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His Divine Shadow wrote:Hypocritical cowards, they make me ashamed of being of the same species as them...
Someday there'll be Newtypes, and these guys ain't gonna be one of 'em! :)
How a board thats been flaming us for months when we've done nothing to them, beyond having a different opinion, can think of us as trolls, is simply mind boggling...
And yet that's exactly how it is. I'm surprised a board-war wasn't spurred ont hsi premise alone (or maybe just an AIIF invasion) but apparently nobody wants to thicken out bad blood with them.
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Interesting
This thread really says alot. Though he does give Wong permission to post those emails now.

Some others of note:
Apples & Oranges

I'm beginning to think this guy is bipolar. That, or just a total pussey who refuses to state and stick to his views. Either works.

This one is the best if only for this quote:
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One of their favorite activitys is making fun of DITL's fan fiction. apparently they dont have the balls to insult EAS. They also seem to enjoy reiterating Wong's site
That's right, the guys who lock all threads dealing with the topic and suspend membership say we are the ones who lack balls.

Jesus Razor is fucking retarded.
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Monkeyman wrote:Heh. Yep, that's right, I'm back. Didn't think you'd see me again, did you? Please, hold your applause. As you all may have guessed, this particular topic is in the great ongoing who - is - stronger than who debate between the Star Wars universe and the Star Trek universe. As the Star Wars universe is supposed to have 200GT turbolasers and Star Trek is supposed to have something in the region of only 1 GW phaser power, you'd naturally think that Star Wars would wipe the floor with our brave boys from the Alpha Quadrant.

But what was it that a dear El - Aurian scientist of ours said in Star Trek: Generations?

"Oh do be careful, captain; that's a 50 GW forcefield. I wouldn't want to see you get hurt."

This was after Picard had walked into the thing. And IT DIDN'T KILL HIM. 50 GW of raw power, and he wasn't even knocked out. Now, from the Rabid Warsies, we are supposed to believe that our dear ENT - D has only 1 GW of phaser power. Yet, if 50 GW can't even kill a man, then how is 1 GW supposed to do significant damage to a ship's shielding?

I put it to you, my dear friends (heh) that our dear Warsie acquaintances are grievously mistaken. I would postulate that phaser power is at least 20 times greater than that of the 50 GW forcefield.

Whenever a Rabid Warsie jumps up and tells you all otherwise, swat him down with this.

See ya!!!
This guy actually thinks that we should be using the effects displayed in Star Trek as real world baselines? 50 GW is roughly the equivalent of 10 tons of TNT per second! Even if Picard was in contact with the forcefield for 1/24 of a second (the minimum observable timeframe for film), he'd have absorbed the equivalent energy of half a ton of TNT! Do Trekkies ever think before they write this shit down?

No, this dumbshit obviously assumes that any object which comes in contact with the forcefield will have energy delivered to it at the rate of 50 GW, regardless of size, which is simply absurd. More than likely, Soran was referring to the total power output of the forcefield, which had a fairly large surface area. If we assume a hemispherical shape of 50 meters high (high enough to cover the missile launcher) and a termination at an average ground level of 0, then we get a surface area of about 16 000 m^2, which means a radiative output of about 300 kW/m^2. However, we never observed Picard's clothes catching on fire when he touched the forcefield, either. Most likely, the forcefield is powered by a 50 GW generator, but delivers a repulsive force to whatever it touches, maybe accompanied by a small jolt of electricity.
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More ignorance of basic thermodynamics from dumb Trekkies: since the generator is supposedly consuming 50 GW, then it must also dump 50 GW to its environment. 50 GW is a LOT of heat, and in that small area it would most certainly be noticeable, probably lethal.

How typical of them, eh? And they have the gall to say that we are scientifically ignorant!
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Seeing as how they altered some of the posts on the threads that Ender has shown for evidence, I'm preserving an example of Razor's stupidity here.
I dont know if any of you are familiar with Mike Wong's anti-star trek site you'll know how disgusting the website is. Im a hardcore trek fan but I still enjoy the Star Wars movies. However this site is nothing more than disgusting Trek bashing and mockery. Many trek fans know about this site and Wong's arrogant attitudes. Recently Wong added a message board to his site http://www.stardestroyer.net/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=2 which is interesting insofar as you get to see how a petulant child would run such a thing. Those he does not like get posts edited and their personal information altered, and threads which refer to anything contrary to his views get closed, after he says something about not having time to update the site. Oh, yes, very impressive . . . especially when you take into account how much time he spends reading and writing in the forums.

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Are there any Trekkies out there who know what the term "ad-hominem" means?
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Darth Wong wrote:Are there any Trekkies out there who know what the term "ad-hominem" means?

Yes. It's any direct insult whatsoever. Right?






