitload of (probably superior) screwdrivers at home, and the things are almost impossible to use unless you know what you're doing... But there is absolutely no way they can used to hurt an organic being (or at least, the sonic screwdriver version) Dalek Sec and the doctor told us that. What're the chances someone will find it in the bin and or landfill, learn how to use it, and find some way of applying it harmfully?

Point it at someone and press the button? I'm thinking being able to cut through steel cables means a human skull has little chance, so unless the device is programmed to recognise what it's aimed at and has safeguards, I think it can be safely said they have the potential for harm built in.

[NecronLord]

Point it at someone and press the button? I'm thinking being able to cut through steel cables means a human skull has little chance, so unless the device is programmed to recognise what it's aimed at and has safeguards, I think it can be safely said they have the potential for harm built in.

I would assume it 'resonates' or some stupid crap like that ("I'm trying to resonate concrete" and so on) rather than just directly applying X joules to the target. But yes. Harmless until it's proven to operate substantially different from the sonic screwdriver (which has also cut things on a number of occasions, and done all sorts of freaky crap; indeed, it can also selectively make certain sub-sapient robots explode, but is apparently no threat to humans; never mind a number of books that have it blowing holes in concrete and a literal interpretation of Doomsday, which would suggest that it can blow reinforced steel doors in...), which is again and again stated to be harmless by knowledgable people with no reason to lie.

[Stark]

Dude, it makes new barbed wire. It's a little more than 'sonic'. I'd love to hear how 'sonic' allows you to instantly remove rectangular sections of wall and then later replace them instantly with no visible seams, too. SOUND WAVEZ!

Ironically enough, Stark didn't seem to mind it.

Ha ha! Who's the hater NOW!

[mr friendly guy]

Dude, it makes new barbed wire. It's a little more than 'sonic'. I'd love to hear how 'sonic' allows you to instantly remove rectangular sections of wall and then later replace them instantly with no visible seams, too. SOUND WAVEZ!

I think its pretty obvious the "sonic" part of the sonic screwdriver was only one of its multiple functions, just as a swiss army knife can do more than just being a knife (for the record my one also has a bottle opener function).

[Stark]

Hence the statement 'it's a little more than 'sonic'', since I'm arguing with NL who is saying that is uses sonics to do everything. He also thinks it blows up doors instead of triggering explosives, but hey.

[mr friendly guy]

In regards to the sonic pen, didn't the doctor cannabalise part of it along with Donna's "free gift" capsule to jam the transducer signal. So by then its useless to the average joe. Granted if Torchwood got hold of it, they would most probably try to copy the technology, but the chances of them finding it are slim.

[NecronLord]

Dude, it makes new barbed wire. It's a little more than 'sonic'.

What part of 'some stupid crap like that' didn't you get? It's obviously some weird ass clarketech magic wand that by act of plot doesn't hurt humans or other intelligent beings.It can make robot christmas trees explode, and, when plugged into speakers, kill robot santas, but it can't do that to the (presumably more primative, given that they were made on modern earth) Cybusmen, because the Doctor does not carry weapons. I've not seen Matron Whatserface's device have any notable use as a deadly weapon, either, and just because it can slice some steel cables (the screwdriver can do so too, and make things explode, and kill them with sound...) hardly proves it is a dangerous weapon. It might be, or it might be a harmless alien utility device she picked up in Space Nanny School.

He also thinks it blows up doors instead of triggering explosives, but hey.

If you had been paying attention you would recall that my exact words were 'A literal reading of Doomsday.' As in "It is very good at opening doors" *Doctor pushes button, doors explode*. I too would assume that there's some cybermen setting up bombs outside the doors while the Doctor distracts the daleks, but that's neither depicted directly or mentioned on screen, there's no evidence to support such a claim.

[Oddysseus]

...

Rose was a wtf but it appears she's transmitting holograms for another dimension so maybe she can start doing to the doctor's trick and making him go where she wants subconsciously. She looked very bitter. Maybe she's going to be a villian wanting revenge on the doctor for abandoning her. Or something.

I wonder what she is. An interesting thing would be if the universe she is in has Time Lords and she is working with or convinced them to aid the Doctor, hense them allowing her to slip back and forth across the barrier to an end. But that is a long shot that I doubt will pan out.

Most likely her Torchwood is actually competent and she is coming across due to some great threat, as spoilers indicate is coming.


But I wonder if there is anything in the Breeder World's destruction. The Doctor being surprised by it could be for joke sake, but it would be interesting if it is a harbinger of one of the seasons threats heading at Earth. ...And what about the bees?

[NecronLord]

Most likely her Torchwood is actually competent and she is coming across due to some great threat, as spoilers indicate is coming.

Between Harriet Jones and President Don Warrington, I'd be surprised if the People's Republic of Great Britain would tolerate the same ineptitude.