Concidering he's a lying dumbass, I doubt he cares.
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They've never named a single instance of Mike deleting a thread because it disagreed with his opinions. They just assume that they're there because Mike Wong Is A Poopie Head?.
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Sure, why not...according to them we're mindless bashers and heathens all following Wong.
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Master of Ossus wrote:Seeing as how they altered some of the posts on the threads that Ender has shown for evidence, I'm preserving an example of Razor's stupidity here.
I dont know if any of you are familiar with Mike Wong's anti-star trek site you'll know how disgusting the website is. Im a hardcore trek fan but I still enjoy the Star Wars movies. However this site is nothing more than disgusting Trek bashing and mockery. Many trek fans know about this site and Wong's arrogant attitudes. Recently Wong added a message board to his site http://www.stardestroyer.net/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=2 which is interesting insofar as you get to see how a petulant child would run such a thing. Those he does not like get posts edited and their personal information altered, and threads which refer to anything contrary to his views get closed, after he says something about not having time to update the site. Oh, yes, very impressive . . . especially when you take into account how much time he spends reading and writing in the forums.

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Incidentally, he borrowed much of the phrasing from this almost word-for-word from RSA's website. Again, this leads to the obvious question of who is the more foolish...
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I still can't believe they all agreed that a kid should get a passing mark in history class if he writes that the Bible was directly written by the Hand of God, in defiance of all the historical evidence.
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Master of Ossus wrote:Incidentally, he borrowed much of the phrasing from this almost word-for-word from RSA's website. Again, this leads to the obvious question of who is the more foolish...
... the tool or the tool who follows him?
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Darth Wong wrote:I still can't believe they all agreed that a kid should get a passing mark in history class if he writes that the Bible was directly written by the Hand of God, in defiance of all the historical evidence.
Apparently it was lost on them that this kid probably did NO studying for this class, and learned nothing in it. Think about it. If the kid had known what was actually going on, he should have written about that. Instead he fell back on the familiar knowledge of his Sunday school, ignoring everything about scholastic achievement that anyone had ever taught him. An essay written on the Bible is practically an admission that the kid hasn't studied the material presented to him, and should be failed on that basis alone.
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Darth Wong wrote:I still can't believe they all agreed that a kid should get a passing mark in history class if he writes that the Bible was directly written by the Hand of God, in defiance of all the historical evidence.
THEY WHAT?!

WHAT THE FUCK?!!

That's like saying in bio, the teacher should give a kid a passing grade in biology because he says all things existed in eden thus man lived with the dinosaurs!
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Durandal wrote:
This guy actually thinks that we should be using the effects displayed in Star Trek as real world baselines? 50 GW is roughly the equivalent of 10 tons of TNT per second! Even if Picard was in contact with the forcefield for 1/24 of a second (the minimum observable timeframe for film), he'd have absorbed the equivalent energy of half a ton of TNT! Do Trekkies ever think before they write this shit down?
Which for reference is about enough to destroy or heavily damage all the buildings on a typical city block when dropped as a 2000-pound bomb.
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Actually, that quote is a good example of the pseudoscience I'm talking about. I don't think they understand what pseudoscience is: an argument which makes no pretenses of science whatsoever is not pseudoscientific; it is unscientific. However, when an argument contains science terms like "joule" and "watt" and STILL insists on completely ignoring even the most fundamental principles of science, then it is totally pseudoscientific.

In this case, this person takes an utterly moronic interpretation of a dialogue figure and tout it as evidence without even TRYING to think of the ramifications of that interpretation. Moreover, he states it as if it's conclusive, even though he obviously hasn't put any thought into it at all. On this board, he would have been rightfully flamed for being a complete and utter idiot.
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Mr Bean wrote:Of course HDS and You are quite diffrent from each other, I think anyone who acutal met you/read your posts would confuse you with HDS
That is not what I meant. I was referring to the list on the EAS forum reposted in the other topic where "Shadow" is listed.
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Master of Ossus wrote:Seeing as how they altered some of the posts on the threads that Ender has shown for evidence, I'm preserving an example of Razor's stupidity here.
What? Which ones? link please, the shit bags
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Ender wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:Seeing as how they altered some of the posts on the threads that Ender has shown for evidence, I'm preserving an example of Razor's stupidity here.
What? Which ones? link please, the shit bags
Look here:


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It says message not found. :(
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Sr.mal wrote:It says message not found. :(
I think that's the point: They deleted it.

Ender: Stand down. You are NOT authorized to go over there and troll on their forum. SD.net will NOT sanction such action.

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Personally, I kind of like the title of " Uruk-Hai Commander" for Ender, it would mean that at least one positive change came from this mess. It also sounds pretty nifty.
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consequences wrote:Personally, I kind of like the title of " Uruk-Hai Commander" for Ender, it would mean that at least one positive change came from this mess. It also sounds pretty nifty.
Fuck, they claim I started this mess by posting there as "Troll hater" (even though that is an flat out lie), so they obviously see me as some sort of leader of the Orc hordes
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Ender wrote:
consequences wrote:Personally, I kind of like the title of " Uruk-Hai Commander" for Ender, it would mean that at least one positive change came from this mess. It also sounds pretty nifty.
Fuck, they claim I started this mess by posting there as "Troll hater" (even though that is an flat out lie), so they obviously see me as some sort of leader of the Orc hordes
The Burden of Proof is most clearly on them to demonstrate that.

Incidentally, when did they threaten you with legal action, and with what charges did they threaten to get you?
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